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Jindal: End Dumbed-Down
Conservatism

Politico, by Jonathan Martin

Original Article

Posted By:forward, 11/13/2012 1:26:09 PM

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich...(snip) “It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments — enough of that,” Jindal said. “It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party.


Comments:
Jindal sounds like he intends to take a shot at 2016 - offering himself as non-white and non-stupid. Hmm, ok...

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Drive, 11/13/2012 1:28:30 PM     (No. 9011650)

Dummies like Akins, maybe who should keep their mouths shut.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: nimby, 11/13/2012 1:30:56 PM     (No. 9011657)

"we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

Seriously Governor?? Here is one for ya--No one is insulting the intelligence of the voters. We are just underestimating their stupidity.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 11/13/2012 1:38:04 PM     (No. 9011682)

Jindal. Have you ever heard of Joe ´bizarre comments´ Biden? He was just re-elected to office for another four (oh, the pain) years.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: unagator, 11/13/2012 1:39:33 PM     (No. 9011685)

...and start talking now about how inflation helps banks and Wall Street at the expense of the middle class.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: altoona, 11/13/2012 1:39:56 PM     (No. 9011686)

Et tu, Jindal?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jimmyfoxhound, 11/13/2012 1:41:33 PM     (No. 9011689)

Intelligence of the American people??? Bahahhaaa thanks Bobby I needed a laugh. We are witnessing the result of decades of govt education. People are now too stupid \ lazy to work and provide for themselves. They see the govt as the provider of their every need. They still blame Bush for the economy. THESE are your "intelligent Aerican voters".. you can have them.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: The Slammer, 11/13/2012 1:42:20 PM     (No. 9011692)

Every election, there is a faction of the Republican Party that insists on dragging out the abortion issue. This election, that practice cost the GOP dearly.

It´s time the Republicans stopped raising abortion as an issue. It´s time to move on. Roe v. Wade will NEVER be overturned. Abortion will never again be illegal. So why keep dragging this dead corpse out every election cycle?

Time to move on and get that abortion ball-and-chain from around the ankle of the Republican Party. Abortion is a no-win issue.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/13/2012 1:44:24 PM     (No. 9011694)

Jindal is not a natural born citizen. He was born here of non citizen parents. He is of the anchor baby citizen status.
How about we take back the schools and stop dumbed down generations of future voters?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: forward, 11/13/2012 1:51:43 PM     (No. 9011707)

Re #8, it gets tricky, I think Jindal was born on US soil to parents who were "permanent legal" but not yet full US citizens. Marco Rubio is similar.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/13/2012 1:54:15 PM     (No. 9011715)

Jindal, Rand Paul, Rubio....this is what we have for conservatives? All willing to take advise from the dems. I am done with politics. Why bother.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: tisHimself, 11/13/2012 1:54:27 PM     (No. 9011716)

There were candidates during the primary who presented ideas and articulated a positive conservative vision for the future. They consistently drew crowds and did well in early polling. So the message was there.

And then it was drowned out by negative presentations and a disingenuous but well funded campaign that did insult the intelligence of potential voters.

Jindal is right and understands where this movement must go next.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: whiskey, 11/13/2012 1:55:25 PM     (No. 9011718)

I do think a lot of Repubs talk down to voters. They also talk down to Repubs that don´t fit the "old-school" model.

We need to stop letting the north-east establishment, well-mannered types run the party.

It hasen´t been working for some time now.
Did it ever?

What is it about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Kurto, 11/13/2012 1:57:08 PM     (No. 9011720)

Jindal should resist parroting liberal media chatter, and he should do some thinking of his own. It is clear that the presidency was claimed by more TAKERS than MAKERS, period.

Any GOP effort to sway TAKERS with handouts will disperse the base, and TAKERS will stay with demonRATS for more comprehensive handouts.

Bottom line. Romney would have won, if the 3,000,00 Republicans who didn´t vote would have pried their lazy asses off the couch.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: Davids918, 11/13/2012 1:58:44 PM     (No. 9011722)

It´s true.
#7, Catholics still voted overwhelmingly for Obama and Democrats, so if you can´t get Catholics on-board with the abortion issue then you might as well leave it alone which is what most Catholics actually do.

Need to frame all issues into economic issues.
We can support unions, but ask the unions where does the money come from to pay for the wages and benefits?

Ask those who would benefit from oil and natural gasoline development why they´re allowing the Democrats and EPA from preventing you from the tax revenues that would help pay for teachers, police and firefighters?

Stop with defending tax-cuts for the top 1-2% and give it to the Dems.

