Appearing on Special Report this evening, conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg had a pretty harsh assessment of the Republican Party at this current moment. “The Republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now,” Goldberg told host Bret Baier. “I think the House Republicans are slightly more disciplined, which is why you’re not hearing a lot of House Republicans out there talking.” He took a swipe at congressmen like Rep. Peter King (R-NY) who “wasn’t part of the [fiscal cliff] conversation” talking about the party’s potential tax plans despite not holding much actual weight in the actual negotiations.
Anyone who´s been waiting around for the GOP or elections to fix the sad and declining state of America, are as stupid as an Obama voter. We get the country our forefathers died for back by being willing to do the same, and time and hope are fleeting.
Right now the Republican Party reminds me of those little churches all over the map, each consisting of a group of people who fought over a jot or tittle and splintered away in righteous indignation, started their own First Church of the Jot, and then splintered again when the Tittles got offended....and on and on.
What do we agree on? What do we want to achieve? What top 5 issues should be paramount? What will make or break America?
I believe that without a business-friendly country, an easier tax code, freedom to explore for our own oil, an expectation of personal responsibility from all Americans, and politicians who get the same health care and pensions as any other public SERVANT, nothing else is going to be achieved. And maybe that´s why we´re fractured. Who except the average non-politician Republican would want that?
When I attended our caucus this year, I made the comment that the GOP was in trouble. People snickered and laughed at me. It sucks to be right because it shows how clueless the members of the party really are. They are at home licking their wounds. Me? I am done with the GOP. It is gutless and leaderless. Bush? Really?? Stupid is as stupid does.
I am preparing my family to survive the coming collapse of the Dollar, and the takeover of the socialist statists.
I concur with reply #9. Jonah is like a breath of fresh air, and SHOULD have had Charles´ seat. Of a truth though, the vast majority of "pubbies" I wouldn´t give a plug nickle for. Maybe they can stick their finger in the air wet and figure out what to do......
The GOP is stomping down the path laid out by its predecessor, the Whig Party. A new, vigorous, principled party cannot be formed until the GOP "leadership" has finished retracting into a small, exclusive, increasingly ineffective "me too" clique -- at process begun in 1932 and only briefly interrupted during 1981 - 1988. They apparently believe that country needs another Democrat party, only one that´s a lot smoother and sleeker, and wants to be a little less brutal in guiding the country into socialism.
Jonah is too kind. "Disarray" hardly describes the havoc and disillusionment being wrought by this gaggle of placemen, cowards, appeasers and grandees devoid of any political principle except that of saving their own careers at any cost.
Time for Tea. The Tea Party, that is. The Republican Party is too full of conformists who "just want to be loved" by the liberal denizens of DC.
Does anyone know what the leadership vote was for Boehner on the first day back? Is that a secret vote? Are we not allowed to know the level of his non-support? If I saw that number going up, I might have some hope left.
I saw Jonah on Fox yesterday......I agree he made some important points however I have seen him go negative on Republicans before and it bothers me ......and Jonah forget the comb over it looks silly.........
Republicans will continually lose in both politics and world conflict. It seems they never will accept that to go into battle they must get down on the level of the opposition. In politics they stand by and watch themselves vilified, lied about, personally insulted and slapped around even from the House and Senate floors. Then they claim they must be cordial and respectful to those who do it even as they see such vitriol win elections.
It is frustrating to see the hardball tactics used successfully by liberals be rejected by the conservatives as an unfair way to fight even as they go down in flames come election time.
The Republican Party is trying to do the Sally Fields thing of they like me, they really like me by trying to be compassionate conservatices. Who is going to vote for a party that will only give you some free stuff when the other party will give you all free stuff? And in the meantime, those of us who make the free stuff possible are attacked by our own party.
I don´t feel as though I or my conservative friends are in disarray. I do believe that Republican leadership is in disarray. The back-stabbing and bloody Republican Primary made that clear. I think a lot of us were disgusted by how negative that was. And, honestly, IMHO Romney was the most negative of all and he was the party leadership favorite - just like McCain and Dole.
I must concede that Republicans have also become the party of "No." Although Romney may have had some very sound ideas, he never effectively articulated any of them (except maybe Israel.) There was no clear positive message. I think this was out of fear that he would have to explain their detail to the presstitutes. He was simply not prepared or willing to deal with them. Very sad.
