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Cooking a Poundcake in a Metric Oven Is No Easy Task
Wall Street Journal, by Justin Scheck
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Posted By:StormCnter, 11/24/2012 5:53:33 AM
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| Zach Rodriguez tries to practice what he preaches, which is why he reprogrammed his mother´s oven to display 180 degrees Celsius, rather than 356 degrees Fahrenheit. The 19-year-old college student from San Antonio wanted to make a poundcake. But he is a firm believer in the metric system, so baking in Fahrenheit wouldn´t do. He "metricated" the oven using "a complicated, nonintuitive sequence of button pressing," he says. Mr. Rodriguez is a member of a small, committed group of U.S. metric devotees—the vestige of a once-mighty crusade to get Americans to abandon
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
zoidberg, 11/24/2012 6:11:25 AM (No. 9031404)
I cook Thanksgiving dinner at my parents´ house every year. They bought a new digital meat thermometer, and I couldn´t figure out how to get it to display Fahrenheit temperature. Thankfully, I knew how to convert. So 165F is about 74C.
Metric is so much easier. Our system of inches and feet is like the old English monetary system with its pence, farthings, shillings, etc.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Rather Read, 11/24/2012 6:44:40 AM (No. 9031428)
Metric is easy. I love to bake and always use a digital scale that is calibrated in grams. It´s so easy to scale up and down.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
carl todd hand, 11/24/2012 7:11:37 AM (No. 9031444)
Metric is for the sheeple. Move to Europe.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
slab, 11/24/2012 7:16:00 AM (No. 9031448)
Each to his own. Metric has it´s place, but I will give up my pounds, miles and teaspoons around the time I give up my guns.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 11/24/2012 7:31:34 AM (No. 9031457)
Don´t complain until you´ve walked a kilometer in their moccasins.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
ziel, 11/24/2012 7:40:36 AM (No. 9031468)
He is an idiot. Metric and US, it makes no difference. Simple multiplier will do, OK in case in deg versus F it is multiplication and addition. Basic math, problem is very few people know basic math after leaving school.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
uno, 11/24/2012 7:56:58 AM (No. 9031489)
I prefer metric time...
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
SourKraut, 11/24/2012 8:04:53 AM (No. 9031502)
I´ve got a Metric Crescent Wrench set
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
cromrock, 11/24/2012 8:14:34 AM (No. 9031515)
Anybody read Ray Bradbury´s Celsius 232.777778?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
msjena, 11/24/2012 8:18:21 AM (No. 9031518)
Fahrenheit, all the way. It would be a sad day if the US gave in and started using kilos, etc. I kind of half expect it, though, with our European socialist president.
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Attila DiMedici, 11/24/2012 8:30:49 AM (No. 9031548)
Metric is easier for some things. However, I saw an article, by someone from Europe, who wrote that Imperial Units are better suited (and easier) for the types of things that most people do. He claimed that for cooking and baking Imperial units more readily divide into the ratios that are needed, especially when you want to reduce the size of the recipe. The article gives an example of why the group being discussed has failed. The guy who designed a house in metric units...using components that are sized in Imperial units where he merely converted the imperial units to metric on his plans. The resulting measurements were difficult to remember (which is easier to remember, 4´x 8´ or 121.92 cm x 243.84 cm?).
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Triggerberg, 11/24/2012 8:53:55 AM (No. 9031592)
I remember when the inch was equal to 25. 4xxxxxxxx millimeters. And then one day we were told in math class that some committee had declared that from that day on the inch would be equal to 25.4 millimeters Exactly. With emphasis on the ´exactly´ being repeated for a number of years thereafter. I wondered then, and still do, why this August Committee had not seen it possible to declare the inch to be 25.0 millimeters Exactly. It would have required a bit of fiddling with the official standards for the length of the inch and millimeter, but they had to do that anyway, and if 25 millimeters equaled one inch the distinction between the ´metric´ system and English would essentially vanish. (Personally, I blame the French for this failure.)
I put ´metric system´ in quotes because most seem to think it applies only to use of millimeters, kilometers, and so on. However, the use of tenths, thousands, etc., in the English system is as old as the industrial revolution and is still very much alive and well. Ask any machinist.
And then there are fractions. Pushers of going all metric often ridicule working with fractions and make the claim that if we went European metric, students wouldn´t have to ´waste time´ learning fraction math. I think that argument comes from those who never make anything, never do any actual designing, measuring and putting together Sometimes working with thirds or sevenths is simpler than .333333´s or .14285714´s.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
franq, 11/24/2012 9:00:37 AM (No. 9031599)
If metric is the thing, why does the UK still publish people´s weight in "stone"?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
TheMotherCO, 11/24/2012 9:17:08 AM (No. 9031637)
Not going to do metrics and never will think they are necessary. We are not europeans and I do not care what they do.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Ray_Stoddard, 11/24/2012 9:23:24 AM (No. 9031653)
FTA: ""If we are considered keepers of the flame," metric-association Vice President Paul Trusten says, "it´s because the rest of the country is in darkness.""...
Wow...Man has a God-shaped hole in his heart, said Blaise Pascal, and tries to fill that hole with drugs, sex greed etc.