If it doesn´t produce the desired revenues, then we can attack their failed plan.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: Italiano, 11/13/2012 2:00:24 PM     (No. 9011725)

Dumbed-down liberal/leftism is working out just great, isn´t it? Republicans will never win by trying to out-pander Democrats. Entitlement junkies will always stick with the original, and the targets for the phony "reach out" programs are and always will be entitlement junkies when the chips are down.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 11/13/2012 2:03:14 PM     (No. 9011729)

The tax issues needs to be framed differently too. Calling for an income tax cut when barely half are paying anything did not resonate. Just simplifying the tax code may win-over more voters than anything else.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Dixie, 11/13/2012 2:07:47 PM     (No. 9011736)

Jindal is plenty smart enough to be a good President, but he´s way too short to get elected.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: yuban, 11/13/2012 2:09:19 PM     (No. 9011738)

So sad that the GOP now does not care what their candidate thinks of abortion, gay marriage etc. I am sticking with the "old school" thought process of morality, principles and the Bible. Win or lose, I keep my faith.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: maggie2u, 11/13/2012 2:17:41 PM     (No. 9011746)

...It´s time the Republicans stopped raising slavery as an issue. It´s time to move on. Slavery will NEVER be overturned. Slavery will never be illegal. So why keep dragging this dead corpse out every election cycle?

Time to move on and get that Slavery ball-and-chain from around the ankle of the Republican Party. Slavery is a no-win issue.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: Rakasha, 11/13/2012 2:19:57 PM     (No. 9011748)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life - unless your mother chooses otherwise, Liberty - unless someone else is offended by it and the pursuit of Happiness - as long as you aren´t any happier than anyone else.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: altoona, 11/13/2012 2:21:34 PM     (No. 9011749)

Catholics voted 47% for O and 46% Romney.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: kono, 11/13/2012 2:22:40 PM     (No. 9011752)

Jindal´s exhortation is fine, if one assumes the way Republicans present themselves or pitch their message is the main problem. The way the enemedia distorts almost everything in favor of the Democrat side has a lot more to do with the general public´s perceptions.

(Even if Jindal were able to present himself as the most intelligent, articulate, competent, and trustworthy candidate, the MSM would still largely caricaturize him as a stupid, pro-rich, anti-woman, anti-poor, racist.)

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Reply 23 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/13/2012 2:27:45 PM     (No. 9011756)

Stupid is our party getting all twisted up in knots about 2016 NOW. Jindal was trying to get down to the basics and jerk some sense into this dilapidated, intellectually lazy Republican Party.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: bogeegolf, 11/13/2012 2:28:00 PM     (No. 9011757)

Oh sure let´s rip our own party and candidates some more and play nice to those across the aisle that pelt us with their total insanity each and every day. I think it is time for gloves to come off.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/13/2012 2:29:44 PM     (No. 9011759)

...and #14, I know several Catholic priests horribly depressed at how many Catholics STILL voted for Obama.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 11/13/2012 2:47:38 PM     (No. 9011786)

Well, the priests haven´t helped matters much over the years, #25. Too much light comedy and kumbaya, not enough emphasis on explaining and promulgating doctrine.


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Reply 27 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 11/13/2012 2:52:48 PM     (No. 9011789)

When are we going to start talking about the dumbed-down, slavish Dems? The ones with their hands out, wanting to take from others; the people whom the Dem/Lefty leadership knows they can manipulate and cajole and rile with a few scary words like "work" and "pay your own way" and "there are not guarantees in life" and "buy your own dam* phone"?

We do have a problem with Repubs (or maybe indies who tend toward Repub) who can not be stirred from their cozy nests, the ones who say "it doesn´t matter."

For too long our side has allowed the "third-partiers" and "libertarians" to sacrifice the good on the altar of the UNATTAINABLE perfect. Perhaps we are far too tolerant.



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Reply 28 - Posted by: StormCnter, 11/13/2012 3:10:22 PM     (No. 9011817)

Thank you, Governor!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: forward, 11/13/2012 3:15:05 PM     (No. 9011825)

I can´t help but notice, the last two election cycles we all dreaded who the nominee was going to be, called him a RINO or non-conservative, and guess what - he lost. To a raging liberal "of color" with the middle name of Hussein!

I also don´t think it is a coincidence that the last time we nominated someone with bona fide conservative views and track record, someone who usually made it very plain what he stands for and what he doesn´t - guess what. We won, twice in a row. I know GWB was not conservative enough for some on here, and his economic team could have done more to prevent or lessen the start of the economic collapse of 2008-2009. But I think history is judging him too harshly now and the bottom line is, the presidency is all or nothing, you either win the election or you lose. Our track record has been better when we put forth a nominee who is plain-spoken and solid about conservative values. It is very possible to state "I am pro life" without flinching, AND just leaving it that far. Not going too far and barking about rape and incest. Frankly I miss Bush-Cheney every damn day, compared to what we have now.



