The sequester is already written into law. It represents real cuts NOTHING should cause the GOP to touch it. I personally always thought the Payroll Tax holiday was a silly sap to Obama that resulted in zero economic growth while creating a lot of red ink. However, it was created by Obama as a poison pill and it makes great political sense for the House GOP to vote to extend it for another year as part of the same bill to extend all the Bush tax cuts another year. Once passed by the House, since it is a revenue bill, it only requires 51 Senators to approve.

I still think they should tell oblamer to give them his plan. Then when it comes up for a vote just vote "present". Let the socialists have everything that they want.

It will be painful when the economy tanks, but the socialists will be unable to realistically blame the republicans for what happens. They will try, and their "news" media allies will go along with it, but the republicans just need to remind everyone that the socialists got everything they wanted and they own it lock stock and barrel.

If there are negotiations, and oblamer and the socialists end up getting 90% of what they want, you can bet your next six months worth of paychecks that they will blame the next recession on the "obstructionists" republicans and the 10% that the socialists gave up in their "compromise".

Drunks sometimes have to hit rock bottom and feel some REAL pain before they realize that things must change. It just might have to happen on a national scale before enough numbskulls that voted for this loser realize that his socialist utopia is for the birds.

If we don´t go over the cliff. Liberals will not treat this as the time-critical dire pivotal issue that it really is. Over the cliff attached at the hip with the clowns from the left we go! That is the only way to get things done here. This is probably our last chance of changing course before it is too late and this country gets broken beyond repair. Everybody knows deep down from the heart there is only one destination for the lemming parade. Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. Welcome, to the next "teachable moment." Let´s give that no-budget fiscally irresponsible empty- suit perpetual- campaigner in chief what he wants.

Previously posted:
http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=713439

GOP will cave, forgetting the lesson of "Read my lips, no new taxes." Dems will hammer them over their weakness; they never learn and are part of the problem.

There is only one solution:
Accelerate the consequences.
Only when the full consequences have taken effect will America vomit up the Obama-Marxist hairball before it irreversibly suffocates our nation.

Go over the Fiscal Cliff to be sure we´re all in this together.
(We can reverse the Tax Increases when we have cut enough wasted spending to do so.)

Leave the Debt Ceiling frozen to require the Federal Reserve to cover all overspending by expanding the money supply - as they have already been doing.)

Put Obama on Quarterly Probationary Budgeting. (The federal workforce must have maximum skin in the game, and Obama must face the music every quarter.)
- Freeze every Department´s Budget in inflated dollars, with zero growth trajectory and zero inflation offset, until the Budget is balanced.
- Freeze compensation of the non-Defense federal workforce until the Budget
is balanced.
- Replace Continuing Budget Resolutions with Quarterly Probationary Budgets that make real quarterly cuts across the board for every department.
- Reduce each non-Defense Department´s Quarterly Budget by 1% from the prior
Quarter as a cut in Waste, Fraud and Abuse, and define its unique performance metric for return on spending.
- Institute quarterly House reviews of every Department´s performance before passing the next Quarterly Budget.

...into the light of the dark Black Knight !

Going over the cliff might be the only realistic revolution Americans can achieve.

Agree with # 2 and others--vote present on everything, they own the disaster,they own it ALL, hopefully in 2014 we make big inroads in congress, and can take 2016..