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Did Obama Cheat? How to
Answer the Question

American Thinker, by Paul Murphy

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/17/2012 5:50:52 AM

There are 15 states with photo ID requirements for voting. Mr. Obama lost in all of them. In places with the weakest controls, specifically counties in Florida, Ohio, Colorado, and Pennsylvania, he generally drew turnouts in the 90% or greater range and won by better than 95% of the vote. Losers tend to look for external explanations, and a lot of conservatives looking at numbers like those from Florida´s St. Lucie County (where Mr. Obama got 247,713 votes from only 175,554 registered voters) are starting to question the legitimacy of the electoral results as reported.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mws50, 11/17/2012 5:58:48 AM     (No. 9019982)

Of course the democrats cheated. They have a long history of cheating, in order to win elections and they have perfected their con.

One of our ex-residents, living in an assisted living complex was taken to the polls by the democrat organizers in their "free bus", along with everyone else capable of traveling and the entire trip to the polls they were told the republicans would be taking away their medicare and kicking them out into the street, so they had to vote straight democrat to save their assisted living arraignments. The driver scared her so she voted straight democrat, instead of voting for Romney.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: M2, 11/17/2012 6:23:35 AM     (No. 9019995)

Talk about wonky.

I read every word of that article and at the end came up with a single question: Who is going to read this article, understand it and then do anything about it?

...the system works only if we trust it -- and having a majority in the GOP write off a minority who think the results were rigged serves nobody. Not even Democrats.

It may have been fun for Mr. Murphy to put this all together but I have another point. He assumes that "a majority in the GOP wrote off a minority who think the results were rigged". How does Mr. Murphy know for certain that a "minority" of GOP voters think Obama won this election fraudulently? From every one I spoke with, all believe this election was riggefd from the day O was elected in ´08.

Maybe someone should actually check the voter roles and check every vote for people who have addresses and who have registered to vote, which Mr. Murphy does mention. But who is going to do that?

The lack of outrage on the GOP side about voter fraud we KNOW about is staggering to me. We all know this election was stolen.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Judith, 11/17/2012 6:27:50 AM     (No. 9020001)

I live in MA. I don´t think he cheated here, I think our voters are just that stupid. And everytime they complain about things costing more, their taxes, them getting less, our economy doing poorly, I´m going to tell them they voted for that.
Consequences for their actions, common sense and logic are not in their understanding.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Policom, 11/17/2012 6:45:35 AM     (No. 9020024)

If it´s true the the vote total reflected more people voted than were registered why is the County Clerk not fired? I thought the Clerk certified the election results as being correct?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 11/17/2012 6:46:36 AM     (No. 9020025)

Impeach the dictator.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: sfacheem, 11/17/2012 6:55:47 AM     (No. 9020044)

#2: "...numbers like those from Florida´s St. Lucie County (where Mr. Obama got 247,713 votes from only 175,554 registered voters)"

What is "wonky" about that? You have 175,554 registered voters, yet Obama receives 247,713 votes.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/17/2012 6:59:40 AM     (No. 9020050)

The republicans PR machine is a disaster and they have no activist groups like the left had thousands.Why isn´t Issa calling these suspicious vote result districts before congress> Because they´re scared of the media.

Instead of addressing the vote fraud,they´ll reach out to hispanics young people tax increasers and the like.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 11/17/2012 7:27:39 AM     (No. 9020083)

If you haven´t taken a course in Statistics in college, the article might not make sense; however, as others here have pointed out, there are nuggets of truth in the article that make sense without the statistics.

It bothers me that the GOP is not fighting for recounts and some investigation into counties where there was more voting than there were voters.

Before the 2014 and 2016 elections, there must be voter ID laws in place in as many states as possible. The GOP must make that their mission. No more Mr. Nice guys, or reaching across across the aisle. I, for one, don´t want them making any deals with the Demrats because it will ultimately hurt me and mine.

Answer to the question in the headline: Hell yes! He has done that all his life.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: BirdsNest, 11/17/2012 7:45:50 AM     (No. 9020109)

Voter ID is key.
There were scores of folks signing people up to vote at the grocery stores, just sign the document, no need to show any ID at all, they filled out the form for you. In several weeks time the voter card was mailed. Never showed any form of ID whatsoever. At that time the migrants were still here, wonder how many of them signed up and then voted absentee?? In years past we were asked for ID at the polls, not this year.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mgwitt, 11/17/2012 8:05:46 AM     (No. 9020145)

I have said this on numerous post. Where is the republican outrage from republican leaders?
Maybe the republicans are done because of their lack of caring except for themselves.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Muguy, 11/17/2012 8:09:40 AM     (No. 9020148)

Photo ID is the only way to prevent this from happening. As long as the media and the courts claim this is racist or disenfranchising, we will continue to see fraud.

