As 17-year-old Daniel Joseph walked through an open space park near his Centennial home before school last April, he felt a stinging pain in his leg. “I didn’t even hear a rattle until two or three feet until it passed,” said Joseph. A rattlesnake bit him twice. (Snip)His father, John, then received medical bills totaling about $43,000 for the six hours in the emergency department. “If you’ve got 30 to 40 percent of the people who pay nothing, the people who do have some ability to pay pay a lot more to cover the other guys.”
Comments: Not to worry, though. It´s "free" under Obamacare. /s off/
"Earnest says estimates of the people who use ER services but cannot afford to pay runs between 30 and 70 percent". I would say its more like 70% of the people going to ER do not have insurance. They will be carrying their free cell phones to call the ER and call their family and friends also!! The other 30% will be paying for the rest of the country. Thanks to Obamacare
´´His son received six vials of the crotalidae anti-venom and was billed $34,025.88 for that portion of his treatment, or nearly $6,000 per vial. But the same anti-venom can be found selling wholesale for about $1,000 to $2,000.´´
hospital rep says ER prices are high in part because they have access to all the diagnostic facilities at a hospital.
Walk-in clinics with nurse practitioners are going to be our future. betcha...
An insurance company often (usually) negotiates those bills way down. Under Obamacare, when young people all drop insurance policies because they do not wish to pay for the bells and whistles of an unaffordable government-approved policy will have to negotiate on their own.
Hey isn´t the park. "an attractive nuisance"? I think the city is at fault here. Don´t they have the responsibility of providing a safe place to walk? The city´s insurance should pay. If this were your property, you would be held accountable. I wonder if there were signs stating "Watch out for Rattlesnakes"? I´m not big on lawsuits, but the city should step up and pay the hospital bills.
Ever hear of medical insurance which definitely covers emergency care. Otherwise, who else is to pay for his son? Me?, You?
Costs are so high because non-insured people, legal and illegal, use the E-room as their primary care provider for coughs, bruises and sniffles.
Easy solution...allow all those with insurance to the head of the line. The uninsured with not life-threatening injuries will just have to wait. If there is a two-day wait, they may just leave or stop coming.
Furthermore, in my experience, if one has a personal physician and the injury occurs during their working hours, the doc will see a patient pronto.
Sounds like a lot of people either do not have insurance and/or a primary physician. That is their fault not the rest of us who take responsibility for their own health care.
Under obamacare, those that pay nothing will still pay nothing. People who pull their own weight will pay what they did before, plus all the overhead that goes to satisfying the obama rules, plus pay for S. Fluke´s contraception.
I have insurance just for emergencies and still get slammed. $2,500 deductible for doctors out of network. Like I am going to stop treatment during an emergency and check that the doctor is on my plan. Next you are asked to sign papers while still in a panic. The ones that say you will pay the difference between hospital´s price and insurance´s negotiated price. I have medical personal in family that told me true cost is only 10%. Saying they charge more to cover uninsured is lie. They charge $1000, real cost $100. Insurance pays $800, you pay $200. $900 profit.
Not really true, #18. I spent over 40 years in the insurance business and two years on a hospital foundation board. The reason you pay ten bucks for an aspirin is that the three illegals in front of you used the facilities and never paid the hospital a dime. The last year I served, the hospital had over 50 million dollars in uncompensated care. Admittadly, they count the difference in what insurance company allows them and what they charge as uncompensated but the big part is those who pay nothing. Half of our maternity births that year were to hispanic parents and a majority paid nothing. They use fake credentials and you can´t even find them to garnish their wages. They think it should be free anyway just like the deadbeat Democrats they vote for.
The Hill-Burton Act states that they must be treated. If hospitals were making a bundle on their ER´s they would not be closing them all over the country.
There are many reasons our health care is so expensive. Here are some of them:
1) Those who pay have to cover the cost of those who do not. 2) We all have to pay for the unlimited liability health care providers have if they make a mistake or if a patient can convince a jury they have made a mistake. 3) We have to pay for unneeded or marginally needed procedures, tests, and equipment doctors order as a CYA for number 2 above. 4) We have to pay for the research and development costs of both successful and unsuccessful drugs and equipment. 5) We have to pay for the huge waste associated with all medical procedures. Much expensive equipment is thrown away unused to prevent contamination or even the risk of the perception of contamination. 6) The AMA is a union and all health care professionals are effectively union workers. We pay for the medical equivalent of having union electricians change lightbulbs when we need to see a doctor for problems a nurse would be more than skilled enough to handle. There is no reason a nurse can´t give your kid antibiotics for an ear infection other than that the AMA has enough pull to prevent that. 7) We have to pay for the entire health insurance bureaucracy. 8) We have to pay for the entire liability insurance bureaucracy. 9) We have to pay salaries and benefits for highly trained and skilled medical professionals at all levels.