I don´t think that disarray is our problem. We need to stop being cowards. Brietbart was correct in his premise that we must engage at a cultural level. No more debates run by liberal moderators. Absolutely no more!! Darrell Issa can demand documents all he wants (it´s his job) but we need to start showing pictures and interviews of the Mexican families whose lives have been destroyed by Eric Holder´s gun running. We need to start producing documentaries like "Roger and Me" to bring home the incredible loss that this country has experienced since Pelosi and Reid took over.
Finish up licking our wounds, but let´s move on at take the fight against Liberals for a change.
I´d LOVE to know also how to prepare for it. I left my homeland many years ago to get AWAY from the mess we are about to face here but I can´t think of a country to escape to at this point. Give us some clues.
Following four years of Democrats being as Communist as can be, the Republicans had the best chance they´ll ever have to gut the Dems like festering fish. Instead they floundered and fell on their pikes like callow fools.
I submit to you the Democrats recognized the first rule of winning a war is to Put Your Mind Into The Mind Of The Enemy
The Dems have won. The Republicans are now as much Dem as the Dems are.
I think it´s unreasonable to expect politicians to always act on principal, it goes against human nature. We have traitors to the cause in our own ranks,these who stayed home rather then vote for Romney. We mock democrats as stupid, but at least they go out and vote, there smart enough for that. I believe the it was the intellectually and emotionally challenged people in our own party that gave the election to Obama.
I cast my last vote for the Republicrats this month. Whether they are a D or a R, politicians are self-serving, power-hungry and opportunistic. Meanwhile, the propagandist media has fooled us into thinking there is a binary choice during the elections. It´s all a cynical, divisive power game and I won´t vote for either side anymore.
Jonah is ´´spot on´´ regarding the fact that Republican Senators have nothing to do with any so-called bipartisan deliberations on the ´´Fiscal Cliff´´ crisis; it´s the responsibility of the Republicans who control the House of Representatives and President Obama.
The only voices I´ve heard thus far are Speaker Boehner, Obama and too many Senators of both parties who feel the apparent need to been visible.
To them I respectfully suggest; go sit quietly and await your turn. You are doing nothing but adding more confusion to an already perplexing situation.
Republicans should take a break, regroup and above all shut up-- until they have their act together. This is not the time for a public circular firing squad of criticism. Of course Republicans are in disarray. After the election of 2010, weren´t the Democrats in disarray?
I have an even more basic observation: are the Republicans even a real party any more? To be a real party they need to have a real platform. Exactly what is that platform? What are the core principles around which they will coalesce? And who is the party´s "charismatic leader," the one who stands before the country as the champion of those principles?
Answer: nobody. They all waffle, waver, and weasel what they believe and what they will espouse. None of them will champion the core principles that our founders risked their lives for. They all are scrambling to "move to the middle" (which now is very left of center).
You have to give the b%%$%^&*^% credit - they are united in their treachery. No one circles the wagons than democraps- period. The party of the weak has been assimilated into the demoscum/Borg collective. I have been looking for options as well, and have come up empty - which doubles down on my frustration. Fine tuning the "me to - me to" repub org. is akin reorganizing the deck chair on the Titanic....
I can´t ever remember feeling this bad for soooo long now...
Military interventionism turns off a lot of people who really want smaller government. Rick Santorum´s Sunday School preaching turns off a lot of people. GOP politicians are incapable of handling the pro-life movement. Politicians need to be kept out of it, they do more harm than good. Politics won´t win the culture wars. If only the GOP could have stuck to simple principles: cut taxes, stop spending, stop borrowing, shrink government. On top of that they failed to stand up against the constant smears from the left about the "evil rich racist white male". Forget "the country", forget politics. Concentrate on saving our own.
In 2016 the Dems will find another minority to run as Pres. Can´t lose, they have it figured out now. The Republican party can go to the bottom of the ocean feed on whale excrement as far as I am concerned.
The Dems get control and they put a bulldog in as majority leader(Reid/Pelosi)...the smarmy repubs put in Trent Lott and Mitch Mconnell with John Boehner.
What a complete joke you moderate scum Republican leaders.
´Getting rid of Rino´s" is the opposite of understanding the problem. The party needs to work at expanding its base instead of indulging in ankle biting. The Rino suggestion reminds me of "ten miles up the Big Muddy and the Big Fool says to move on."