Its always been a fascination how more people can vote than are registered.

While I believe there to be widespread cheating, there is no verifiable way to prove it, and we just got beat because we aren´t going to be giving away any goodies like our opposition.

Like it or not, it just boils down to that.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Davids918, 11/17/2012 8:12:24 AM     (No. 9020154)

And heard he received 100% of the vote in 59 districts withing Philly. Imagine, not even 1 vote for Romney?

We should keep presenting these points as it will clearly start the process of undermining the legitimacy of his "win".

As far as ID, sure, but better yet, finger print technology. We have data base, and the means, so let´s use it.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 11/17/2012 8:27:22 AM     (No. 9020181)

#9, don´t depend on Issa. He´s is just a distraction, a part of the Washington Grand Kabuki that keeps the peasants entertained. Issa has had "investigations" going for years. Nothing ever happens. What are his results? Well, let´s see: no charges brought against anyone, no one referred to any court and no resignations. In short, no results. Zero.

On second thought, there is one result and it happens to be the one intended. Issa gets to look like he´s busy doing something for the sheep - unless the sheep look to closely. DC is totally dysfunctional at every level and there is no way it can ever be fixed.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: gasmeterguy, 11/17/2012 8:42:10 AM     (No. 9020219)

The Republican leaders should be outraged. They should be screaming to high heaven. Why are they silent?

Ans: The Republican leaders are in full agreement with the liberals.

The difference lies within the pace of our transformation to Socialism. The democrats want to wake up tomorrow morning in a socalist nation while the Republicans are willing to wait until next week.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 11/17/2012 8:43:27 AM     (No. 9020222)

Certainly not! Obama didn´t cheat in the election, nor did he get anything less than A+ in his very hard college classes. His election victory reflects the widespread confidence of Americans for their historic President, reaching 100% in the most enlightened (not to mention cool) districts.

No small credit belongs to Joe Biden´s beartrap-like grasp of foreign conditions and ability to express them when it counts, and to the serenity of a glamorous and elegant first lady who was beloved by all on first sight.

-What Juan Williams might say... if he wasn´t prewired for immediately offended mode.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Newtsche, 11/17/2012 8:44:04 AM     (No. 9020226)

Where´s that army of GOP lawyers we heard about, the ones poised to charge in where necessary should the election turn flaky?

I´d love a Hollywood ending to this, these same lawyers are lining up there ducks, ready to blow the lid off this before the election is certified. It would tear the country apart, big time. Just what the doctor ordered.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Newtsche, 11/17/2012 8:44:42 AM     (No. 9020228)

"their"....jeez.



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Reply 18 - Posted by: peggythepatriot, 11/17/2012 8:55:48 AM     (No. 9020252)

DuH!!!!!!!!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mbdexp, 11/17/2012 8:56:09 AM     (No. 9020254)

Voter ID won`t solve the problem. Early voting is the problem. To ensure a real count of votes, have to be only one day of voting with electronic monitoring of electors. With today`s technology is not hard to have all precincts connected to a main computer. Once a person is presenting an ID at one precinct, automatically is cleared at all of them.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/17/2012 9:00:15 AM     (No. 9020269)

This is a good place for someone like Trump to put his money where his big mouth is. I have a feeling people in power and those close to them, on both sides, don´t want know. The way SCOTUS would not touch the birth certificate issue with a ten foot pole.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: JAN, 11/17/2012 9:05:37 AM     (No. 9020275)

Have family in Ohio, Florida and Colorado.

Knew instantly on election day morning that the vote was being stolen.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: Leshno, 11/17/2012 9:08:19 AM     (No. 9020285)

There are voter ID laws in Michigan and Obama won handily. A volunteer where I voted in Michigan actually apologized for having to ask for ID. Of course I assured her it was no problem and I was more than happy to oblige. She then informed me that the law was unfair and even sighted an example of the "unfairness" to me. Needless to say, I was unswayed and voted a straight Republican ticket. I am still annoyed!!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 11/17/2012 9:10:17 AM     (No. 9020289)

There is one reason and only one that we can´t do anything about this fraud. But I´d like to think we could at least impeach his white half.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: strike3, 11/17/2012 9:37:48 AM     (No. 9020330)

Aside from the vote fraud, he´s unqualified to lead this country and he has proven it thoroughly. Even his puppet masters realize by now that they have a wooden dummy at the ends of those strings, they just don´t care because they "won."