Well, call me a darn leech if you want...but sometimes people are between jobs and don´t have insurance because they didn´t have enough money to afford COBRA. I happened to get sick a couple of those times between jobs (which incidentally were not high paying jobs) and one time I had to have surgery. I thank the Lord and my county for having such a wonderful hospital system and for taking care of me when I was sick. I don´t want Obamacare, but I certainly am not for completely leaving all uninsured people without any help either. The problem is not necessarily being uninsured...but rather that most of those uninsured that go to the ER are here illegally. They should be in their home country getting healthcare there. Also, most of the illegals who go to the ER are no there with emergencies...that also creates a strain on the system, the costs and long waiting times. They go to the ER for every little thing. That is what small neighborhood clinics are supposed to be for. Still, illegals shouldn´t be using our services if they are uninsured in the first place...they should go home.
One more thing...what I do not understand is why is it that hospitals will not take partial payments or allow someone to make payments over time? You see, I offered to pay what I could (last time I was sick) and even offered to make payements. But they wanted $93,000 in TEN days!!! I didn´t have that kind of money. I had just started a new temp job. They suggested a friend or family member...No, I don´t know anyone with that kind of money. But can I make payments? No. That is just plain silly.
#6 touches on an important point - much of a medical bill reflects accounting methods and social choices. A minor portion is for the care and materials the patient required.
It is not an evil conspiracy, that accounting has to be done.
At the end of the day the hospital probably had spent about $2000 for the purchased anti-toxin and other materials.
In a Wonderland we could say the doctors and nurses ad cost nothing because they were there at the ER anyway. The lights were on whether any patients arrived so there was no electricity cost. etc, etc, etc.... without end.
In fact almost all that bill was about having medical care ready 24/7.
#20 and #21 add insights. The enormous costs are a social disease. But not an affliction of the venereal type which the medical profession can control.
No cure or control will be found at the clinic or hospital or drug manufacturer. Don´t blame them.
The ER probably sees one or two snake bites a year, but has to keep stocked with every type of antivenin. It is highly perishable. It costs the hospitals $millions so that the lights are on and the ER is staffed and they have unexpired medication on hand to save someone who stepped on a snake that carries a warning rattle.
Skiers and snowboarders searching for "the steep and deep" this winter may find the concept has taken on a much less appealing connotation: The price of the sport is getting so steep that some believe it may be becoming the exclusive domain of those whose pockets are exceedingly deep. "You have the haves and the have mores," said Douglas Quinby, principal analyst at PhoCusWright, which conducts market research on the travel industry. (Snip)Skiing, of course, has never been considered an inexpensive activity, but the sport has seen a significant upward shift in visitor demographics in recent years.
Denver - A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday. The order from administrative law judge Robert N. Spencer said Masterpiece Cakeshop in suburban Denver discriminated against a couple "because of their sexual orientation by refusing to sell them a wedding cake for their same-sex marriage." The order says the cake-maker must "cease and desist from discriminating" against gay couples. Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay
The newly-unveiled uniforms for the U.S. Olympic snowboarding team are star-spangled and red, white and blue — but they´re not made in America. The hodgepodge design, which designer Burton Snowboards says was inspired by a vintage quilt, features the faded colors of Old Glory and stars on the shoulder, base-layer henleys, hats and gloves. But like Ralph Lauren, which designed U.S. Olympic gear for the 2012 games in London, Vermont-based Burton is now defending its decision to use a global set of vendors to complete the job ahead of the Sochi Games, which begin on Feb. 7.
