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The GOP´s media cocoon
Politico, by Jonathan Martin

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/12/2012 1:04:03 PM

A long-simmering generational battle in the conservative movement is boiling over after last week’s shellacking, with younger operatives and ideologues going public with calls that Republicans break free from a political-media cocoon that has become intellectually suffocating and self-defeating. GOP officials have chalked up their electoral thumping to everything from the country’s changing demographics to an ill-timed hurricane and failed voter turn-out system, but a cadre of Republicans under 50 believes the party’s problem is even more fundamental.The party is suffering from Pauline Kaelism. Kael was The New Yorker movie critic who famously said

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/12/2012 1:15:19 PM     (No. 9009147)

First they steal the election.

Then they get you to abandon your principles as unpopular.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: GoPack, 11/12/2012 1:19:40 PM     (No. 9009162)

Please, nobody stole the election. My goodness, people have to accept reality if they want to change it.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 11/12/2012 1:23:31 PM     (No. 9009173)

Both the left and the right have their echo chambers. Of course, the right´s philosophy is correct. The key is understanding the facts of what´s actually occurring. Obviously the GOP didn´t get polling and GOTV correct. Let´s fix that and learn from it.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: attymitch, 11/12/2012 1:24:36 PM     (No. 9009177)

This is what passes for journalism these days? What the hell is he talking about?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 11/12/2012 1:47:53 PM     (No. 9009227)

Name: Jonathan Martin
Address: Media Cocoon

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Reply 6 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 11/12/2012 1:49:56 PM     (No. 9009229)

"If all you did was watch and read the conservative media, you were probably pretty shocked at what happened Tuesday."

I only know one person who voted for Obama...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: msjena, 11/12/2012 1:56:14 PM     (No. 9009241)

The polls showed it too close to call with Romney leading by 50% or more in Florida and Virginia. So it is understandable that people were surprised at Obama´s decisive win in the battleground states. It has nothing to do with a media cocoon.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: convert, 11/12/2012 2:00:14 PM     (No. 9009253)

Many points in this article are DEAD ON and refusal to listen to them will only prolong our misery. People like Donald Trump, Ann Coulter et. al. do not help the cause--Also Republicans can freely speak out for conservative positions on social issues...as long as they assure the public they are at heart libertarians ...because that is now the majority opinion. Repubs mistakenly think that because most people have real reservations about abortion and gay marriage and don´t support either one that they want to outlaw them....not true. Young people want no govt interference in what they see as "private matters" period.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: killerbee, 11/12/2012 2:12:16 PM     (No. 9009291)

#8: we don´t "muzzle" people, so I don´t see how Ann Coulter is going to be silenced anytime soon. As for the social stuff, that was brought up by the media who built strawmen on behalf of the Democrats. You get one Akin and he tars the entire GOP, thanks to the Democrat-promoting media.

The Democrats have a serial adulterer, serial sexual harasser, with a plausible accusation of rape against him campaigning for the most corrupt president we´ve ever had and the media cheers them on.

Add to that the massive and blatant fraud that happened in this election.

The game is fixed, it´s not our fault this time.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/12/2012 2:20:19 PM     (No. 9009311)

Hey, if the democrats don´t use fraud to win, why are they resistant to voter ID? I don´t believe they can win an election without it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Burger, 11/12/2012 2:25:59 PM     (No. 9009322)

This would be true if the Democrat Party engaged in deep soul searching after an election loss. But they don´t. This soul searching garbage is strictly a GOP construct. The GOP lost because of email filters? How brain dead is this?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: chance_232, 11/12/2012 2:27:01 PM     (No. 9009323)

I have to agree with the article´s premise. Just look at the sources we post here. Most of it comes from right of center outlets.

We need to read and watch more or what the other side thinks. Not because they are right, or that they will convert us ...... but to understand what the MAJORITY is being exposed too. Otherwise, we wont be able to counter their arguments. And mocking them isnt a counter argument.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jorgecito, 11/12/2012 2:35:36 PM     (No. 9009345)

Forget Jonathan Martin, and all the other finger-pointers from both left and right.