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Reply 30 - Posted by: save America, 11/13/2012 3:18:46 PM     (No. 9011832)

Jindal is one of those anti America Rhodes Scholars.Everyone told me I was wrong but here he is along with his fellow scholars,SUSAN RICE,BILL CLINTON,ROBERT REICH,RACHEL MADOW,CORY BOOKER,GEORGE STEPANOPOLIS,FRANKLIN RAINES,MICHEL KINSLEY and many more.Get the picture?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 11/13/2012 3:20:25 PM     (No. 9011834)

Actually, #7, Romney did not campaign on abortion. He was all about the economy.

He lost.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 11/13/2012 3:27:28 PM     (No. 9011850)

Thank you 19

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Reply 33 - Posted by: gesundheit, 11/13/2012 3:52:09 PM     (No. 9011911)

Everyone who believes in Conservative principles also believes that after the re-election of anti-capitalist, socialized-medicine-loving, taxing-and-spending Barack Obama and the Democratic Senate, the economy will collapse.

Just as everyone who believes in the principle of gravity also believes that if someone jumps out of a plane without a parachute, he will crash into earth.

There´s nothing Republicans can do now but wait until things get so bad that even the stupidest voters will be willing to walk through broken glass to return them to office so they can clean up Obama´s multi-term reign of incompetence.

In the meantime, we can continue to watch the inevitable decline and fall of the MSM, already being speeded up post-election, evidenced by the firing of many news employees in anticipation of the burdens of four more years of failed Obamanomics.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: 4Justice, 11/13/2012 3:58:44 PM     (No. 9011941)

He’s right. We shoot ourselves in the foot every year. We don´t do anything to change public perception of who we are. BTW, the party was NOT charted to be a bible-thumping religious group. Yes, I understand the need for morality and decency and we should never give that up. But the party takes it too far. And making the entire party platform based on one or two issues, in the narrowest of definitions and where people don’t agree (especially considering scientific evidence), is just insane and stupid. Data proves that MOST instances of conception don’t make it all the way to term. In fact, even 30% of implanted eggs miscarry. And be honest, there is no sentience within dividing zygotes. So, why is it so imperative that we must lose ALL our power and our entire country just because some people insist that conception is the same as a complete, whole life (although evidence shows differently)? Is it more important to "be right" and lose all power, influence and ability to make things right? Or isn´t it better to make a small partial concession on something that you just might not be absolutely certain of and still have political viability to regain power and influence which you can use to improve and restore our once great country??? That is NOT the same as "going along and getting along" with Democrats--it is called being RATIONAL. Allow only early term, first trimester procedures, then use that political leverage to regain power and find ways to educate people so we can cut the total number of abortions to a fraction of what they are today. "All or nothing" will only get us NOTHING. Most is better.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: pickle1, 11/13/2012 4:19:32 PM     (No. 9011989)

Right Jindal. Play your politics

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Judith, 11/13/2012 5:05:36 PM     (No. 9012097)

Right after katrina, jindal was one of the first to jump on the bash Bush bandwagon and keep at it loooong after he should have known better. You could not tell the difference between him and the activist dems who blamed everything on Bush. I would not trust him after that.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 11/13/2012 5:42:32 PM     (No. 9012171)

#34, see #31.

In addition to abortion, Romney also did not campaign on Bible thumping . . .

or morality . . .

or religion.

He still lost.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: judy, 11/13/2012 7:17:39 PM     (No. 9012346)

Thanks Jindal, Jeb, Huckabee etc I will changing to independent along with 1000000000 others. Repubs are caving to the dems, so I´m out.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: msjena, 11/13/2012 7:48:13 PM     (No. 9012412)

Akin did make a really dumb comment. Mourdock, too, but not as dumb as Akin. Did the Republicans really tolerate Akin? Didn´t they cut off his funding?

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Reply 40 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 11/13/2012 8:09:26 PM     (No. 9012440)

I´ve got news for Jindal. Obama beat something with nothing. Also, if Jindal thinks he can escape any criticism because he is a minority and "smart," he´s sadly mistaken. The other side will smear him just like they do every Republican. If that doesn´t work, they´ll steal the election like they did this one.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: msjena, 11/13/2012 8:27:53 PM     (No. 9012460)

After the Democrats lost twice to Bush, they decided to move to the center and stop calling for taxes on the rich, abortion rights and gays in the military. Oh wait,they didn´t. In fact, they won with the most liberal candidate ever to win the office of President. The Republicans need to run a candidate with likeability and an uplifting message. Too bad they let the Sarah Palin brand be so damaged. Maybe Jindal can do it. Or maybe Rubio. Or maybe someone we haven´t yet thought of.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 11/13/2012 10:50:23 PM     (No. 9012660)

Cross Jindal off the list. I heard he was OK, but now he opens his mouth and validates some the leftwing propaganda about "communicating inclusiveness". Get this, it´s about race and Free Stuff. I can´t do a reverse Michael Jackson, OK? I´m not getting a sex change operation, I´m not going to medical school to learn how to do abortions. Imitation Democrats will always lose to real Democrats.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 11/14/2012 3:36:52 AM     (No. 9012894)

Ah, the Harvaard Brahman has spoken. Ever heard this arrogant little puke try to give a speech?