New York - Did stores shoot themselves in the foot? Target, Macy´s and other retailers offered holiday discounts in early November and opened stores on Thanksgiving Day. It was an effort to attract shoppers before Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving that traditionally kicks off the holiday shopping season. Those tactics drew bigger crowds, but failed to motivate Americans to spend. A record 141 million people are expected to shop in stores and online over the four-day Thanksgiving weekend that ends Sunday, up from last year´s 137 million, according to the results of a survey of nearly 4,500 shoppers
Janet Yellen moved one step closer to becoming the next chair of the Federal Reserve, after the Senate Banking Committee voted to move her nomination forward for a full Senate vote. The committee voted 14-8 to send Yellen´s nomination on for consideration before the full Senate. That vote on the Senate floor has not yet been scheduled, but is expected to occur in early December. Three Republicans joined Democrats on the committee in voting in favor of Yellen: Bob Corker of Tennessee, Mark Kirk of Illinois and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia was the only
LAS VEGAS — A U.S. Navy sailor told his high school sweetheart he wanted to marry her the moment he laid eyes on her after an 11-month deployment off the coast of war-torn Syria. Seaman Apprentice Dylan Ruffer got his wish Tuesday shortly after stepping off a plane at Reno-Tahoe International Airport. Ruffer and Madison Meinhardt, both 19, tied the knot just after midnight under a tulle-covered arch in front of the arrivals escalators. More than 200 invited guests, passengers and others looked on. "Seeing her for the first time, it was amazing," Ruffer told reporters. A reception followed
FORT COLLINS, Colo. — The Colorado healthcare exchange has processed applications for thousands of people … and one dog. Shane Smith, of Fort Collins, says his dog Baxter received a letter informing him that a health insurance account had been opened in his name through Connect for Health Colorado. “I thought, ‘Wow, this is so awesome,’” Smith said with a laugh. “They have gone out of their way to insure my 14-year-old Yorkie.” Smith had called Connect for Health Colorado to sign himself up for insurance because his old plan was cancelled due to Obamacare.
TIPTON, MO. (AP) - A Missouri high school football player who has been hospitalized with a brain injury since an October playoff game died Thursday, according to the school district´s superintendent. Chad Stover, a junior at Tipton High School, had been hospitalized in critical condition since Oct. 31, when he was taken off the football field near the end of the game and taken by ambulance to the hospital. He died at a hospital in Columbia, said Scott Jarvis, superintendent of the Tipton School District. Officials have not said how Stover, identified in multiple reports as 17 years old, was
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Tim Bowers loved the outdoors. Hunting gave him the quiet time during which he could reflect on a busy life that included a new wife, a successful business and a baby on the way. The Indiana man was enjoying that time while hunting for deer Saturday when he fell 16 feet from a tree and suffered a severe spinal injury that paralyzed him from the shoulders down. Doctors thought he might never breathe on his own again. Confronted with that prognosis, Bowers´ family made an unusual request of doctors at Fort Wayne´s Lutheran Hospital: Could Bowers be
LAX police and the federal Transportation Security Administration are reviewing protocols in the wake of the shooting Friday that left a TSA agent dead and several other people wounded. At a news conference over the weekend, TSA Administrator John Pistole said his agency´s review will include the question of whether its agents should be armed (they are not presently). “We will look at what our policies and procedures are and what provides the best possible security," he said. (Snip) Released in late 2011, the report by the panel set up by Villaraigosa´s administration noted that $1.6 billion had been spent Source spelled out by Staff.
Several noisy protesters interrupted President Obama’s health care reform rally in Boston on Wednesday afternoon, stopping the commander in chief’s speech dead in its tracks. The demonstrators shouted for Mr. Obama to “stop the pipeline” and to confront climate change, referencing the controversial Keystone XL pipeline project which the president must personally approve or deny. Pausing for a few moments, Mr. Obama then attempted to make light of the situation. “We’re talking about health care today … That is the wrong rally,” he said with a smile, telling the crowd he is in Boston to talk health care, not global
An uncle of the teenager accused of brutally murdering his Danvers High School math teacher and then dumping her body in the woods near the school said today his nephew is a “perfect kid” and he’s skeptical investigators have arrested the right person. “It’s not sinking in,” said Terence Chism Blaine, 40, reached by phone in Kentucky. “He’s a perfect kid. I’m thinking they are going to tell me it’s a crank anytime. I don’t believe he could get entangled in something like that with so much promise he had in his future.” (Snip) “They are saying ... that he
The question all week long was this: Who are you going to believe, an illegal alien or the president of the United States of America? Obviously, if it’s a president who once went by an alias, Barry Soetoro, you go with Uncle Omar, 100 percent, no questions asked. And so it was that the White House finally admitted to another, uh, misstatement — despite previous denials, Barack/Barry did sleep on his beloved Uncle Omar’s couch in Cambridge when he first moved here to attend Harvard Law School (speaking of which, we’re still waiting to see the president’s grades and his LSAT scores). But the
How do you get your arms around the catastrophe known as Obamacare? Is it even possible? At this point, I’m not sure it is. The list of individual disasters which threaten to ruin one-sixth of the U.S. economy and what has been, up until now, the best healthcare system in the world is exhaustive, and exhausting. The examples I will identify here barely scratch the surface. First but by no means foremost, we have the supposedly new and improved HealthCare.gov. Except it’s not, even the visible part. Stories still abound of people still failing to get in or to get through the enrollment