#3 gets it right. The Romney loss was primarily due to the Obamaite´s superior GOTV effort.

The Obamaites cynically exploited the option of "early voting." Remember those articles about Dems bringing busloads of Somalians to early voting stations?

That´s exactly how the Obamaites got their plurality --by hustling thousands and thousands of questionable voters to polling places during the several weeks of "early voting" in key states.

And if Dems couldn´t bus certain groups (e.g. prisoners and insane asylum inhabitants), they sent teams of paid campaigners to "bring the vote" to people in institutions.

It doesn´t matter to Dems that their victory rests on the votes of illiterate Somalians; "homeless" Americans who were bribed with cigarettes; felons and insane asylum inhabitants; and clueless college kids bribed with beer and pizza. A win is a win is a win.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: surgedr, 11/12/2012 2:36:46 PM     (No. 9009350)

Obama is a cult figure and he only has another term. After that, the Dems will be looking for a new cult figure...won´t be Hillary and it won´t be Biden...look for the Democrats to start grooming someone quickly.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: slrobi, 11/12/2012 2:55:44 PM     (No. 9009391)

Jonathan Martin is part of the media who slandered our good candidates ~ so to me, he is pond scum.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: unagator, 11/12/2012 3:01:17 PM     (No. 9009402)

It´s a valid point that plenty of conservative pundits are well passed their "sell by" date and seem primarily interested in schlepping their latest book filled with SHOCKING REVELATIONS.

Both parties face big challenges in four years. It would be nice to see conservatives start thinking ahead and start frontrunning issues (Hello Inflation!) instead of agonizing over the last battle.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: unagator, 11/12/2012 3:02:38 PM     (No. 9009403)

Oops..."well past" not "well passed".

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Reply 18 - Posted by: neenbean, 11/12/2012 3:10:50 PM     (No. 9009420)

Yep...they won and over 1/2 of the 52% will be going on a part time job!

Have fun!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 11/12/2012 3:32:46 PM     (No. 9009448)

Johnathan is correct in one sense. There are certainly media cocoons and they are populated by both left and right. The pundits who live in the big media centers...NYC, DC, LA tend to argue and write for each other. Someone writes a column then someone on the other side responds to it point by point not realizing that the rest of us have better things to do.

I read mostly conservative sites because those are the people I agree with. I don´t go to the left sites because they just hack me off. I would imagine it´s the same with the left´s viewers.

But he is dead wrong about most of us not listening to an opposing view. With the MSM hammering us daily with Democrat/Marxist propaganda it can´t be avoided.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: joebillbob, 11/12/2012 4:17:44 PM     (No. 9009500)

I just love how all these democrats keep giving us advice on how to win elections. Stupidest thing we could do is listen to them.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Malia2012, 11/12/2012 6:13:50 PM     (No. 9009712)

What #9 said. The "politico" is nothing but one more tentacle of the demonrat party. Have we in the GOP, sunk to the level of listening to anything put out there by "jonathan martin" and the rest of the bottom-feeding-sycophantic-knee-pad-wearing-obama-worshipping-leftists who scribble garbage daily? As in "shellacking"? "electoral thumping"? "suffering from Pauline Kaelism"? Seriously?? I hope not.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, 11/12/2012 6:51:14 PM     (No. 9009775)

It is not at all ironic that this is written by a former member of "Journolist."

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Reply 23 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 11/12/2012 6:54:44 PM     (No. 9009780)

I don´t get the posters who say we need to get rid of the Ann Coulters, Karl Roves, and other Republicans. If we don´t have enough people, including them, voting for our side, just tell me who is going to replace them? Blacks? Hispanics? Young people? Asians? Single women? Forget it. They seem to be firmly entrenched in the Dem party.

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