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, criticized last year by a Vatican official for her support of abortion, received a rosary Tuesday from President Obama that was blessed by Pope Francis. Mrs. Pelosi told reporters of the president’s gift after having lunch with Mr. Obama at the White House. The president met with the pope last week at the Vatican. “I was happy to receive a rosary blessed by Pope Francis,” she said. “It means a great deal to me.” Last year, a Vatican official in Rome said that Mrs. Pelosi should be denied communion. “This is a person who obstinately,

5 Reasons Why Republicans
Should Say No to Jeb 2016

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Daily Beast, by Myra Adams    Original Article
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With Chris Christie in deep trouble, Republican poobahs are reportedly looking to Jeb Bush to save their party in 2016. The former two-term governor of Florida speaks fluent Spanish, is a convert to Catholicism, and has high name recognition. Jeb could raise millions of dollars over night by just saying “yes” to running. Despite all this, there are strong reasons Republicans should say no to him. 1. His last name is poison. Let’s face it, if Jeb Bush had the last name of Something Else he would have already run for president in 2008 or 2012. According to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll registered voters were asked if they would definitely NOT vote for Jeb Bush and 50 percent said they would not.

GM Recall Scandal Goes
Straight to the White House

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Joel B. Pollak    Original Article
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New General Motors CEO Mary Barra will testify before Congress Tuesday about why it took so long for GM to issue product safety recalls involving faulty ignition switches that caused air bags to fail in crashes, contributing to thirteen deaths. She will testify alongside David Friedman, the acting head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), who will be expected to explain why the government did not act sooner. They ought to be accompanied by former Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood, as well as "car czars" Steven Rattner and Ron Bloom, together with White House and Treasury officials who oversaw

Defense Secretary ´Looking´ at Banning
Tobacco Sales at Military Installations

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
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Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is "looking" at banning the sale of tobacco at military installations. According to one military publication, Hagel appears to support it. "As the Navy considers banning tobacco sales on all bases and ships, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel gave a strong endorsement of the review Monday, and suggested that he would be in favor of a ban," reports Stars and Stripes. “I don’t know if there’s anybody in America who still thinks that tobacco is good for you,” Stars and Stripes quotes Hagel as saying. “We don’t allow smoking in any of our government buildings. Restaurants, states, [and]

Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower
Quality Of Life Than Meat-Eaters

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CBS Local (Atlanta, GA), by Staff    Original Article
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Atlanta – Vegetarians may have a lower BMI and drink alcohol sparingly, but vegetarian diets are tied to generally poorer health, poorer quality of life and a higher need for health care than their meat-eating counterparts. A new study from the Medical University of Graz in Austria finds that vegetarians are more physically active, drink less alcohol and smoke less tobacco than those who consume meat in their diets. Vegetarians also have a higher socioeconomic status and a lower body mass index. But the vegetarian diet — characterized by a low consumption of saturated fats and cholesterol that includes increased intake

Harry Reid Now Spreading Baseless Claim
that Koch Brothers Don´t Pay Corporate Taxes

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Weekly Standard, by John McCormack    Original Article
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Senate majority leader Harry Reid has a whole page on his official Senate.gov website devoted to revealing "THE FACTS ABOUT THE KOCH BROTHERS." One of the alleged facts promoted on Reid´s website is that the Kochs do not pay any corporate taxes: “They are known for bankrolling conservative, Libertarian and Tea Party causes and became poster boys for corporate tax reform last year when an Obama Administration official suggested Koch is organized as an S Corp. and so pays no corporate level taxes.” The claim that the Koch brothers don´t pay corporate income taxes was first made by former White House official

Hobby Lobby 401(k) invests
in birth control makers

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Associated Press, by Sam Hananel & Judy Ausuebel    Original Article
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Washington - The company leading the legal challenge against birth control coverage under the new health care law offers its workers a retirement plan that includes investments in companies making contraceptive and abortion drugs. Hobby Lobby Stores Inc. has a 401(k) plan featuring several mutual funds investing in pharmaceutical firms that produce intrauterine birth control devices, emergency contraceptive pills and drugs used in abortion procedures, according to Labor Department documents and a review of fund portfolios. (Snip) “This is the height of hypocrisy,” Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Action Fund, said in a


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