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GOP faces quandary in
Senate primaries

The Hill [Washington DC], by Alexandra Jaffe

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/24/2012 6:14:08 PM

A growing push for more establishment involvement in Republican primaries may put the party in a bind as the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) grapples with helping the best possible candidates get elected in primaries in 2014. It’s a catch-22 for the party: Stay out, and risk untested candidates like Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) or Richard Mourdock of Indiana prevailing in the primaries and losing winnable races; or engage early and risk the kind of grassroots backlash that divided the party in many of the 2010 Senate races. There is a consensus among a number of state Republican

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 11/24/2012 6:18:38 PM     (No. 9032341)

Real difficult.

How about, nominate good candidates who aren´t RINOs.

I realize the party apparat has not had a good record with this in recent years, but THAT´S WHAT IS NEEDED.

Yeah, and no witches.


Reply 2 - Posted by: DCGIRL, 11/24/2012 6:28:36 PM     (No. 9032354)

Talking about RINOs, let´s start by replacing Georgia´s Senator Chambliss. I believe he is up for re-election in 2014. This man caves on most issues and sides with the democrats. Also, please no more idiots like Akins and Mourdock.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: JediJerry, 11/24/2012 6:32:07 PM     (No. 9032359)

Keep doing the same thing you do and keep getting the same results you are getting.
The blind and foolish GOP Repstablishment is the same group of well intentioned RINO´s that brought us Dole, McCain and Romney. Now that you know, the big question is what are you going to do about it. As far as I am concerned, I don´t care anymore.
I am out of energy and completely demoralized and demotivated. Do what you want. I sitting the next couple of elections out. I am adopting the 3rd Tradition of my 12 Step group, and that is I have no opinion on outside issues. One thing though before I go and that is instead of having 30 or 40 Republican candidate debates, we should have 100 to 200 debates. You know, one or two a day for a year. Also we need more circular firing squads. Romney and the rest of the Republicans did a marvbelous job before the primaries. The way Mitt destroyed Newt was a work of art and pure genius. Too bad he was afraid to use the same tactics on The Boy Who Would Be King.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Howard Adams, 11/24/2012 6:32:51 PM     (No. 9032360)

And so why didn´t Tommy Thompson win in Wisconsin, and Connie Mack in FL, and Denny Rehberg in Montana, and George Allen in Virgina?

Blame it on the Tea Party!


Reply 5 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/24/2012 6:37:45 PM     (No. 9032365)

Why not try REAL conservatism? It hasn´t been tried yet.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Penney, 11/24/2012 6:40:24 PM     (No. 9032366)

Since some suggest that after the last election the eagle could now be replaced by an ostrich on the National Emblem, will the remaining GOP Senators now become as, ´´fainting goats,´´ in the political arena?!! s/


Reply 7 - Posted by: suedotsue, 11/24/2012 6:52:17 PM     (No. 9032375)

Todd Akin wasn´t untested. He was elected as a US congressman in 2001. Tea Party members supported 3 candidates in the primary, one of whom was Akin. He wasn´t a guy plucked out of the citizenry by the Tea Party. Mourdock also wasn´t untested, had been elected to state wide office of treasurer. Mourdock´s biggest opponent all along wasn´t the democrat. It was the establishment GOP and nut case Lugar who at age 80 was enraged that voters had a say in things. The GOP establishment ran liberal Tommy Thompson to fend off likely Tea Party candidates up and coming in the state. Thompson lost but the GOP won because they blocked the Tea Party. The GOP´s greatest victory was against Rep. Allen West in Fla. They redistricted West out of his district. Then they ran an alleged moderate longtime Sheriff against him in the 2012 primary who attacked West as being from the extreme wing of the party. The challenger lost but true to establishment GOP form, he endorsed the democrat in the election and made bitter statements about West. Just a few of many examples.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Immanuel Goldstein, 11/24/2012 7:02:09 PM     (No. 9032387)

Romney is a good man, but he couldn´t shake the image of an out of touch, rich, white country club Republican who had no touch with the concerns of the common people. I hope that this is the last election in which the Rockefeller wing of the Republican party calls the shots. They had the chance to energize a huge army of middle and working class tea party people and spread a message of inclusiveness. Instead the establishment froze them out. They hated Sarah Palin so much that they would rather lose the election than include her, and the energy that she would have brought to the campaign. They didn´t need to name her as vice president. Just invite her to speak at the convention, and ask her to campaign for the ticket. If they had done so, they would have brought millions of Tea Party patriots out to vote. They didn´t, so the Tea Party stayed home. Idiots!