We have a two party system; after all of the sound and fury of the primaries, it is us against them, and if you don´t go vote for the person on the ticket who most nearly represents your views - even if he isn´t the perfect (Rino) candidate)- the other side wins.
# 8 has a great analysis. The Republican Party is comprised of many splintered groups , each one offended and angry and accusing the other factions. The reality is that no single faction can survive on it´s own. The issues highlighted by # 8 should be the unifying factor for all groups. Until a single leader appears who can unify the factions into a Big Tent , with every faction having to give a little to get a lot , the party will remain in disarray and be easy pickings for 2014. Some of the Republicans publicly talking about the fiscal cliff are being purposefully misquoted or half quoted by the media specifically to foment dissent. And it´s working perfectly.
Here´s what I view as conservative core principles: 1. Small gov´t 2. Small taxes 3. Small gov´t intrusion into people´s lives 4. The superiority of the individual over the collective
These principles cannot and shouldn´t be compromised. Everything else, all other issues, e.g., abortion, illegal immigration, etc., are not sacred cows. They can be worked into being used to our advantage.
#13, Eheu is on the mark but the problem began in 1912 not 1932. TR observed that ´The R Party does not belong to the Corporations; it is the Party of Lincoln and plain people...´. TR, a political visionary like Disraeli, grasped that post Civil War wealth creation, was empowering the middle class so he envisioned Labor as a natural R constituency. But his loss to Taft labled the GOP as the party of Big Business. Then when FDR gave Labor a big seat at the D table, the fate of the GOP was sealed. The nation will survive but the R carcass will not. No tears as its fossilized establishment has long outlived any useful function.
The high percentage of disatisfied ad disillusioned voters commenting on this thread are finally venting en masse how useless the two parties are, especially the one called republican. How very disappointing that all the things that are being so eagerly espoused by this goverment and its impostor in charge are what I hoped to leave behind when I immigrated legally iover forty years ago. Pravda seems to have a good handle on what´s amiss in the once great USA and I would suggest we might even consider a dacha on the Black Sea as some where to find refuge.
Wow! Where did all these bed-wetters come from? Move-on? This is a conservative website, not a Republican site. Having said that, all this sobbing and carrying on in, well, unmanly. The Republicans didn´t get blown out. Do you not remember 2010? That was a blow-out. This election was relatively close. The candidate wasn´t a true blue conservative, but the issues he ran on were pretty damn close to all the policies stated here. We conservatives lost because we didn´t get the vote out against Obama. Simple as that. Too many thumb-suckers stayed at home. So, now we have four more years of Marxist goings on in the White House. So, we damn well need to support the horses we have. We have lots of good conservatives in the house and the senate. Support them. Give them some encouragement. Support some new conservative candidates. Get off your butt. Good grief man, lace up your boots and pick up your rifle and go our to face the enemy. The Great Shiphandler
And the clever bad guys continue to pound the dumb, and now disarrayed guys... America, increasingly the home of the Red, White and buy a clue.
Obama´s same old game is to take no position, but wait until the Republicans take a position, and then chip away. The Republicans continue to fall for this game playing over and over, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. If I were Boehner, I´d call a Full Stop, and call Obama on his game and demand to see his opening position. And even if the Republicans think they´ve got a good deal, it will still be same-o same-o... Tax increases will go into effect immediately and the cuts the Dems agreed to will vaporize. Twas ever thus, even in the days of Reagan and Tip O´Neill. ´Bout time for a Republican with stones to stop this non-sense... [crickets chirping...]
#11, 17, 26. Me too. Must be a place with excellent affordable health care. For me, I need warmth as the cold makes my wounds from surgery ache. A place that is affordable, a place we would be welcomed. A place that has good water and healthy food. Access to places in the world where your money will be secure. And, not necessary for my well-being, but necessary for a good and safe community - a place where the people are moral and religious. Look to South and Central America. Seriously, check it out. I have for the last two years. Another surgery under Medicare and I should be out of here before summer. Good luck. I feel I have done my part, I have not been shy when others needed help. This government will not turn around in my lifetime. And just in case, I want to find a place where my children can follow. It´s not a case of running; it´s a case of looking for a decent future.
Blah, blah, blah! How many people who did not want Obama to win failed to go vote for Romney, who was the major party candidate opposing him? If that failure describes you, have yourself committed to an institution.
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