Secession has been tried, resulting in carnage. No matter, as Americans are no longer up to fertilizing the tree of liberty. Americans of yore were made of sterner stuff.

Secession is a emotional reaction to the over throw of our government by an Indonesia socialist. It would be a joke if all of the states had to have their own currency, stamps, armed forces, etc. Like it or not we are stuck together. We need to return to the ideas in place when the Constitution was written. Namely only property owners voted. Translated into today´s terms only taxpayers vote.

The States are the only source of power left in America that might actually rein in the Federal Government. I was surprised recently to read that the United States used to be a plural term (pre Lincoln), and that the agreement ending our Revolutionary War with England referred to ending the state of war with each State separately, not as a whole.

We only need 34 states to call a Constitutional Convention. That means we don´t need any help from the big blue states of California, New York, Illinois, or Massachusetts. Nor do we need assistance from the White House or the Senate or the House. The GOP now has 30 State Governors, certainly enough to get the ball rolling.

How about an amendment repealing ObamaCare? How about another one requiring a 2/3 vote from the States before any increase in the Federal Debt Limit?

I´d be very afraid of a constitutional convention. The original one went off their purported guidelines (fortunately, in that instance). However, once the convention is called, then there are no rules controlling the delegates. My fear would be that the delegates would go "rogue".

Even if I wanted to,there´s no way I would put my personal info on a secession petition going straight to the WH.

It´s interesting to note that Romney won all the states with voter ID laws.

If Texas goes at least half the remaining states will follow. Then like-minded, productive conservative citizens with their capital will pour in. The socialist vampires and parasites will flee to the welfare states to support their habit since they will forever be cut-off, constitutionally, from the slightest possibility of benefits.

Is it completely impossible? No!

´´- leave the Takers to stew in their own juices -´´
That´s not what they would do. There would be civil war once again. And we have very strong foreign enemies that would love to see our country at war with itself.

But something must be done - and done soon. We may be left with only drastic options, but we need to choose wisely. We need to seek the Lord and His wisdom.

It´s the only option left to freedom loving Americans. It will be hard, but anything worth doing always is.

A few citizen´s arrests and trials would benefit more than secession and the resulting
destruction.

Not a good solution, but an appealing one, to be sure. We do indeed need a strategy, but I think #7 says it best. If we are to prevail, we need the Lord´s favor and His guidance. In addition to their own collective genius, that´s what the Founders had, as they would all readily attest.

The thought of use of force (Civil War) seems appealing, the ultimate in a reality TV show. But in the days since the Civil War, weaponry has advanced to the point that waging war against the U.S. government is silly, pointless. The major weapons platforms the government owns are thousands of magnitudes larger than any citizen could own.

Better to think in terms of Constitutional Conventions. The conservative states still hold the cards (and growing). The disparity between conservative control of states and liberal control of Washington is probably more proof of massive Federal election fraud. And that is the leverage we need to fix this problem.

It´s the wooden stake for the vampire´s heart.

This is not the 1800´s. Militarily crushing a seccesionist rebelion is not as easy as it used to be. The USSR knew this full well when Gerorgia, Ukraine, Khzikistan and others decided to secceed. There is just no way to justify it before the UN, and we know how much obama loves the UN. The federal government in washington actively supported the seccession process in theese former Soviet states which gives the support of legal precedance to secession. If your states governor walks into the UN and declares that your state is soverign nation, you can pretty much be sure that your state will be recognized as a soverign nation by the UN.

With nigh on 60% of the entire GDP dissapearing into the federal black hole (and rising), explain to the people in your state that that 60% will be staying in their pockets. Even the members of the communist part in your state will say, yes, I want that money in my pocket. People do what is in their better intrest to do. Secession is prosperity.

Go ahead and blow off a little steam in a discussion thread, but when push comes to shove see who actually does anything. There´s a good reason for why they fluoridate the water supply, besides making your morning cup of coffee taste funky.

These petitions will never amount to more than a database for new entries to 0bama´s Enemies List.

If you go to the website, https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions you will see there is also for:


"We request that 0bama be impeached for the following reasons." It lists four reasons and has 35,618 "signatures" when I post this. You know those signers will go on the Enemies List.