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Military does more than 1,000 flyovers
per year but doesn’t track cost

Washington Guardian, by Ali Durkin

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Posted By:StormCnter, 11/28/2012 5:27:59 AM

The roar. The whoosh. The cheers. Military flyovers have become a staple of American sports, from the thunderous blast of Navy F/A-18s swooping past a NASCAR race track to the stealthy appearance of the Air Force’s B-2 bomber at Major League Baseball’s All-Star game in Kansas City this past summer. In fact, the Air Force, Navy and Marines tell the Medill News Service and the Washington Guardian they scrambled aircraft for more than 1,000 flyovers at sporting events, funerals and air shows in 2011 alone, one of the first-ever accountings of the how widespread the practice has become.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mws50, 11/28/2012 6:28:41 AM     (No. 9037068)

So what...

Normal citizens get to see their tax dollars at work, it is entertaining, and it does qualify as practice for our military.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Kerryman, 11/28/2012 7:11:09 AM     (No. 9037112)

What is practiced:

Cross Country Flight and use of the US Air Traffic Control System.

Time on Target flying.

Formation flying.

All have to be practiced. We get flyovers at almost every Texas A&M home game mostly by various branches of the service including reserve units. I expect that the fans at that game personally paid for it through the same percentage of their taxes that it was to the percentage of the US Budget.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: john56, 11/28/2012 8:05:40 AM     (No. 9037161)

What amazes me is how they always pass over as the singer hits "and the home of the brave."

Ain´t like they can drive those jets around the block if he/she takes a little longer than usual.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: NYBruin, 11/28/2012 8:15:58 AM     (No. 9037185)

I love ´em!

Besides, active duty pilots need to keep their flying hours up to remain sharp. I see no harm in this.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: freightdog, 11/28/2012 8:24:16 AM     (No. 9037195)

It´s very good practice to maintain perishable skills.

Perhaps a more meaningful spending summary would be complete accounting of how much the GSA, our watchdog agency with mission to root out wasteful spending, spends on it´s various "training" events.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 11/28/2012 8:40:31 AM     (No. 9037223)

I think they´re great, love ´em, want them to continue, but I´m afraid after we go over the financial cliff come January 1 2013 we´ll be lucky to get a Civil Air Patrol Cessna 172 or a hang glider as a flyover...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MattMusson, 11/28/2012 9:25:17 AM     (No. 9037296)

I know from personal experience that the US Coast Guard air wing was hit by deep cuts the week after Obama´s re-election.

So, maybe we should be worrying about whether there will be aircraft available to mount rescues - rather than worrying about publicity flying.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: seabear, 11/28/2012 9:27:23 AM     (No. 9037302)

I watched a B2 fly over. It flew over 5 airshows that day. The fly over was classified as a bombing sortie and we were one of the "hi value" targets. It is training as well as showing the colors.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: F16 guy, 11/28/2012 10:29:56 AM     (No. 9037430)

"The squadron members will use the time in the aircraft before or after a flyover to complete some of their operational training requirements"

Flying is a perishable talent, and the only way to practice it is to FLY ! Some "flyovers" may involve no other training specifically, especially when they are a far distance from the aircraft´s home base. But, I´ve also done dog fighting sorties or low level navigation either before or after a flyover.

But formation takeoffs, formation flying, perhaps air refueling, and some "touch and go" landings afterwards, makes each flyover a training event.

BTW- these costs are miniscule compared to the fraud and waste of the US gov´t:

roughly 785,000 to 1.2 Million families are illegally receiving welfare benefits... this is costing the tax payers between $9.0 - $13.5 Billion dollars every year.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: veritas, 11/28/2012 4:03:40 PM     (No. 9038043)

1. Wait -- posters actually put these flights ahead of: a. putting Bo, the White House beard-dog, on his own plane; b. putting Mo, the White House gimme-gimme-gimme-and-national-scold, on her own jet [because she won´t wait 4 hours for stinky]; c. flying Mo, the [see above], on our 757s as her personal vacation-jets for the price of a first-class ticket; d. providing Mo, the [see above], a personal staff of at least 22 gov´t employees; e. paying Jay Carney to lie through his teeth to us every time he speaks; f. paying Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, JJ Jr., Jackson-Lee, Leahy, Dodd, Frank, Chu, Napolitano, Sebelius, etc., etc., anything; g. midnight basketball; h. tattoo removal; i. [append your peeve here as needed]?

2. Hey, these pilots will do training flights anyway; including flyovers is a good idea. #2 et. al. note the value of the flyovers. And are our military services "ever exposed," or could a little "national pride" [oops, I found the flaw!] "demonstration" actually be useful? And well-deserved?

3. Good posts, above. Thanks to those who serve[d].

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