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has announced a new five-year strategic plan to improve safety for elderly drivers and passengers. Although they are statistically among the safest on the road, the number of older drivers is increasing dramatically — and with it, that group´s numbers of injuries and deaths. Since 2003, the population of older adults, defined as age 65 and older, has increased by 20% and the number of licensed older drivers increased by 21% to 35 million in 2012, according to NHTSA. Last year, NHTSA reported that 5,560 people older than 65 died and 214,000 were injured
A veteran Washington adviser who has worked for four Presidents on both sides of the political aisle said that the stunning Government Accountability Report report that found President Barack Obama has not had a one-on-one meeting with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius since the passage of Obamacare over three years ago is an indictment of the entire White House operation and shows that the Obama administration has bordered on "malfeasance." "I have no doubt the White House is right, that Secretary Sebelius was in several group meetings with the president about health care," Gergen caveated, "but the whole
President Barack Obama’s Facebook page on Saturday posted a message honoring the dead from Pearl Harbor—accompanied by a picture of Obama descending the stairs next to the Pearl Harbor Memorial. The picture barely fits the name of the Arizona Memorial so it can frame Obama in the foreground. The post´s statement reads: Today, with solemn pride and reverence, let us remember those who fought and died at Pearl Harbor, acknowledge everyone who carried their legacy forward, and reaffirm our commitment to upholding the ideals for which they served. President Obama The Obama Administration´s current shipbuilding plan shrinks the size of
Barack Obama did not tell the whole story this autumn when he tried to make the case that Bashar al-Assad was responsible for the chemical weapons attack near Damascus on 21 August. In some instances, he omitted important intelligence, and in others he presented assumptions as facts. Most significant, he failed to acknowledge something known to the US intelligence community: that the Syrian army is not the only party in the country’s civil war with access to sarin, the nerve agent that a UN study concluded – without assessing responsibility – had been used in the rocket attack. In the months before the attack,
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the hapless, goalpost-shifting so-called "architect" of Obamacare, told Fox News´ Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday that President Barack Obama´s promise "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" was absolutely true--with one important caveat: if you like your doctor, "you can pay for it." Wallace grilled Dr. Emanuel, challenging his false claims that California´s enrollment was keeping pace with the percentage of the young population necessary to keep the system afloat, and pointing out that the president´s promise on doctors would collapse once people lost their insurance or their
Just how much do many Hollywood liberals hate conservatives? In an interview with Playboy, Ben Affleck said, "When I watch a guy [on film] I know is a big Republican, part of me thinks, I probably wouldn’t like this person if I met him": PLAYBOY: You developed a political profile campaigning for presidential candidates Al Gore, John Kerry and Barack Obama. How did that come about? AFFLECK: I grew up in a house with a mother who was a teacher and a Freedom Rider—very left-wing Democrats living in a heterogeneous working-class neighborhood. I picked up a lot of those values there, and I
The U.S. isn´t called "America the Beautiful" for nothing. Each year, millions of tourists come from home and abroad to see the country´s majestic landscape and iconic sites, from the Grand Canyon to the Statue of Liberty. But there are also cool, quirky attractions, like Vermont´s Ben & Jerry´s Factory and Tennessee´s Graceland, the former home of Rock and Roll King Elvis Presley. From California to New York and everywhere in between, the country is chock-full of incredible attractions that keep luring in visitors. Here are the best tourist attractions in every state.
MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry opened her program over the weekend with a commentary about the Affordable Care Act’s colloquial moniker: “Obamacare.” She said that the word was originally created as a “derogatory term,” designed by white men as a way to delegitimize President Barack Obama and his achievement. However, she said that the term will soon be synonymous with all of Obama’s accomplishments and she urged her audience to use the term with pride. “I want to talk today about a controversial word. It’s a word that has been with us for years, and like it or not, it’s indelibly
Call me Grinch, call me Scrooge. Call me Lord Voldemort of the Yuletide. None could be worse than sending me a holiday card with glossy photographs of your lovely, smiling family. My wife, Emily, and I place your cards like trophies on our shelves, continuing an old-school practice that began about 175 years ago as a way of maintaining relationships as families and friends moved far and wide. Today’s cards may appear more personalized — with photos of spouses, kids and pets, and distribution lists much smaller than a sprawling collection of Facebook friends. But when I flip over the photo
Chris Matthews is crazy. Nevertheless, when left-wingers talk openly with one another, their craziness can be revealing. That is the case, I think, with this remarkable MSNBC clip. Matthews, fresh from his kneepad interview with President Obama, praises what he terms a uniquely brilliant insight by Al Sharpton: South Africa’s white politicians of the apartheid era were more patriotic than today’s Republicans: I haven’t heard anything as smart as what I heard Reverend Sharpton say a moment go in five years. The difference between the way F.W. de Klerk handled the need for change and the election – democratic election