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Reply 25 - Posted by: K.I.S.S., 11/17/2012 9:41:09 AM     (No. 9020341)

WHAT IS THE RNC DOING ABOUT THIS?
Answer: NOTHING!!!! The RNC and their RINO´s have decided that sacrificing Romney´s Presidential WIN is worth it if they can destroy the Conservative control on the Republican Party.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: nonsense, 11/17/2012 9:42:53 AM     (No. 9020349)

When the Obama team said "by any means necessary" they meant it. Unlike all the other lies they told.

Axelclod and ValJar will forever be known as the most politically criminal team the nation has ever seen.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Avogadra, 11/17/2012 9:47:48 AM     (No. 9020359)

Please quit talking about abolishing early voting. You may as well try to abolish the drive-thru window at restaurants. For people who have full schedules, for people who are physically unable to wait on line for long periods, and for people without easy transportation to the polls, early voting is a godsend. Once people experience it, it becomes almost impossible to make them give it up.

Conservatives are smart. Surely they can figure out a way to preserve early voting while at the same time preventing vote fraud. (And what is keeping Republicans from taking nursing home residents to the polls to do early voting???)

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 11/17/2012 10:00:41 AM     (No. 9020389)

Articles like this make all the pain come back. Many of us are still trying to deal with it.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: nina584, 11/17/2012 10:01:04 AM     (No. 9020390)

Time for a new party.One that will fight this fraud not one that keeps looking for excuses as to why they lose.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: northeast, 11/17/2012 10:01:42 AM     (No. 9020392)

Ur 100% correct 15. By the way where was Palin and the tea party?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: LanieLou, 11/17/2012 10:11:52 AM     (No. 9020415)

Purple thumbs. Banks & other businesses use fingerprints. Even absentee ballots can have a post it covered spot to add a fingerprint.

When questioned about the St Lucie huge discrepancy in registered voters & votes counted, a FL house member told the news that they´d register the fish under a bridge if they could. This will not stop.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: chicubby, 11/17/2012 10:23:17 AM     (No. 9020441)

# 29 I always early vote. That doesn´t make it right. Some states start in early October. The debates haven´t even started. I think early voting should be abolished. Absentee ballots should only go to true shut-ins, military and ex-pats. No exit polling should be allowed to be broadcast and no results until every state has finished voting and is counted completely. Media does their best to sway the vote by giving results immediately. Needless to say, voter ID is a must.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 11/17/2012 10:38:21 AM     (No. 9020470)

Don´t sweat it, folks. I hear that Dan Rather is on that St Lucie vote discrepancy story.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: stablemoney, 11/17/2012 10:40:09 AM     (No. 9020473)

Forget about the polling. A statistical sample of actual ballots should be taken and those votes verified with the voter, and voter registration lists. If a large number are fraudulent (95% were wrong in the St Lucie County sample), then the election results should be overturned.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 11/17/2012 10:41:54 AM     (No. 9020477)

What are you doing about it No. 27? I sent Allen West $100 for his recount fight.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/17/2012 11:15:53 AM     (No. 9020533)

I am no big fan of polls, but in what other instance have the polls been so universally wrong? Something stinks.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: heartlandconservative, 11/17/2012 11:24:30 AM     (No. 9020547)

#32, Palin and the Tea Party were told in no uncertain terms that they were not wanted, except to show up and vote as instructed. We will survive Obama, what we may not survive is the cowardice of the American People.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: mikkins2, 11/17/2012 11:52:48 AM     (No. 9020600)

#´s 27 and 32 have Bingo!

Matter of fact the only guy fighting the fraud, and by the way the sanctity of your vote, is a Tea Party candidate, Allen West.

Anyone still supporting the Republican Establishment is as guilty as they are for not defending your vote. So quit your whining. You demand to be led by people who will not defend your rights. You are the cause of the problem.





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Reply 39 - Posted by: rambo77, 11/17/2012 11:53:11 AM     (No. 9020602)

#39 makes a very good point. Until we Americans grow whatever it takes to stand up to the voting organizations, we shall continually be nothing but dirt under the feet of the controlling politicians who push the elections any way they wish. And, until that happens, we might as well just lay back and enjoy the dirt we are being dealt. Voter IDs are the only way to go along with the purple thumb and a red "X" on your nose!!

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Reply 40 - Posted by: mikkins2, 11/17/2012 11:57:11 AM     (No. 9020615)

Correction- I meant to refer to # 39. Not #32.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: judy, 11/17/2012 4:35:52 PM     (No. 9020997)

Romney won!!!!!

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Reply 42 - Posted by: judy, 11/17/2012 4:43:23 PM     (No. 9021002)

Only in Florida could a dem receive 72,159 more votes than possible. Hey dense repubs this means 100% voted plus 72,159 extra....impossible....and the sad part is the so called repub party did not stand with West. Time for a third party....

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President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Glen Campbell has been
moved into a facility

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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 4/17/2014 6:58:48 PM     Post Reply
Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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