It´s very telling that the metric-association Vice President uses language fit for a religious zealot. It´s a Godless bunch, really...And ain´t it the way of the tyrant / busybody / leftoid to tell us the proper way to run our lives or measure our eyelashes.
And me? The metric system I can take or leave. Except when asked directions to the nearest general store, I like to say that it a few kilometers down the road (heh-heh).
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
iceman, 11/24/2012 9:40:14 AM (No. 9031682)
Metric time? Huh? Oh, you mean Navy time.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
uno, 11/24/2012 9:59:22 AM (No. 9031711)
Oh, and the Metric color system...
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
rustycfc, 11/24/2012 10:59:25 AM (No. 9031789)
if canada can do it so can we. canada allowed so much money and time in which to change over to metric and came under buget and time.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
galbaccr, 11/24/2012 11:09:19 AM (No. 9031811)
There is no danger of our current government increasing the use of metric. That´s because it is lead by a president who is mathematically challenged - probably can´t add 2 + 2 without a calculator. Oh! I forgot! He probably wouldn´t know how to use a calculator. The education system that promoted him to his current level concentrated on socialist brainwashing rather than on the three R´s; especially the ´rithmatic part of those 3 R´s. I wish I could recall it - but there was some recent example of his incompetence with numbers - besides the 57 state thing.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Eheu Fugaces, 11/24/2012 11:26:18 AM (No. 9031845)
We´re already turning into France in all other respects. Why do we have to adopt their Metric System as well? Can´t we have something left of our traditional ways? Personally, I like Fahrenheit. I like the minute gradations in temperature, instead of the massive agglutinations of Celsius. I don´t give a damn what the EU or the UN want us to do, either.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec, 11/24/2012 12:25:35 PM (No. 9031931)
Geez, all this talk of weights and measures is giving me the metric blues.....
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
LadyHen, 11/24/2012 12:28:13 PM (No. 9031937)
Why bother? We muddle along pretty well with inches, acres, pounds, and gallons as it is now. Assuming everyone can multiply and divide, this really shouldn´t be an issue, should it?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
JHHolliday, 11/24/2012 12:51:11 PM (No. 9031974)
I´ll give up my inches and pounds when they pry them...etc.
No need to change our system. When I was racing sports cars I had a complete set of metric tools. With metric wrenches and sockets you can get a fit on any nut or bolt no matter what country the car came from. It came in handy that way but I have no desire to cook my turkey in Celsius.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
earlybird, 11/24/2012 2:16:21 PM (No. 9032078)
We have other far more serious concerns to deal with. My manufacture a new one just to get your name in the WSJ? So fie on Zach and the WSJ. And if LDotters have the time or inclination to fool around with this, have at it. I am sticking with the measurement system I learned and have used for many purposes - as well as cooking with it - for decades. If it ain´t broke, don´t fix it.
I had a challenge when I bought a Harrod´s preserves cookbook. Marvelous stuff. Simply bought a metric measuring cup and a set of metric measuring spoons and that was it.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
earlybird, 11/24/2012 2:17:57 PM (No. 9032080)
Oops. Just realized those Harrod´s recipes (and the equipment I purchased to make them without messing with conversion charts) were in Imperial measures.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
SoCalGal, 11/24/2012 2:22:45 PM (No. 9032085)
Zealots are such bores.
How is Zach doing finding a real job so he can move out and stop messing with his mother´s oven temp guage?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
veritas, 11/24/2012 2:45:34 PM (No. 9032108)
1. Well, full marks for the headline writer, and an extra pint of Guinness, too.
2. Uhhh, sorry, metricationists, but that system is every bit as arbitrary as the English system of units. It takes a cloak of sciency superiority because it makes more use of base ten, but that´s where it begins and ends. I find [and would argue] that the English units, especially everyday ones like the inch and foot, are far more intuitive and useful than the centimeter and meter. But we´d better draw that line in the sand over metric units now, ´cause with those nuts, it´s give ´em a cubit and they´ll take a furlong! 40 rods, even!
And base ten is likewise arbitrary. We use it for two reasons only. You´ll find those reasons in your pair of gloves -- your two hands... which have ten fingers.
And that means all our numerical "milestones" are arbitrary, too, like a 500-mile race, a 100-yard dash, a 100-story-skyscraper, or a 50th anniversary.
Too bad ignorance abounds.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Grommit, 11/24/2012 4:52:56 PM (No. 9032255)
Shouldn´t that be a 0.4535924 Kg cake?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Aindyin, 11/24/2012 11:04:34 PM (No. 9032573)
Idiots
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
zoidberg, 11/25/2012 11:44:23 AM (No. 9033062)
There are no English units for volts, amperes, ohms, microfarads, millihenrys, etc. Although a watt is about .0013 horsepower.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
coldoc, 11/25/2012 3:42:12 PM (No. 9033373)
But, #8, is it left or right handed?
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
civilservant, 11/26/2012 11:15:47 AM (No. 9034270)
Don´t know if it is true, but I´d heard that the metric system was created so thart Napoleon would have continuity in the tribute paid to him. In Paris, there is an exemplar of the system(?), a one kilo bar one meter long etc?? Well, as far as I am concerned, if France is the originator, it ain´t gonna be used at my house.
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