Reply 9 - Posted by: Starlady, 11/24/2012 7:04:38 PM     (No. 9032389)

George Allen was a pathetic candidate this time. I don´t think his heart was in it. His ads were the worst. A high school student could have done better. Those that were done by outside PACS on his behalf were good. I didn´t expect him to win after his lackluster campaign.
I think what is needed is some campaign training by the NRSC for new national candidates. A few pointers on how to answer the hot button issues tactfully would be useful.


Reply 10 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 11/24/2012 7:17:27 PM     (No. 9032400)

The general election Mitt Romney wasn´t the same guy who demolished the other Republicans in the primaries. The Mitt in the general election hired all of John McCain´s advisors who immediately tried to shut him down and shut him up.

I believe, left to his own devices, Mitt would have demolished the Boy Wonder. I am waiting for the Republican candidates to look honestly at this year´s election strategy and FIRE all those RINO advisors who keep losing elections for us.

Romney showed us he could win the debates, I think the advisors told him to tone it down during the last two because he was scaring voters. Give me a break! After that first debate our guy surged in the polls and then went steadily down from that point on.

Also, anyone who wants to back Chris Christie for president needs to watch his video praising Obama four days ahead of the election! What a piece of work that was.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Muncsdad, 11/24/2012 7:17:45 PM     (No. 9032402)

We will start working to eject Kay Hagan from the Senate. I believe we should demonize her like the democrats did Obama. Her husband is a multimillionaire. It´s time to place the class warfare angle on the limousine lib dems.

Let´s channel Lee Atwater for 2014.

MM


Reply 12 - Posted by: Muncsdad, 11/24/2012 7:19:41 PM     (No. 9032404)

Oops! Like the Democrats did ROMNEY. Sorry, Auburn was just beaten to a pulp by Alabama. Not in a happy frame of mind.

MM


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: KimoSaavy, 11/24/2012 7:26:40 PM     (No. 9032411)

So say it. The GOP is lost.

They don´t know how to proceed after the Nov trouncing
They don´t know how to address voter fraud; and yes VIrginia, there was massive voter fraud
They don´t know how to integrate Tea Party candidates
They don´t know how to integrate minority voters
They don´t know how to stop the dems from choosing GOP candidates
They don´t know how to fight back instead have allowed the libs/dems/communist define who they are: Homophobes, racist, party of white men, war on women guerrilas. Good luck trying to wash that off by 2016


The GOP should be left to their own devices and drown in their own puke. Tea Party should step aside and not save them like they did in 2010. BTW, let´s not forget the GOP majority in the House was due to Tea Party weat and tears yet the GOP repudiates the Tea Party at every chance it gets; see their zilch efforts to help Allen West.

No, I think the Constitutional Party is overdue. May take several election cycles to take on but the GOP is like a turkey at 2PM on the 4th Thursday of November; done.


Reply 14 - Posted by: chance_232, 11/24/2012 7:37:23 PM     (No. 9032417)

Sorry #13....but the stakes are to high to "stand aside". Thats how we got to where we are now. Perhaps instead of a "Constitution" party, we get conservatives to run that CAN WIN. If you insist on a 3rd party...start at the local level and build a base.

Running 3rd party conservatives is a surefire way to guarantee that the socialists expand their power.


Reply 15 - Posted by: John c, 11/24/2012 8:05:34 PM     (No. 9032431)

Allen West for GOP leader!


Reply 16 - Posted by: tisHimself, 11/24/2012 8:07:23 PM     (No. 9032432)

She whose name we must not speak does a pretty good job of picking winners at the dog track. Maybe the idiots who don´t want to listen to her will acknowledge that her message and instincts are laudatory.


Reply 17 - Posted by: sunsong, 11/24/2012 8:20:25 PM     (No. 9032438)

The GOP has earned the title: "The Stupid Party." And here they are again. After losing to Obama twice - the thing to do is go out and get to know America. Meet people, listen to them, talk to them, listen to them. It´s a time to learn - not a time to lecture.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: curious1, 11/24/2012 8:25:09 PM     (No. 9032440)

#14, how´s that working out for you, say, for the election earlier this month Though I would correct a statement made from, "Perhaps instead of a "Constitution" party, we get conservatives to run that CAN WIN." to "...get conservatives to run." Clearly delineating the options between a socialist and a conservative, the conservative will win hands down (65%+ of the country identifies with a conservative platform). Offering a socialist and a socialist-lite, well, the libtards will go for the real thing every time, and conservatives just don´t want socialism, lite or otherwise.
For anyone who claims the in last 7 presidential elections the pubbies ran a conservative, well, perhaps a good dose of reality is in order.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/24/2012 8:28:21 PM     (No. 9032443)

Kimo Saavy speak big,painful truth.

White Man Party big strong idea but tiny ding ding.


Reply 20 - Posted by: ebuilder, 11/24/2012 9:08:09 PM     (No. 9032478)

They´re not cool. They don´t fight. They take orders. Inside they all look like Karl Rove. They can´t beat a party of racists, communists, traitors, and incompetents. They sold their soul for a New World Order before democrats thought of counterfeiting that with a hipper, anti-Israel style caliphate world order. They have evolved into 80´s liberals that will not their own side in an argument. They fear offending an illegal or perverted demographic. They just re-elected Boehner. They are the stupid party.


Reply 21 - Posted by: nonsense, 11/24/2012 9:38:54 PM     (No. 9032508)

The quandary is how to stop the Demonrats from their blatant election fraud and theft.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Italiano, 11/24/2012 9:49:26 PM     (No. 9032518)

Yeah, I´ m just so bleeping fired up about 2014 right now. The first GOP phone solicitor who calls me is going to wish he didn´t.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: enuf8, 11/24/2012 11:29:51 PM     (No. 9032592)

Ted Cruz, Deb Fischer and Jeff Flake - 3 Senators endorsed by Gov. Palin in the primaries and campaigned for them with boots on the ground were T.E.A. party endorsees. The establishment/elites supported the RINOs. Sarah Steelman was Akin´s competitor and probably would have beaten McCaskill, but Rove and the elites/establishment supported Akin--


Reply 24 - Posted by: Elvira, 11/25/2012 12:40:41 AM     (No. 9032625)

The NRSC will NEVER get another dime from me. I would gladly walk, crawl to my last breath for a Constitutional Party candidate. BTW, I haven´t sent them a dime for the last TWO elections!

Rove etc. couldn´t lick West´s boots! Ptshaww, losers who think they know more than "The People". How far the mighty will fall. You made your money, leave!


Reply 25 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 11/25/2012 12:52:04 AM     (No. 9032632)

I know. Why not try someone with a spine ?


Reply 26 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 11/25/2012 1:33:25 AM     (No. 9032654)

Looking back on the election I will say that Michael Savage called the shots pretty accurately when he said Obama would win again, but he made a lot of people mad
who were hoping Romney would win, including me. It was probably a hard thing to do, to tell his listener base why Romney wouldn´t win but he was right. I wish Savage would have talked more about voter fraud, though.
If we don´t address voter fraud we will never win another national election.


Reply 27 - Posted by: NotaBene, 11/25/2012 3:14:03 AM     (No. 9032668)

Follow the Tea Party.


Reply 28 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/25/2012 6:07:14 AM     (No. 9032725)

Leaving it up to the NRSC means you will have people like Charlie Crist (the man they supported over Marco Rubio) Think that will work out for the Republicans? He was kissing up to Democrats before Christie.


Reply 29 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 11/25/2012 7:02:27 AM     (No. 9032751)

I dunno. Picking winners at the dog track isn´t exactly a qualifying skill for electing a president. And I guess I missed that "laudatory message". What and when was that? The message most of us heard was something on the order of "Well, if you must, you can vote for Romney/Ryan, but you´re gonna be sorry.".


Reply 30 - Posted by: Susannah, 11/25/2012 7:40:42 AM     (No. 9032776)

#23, John Brunner was the Tea Party candidate and the RNSC candidate, so he had the backing of the the "common folk" and the "elites." Karl Rove backed also Brunner. Steelman came in third.

Nobody backed Akin but the Democratic party. And he got 39% of the vote against McCaskill.


Reply 31 - Posted by: tomishere, 11/25/2012 1:40:09 PM     (No. 9033238)

it is true establishment candidates lost, but they where mostly in blue states. The Tea party candidates lost in solid blue states. The Tea party which started as a protest against Obama´s out of control spending, was hijacked by the social conservatives. It´s a shame because the tea party was a great movement.



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Politico, by Donovan Slack    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/8/2013 10:17:29 PM     Post Reply
A new CNN/ORC International poll found President Obama´s overall approval rating has ticked up to 51 percent but ratings have fallen on his handling of the key issues on his agenda: immigration, guns, and the deficit. On immigration, 44 percent approve of the way he is handling the issue, down from 51 percent in January. At the same time, disapproval has jumped to 50 percent, up from 43 percent in January. On guns, 45 percent approve and 52 percent disapprove, the poll found. In January, 46 percent approved and 49 percent dispproved. And on the deficit, 38 percent approve

Obamacare architect Rockefeller:
It´s ´beyond comprehension´

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/10/2013 7:17:19 AM     Post Reply
West Virginia Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller, one of the towering architects of Obamacare, on Tuesday openly criticized program managers for not moving quickly enough to build the system, warning that if it gets off to a bumpy start it will just get worse. Decrying the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as way too complex, he warned the acting Medicare director that Obamacare is "so complicated and if it isn´t done right the first time, it will just simply get worse."


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