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Jerry Brown: California tax vote start of national tax hike sweep
Sacramento Bee [CA], by David Siders
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Posted By:NorthernDog, 11/11/2012 11:40:19 PM
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| Gov. Jerry Brown said in a television interview this morning that passage of his initiative to raise taxes has national implications, with California at the start of a broader movement to increase taxes on the rich. "Revenue means taxes, and certainly those who have been blessed the most, who have disproportionately extracted, by whatever skill, more and more from the national wealth, they´re going to have to share more of that," Brown said in a taped interview on CNN´s State of the Union with Candy Crowley. "And everyone is going to have to realize
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Comments: If you have disproportionately extracted from the national wealth (his words) you must share more of it. He should change his name from Brown to Red.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
bluefindad, 11/11/2012 11:44:47 PM (No. 9008173)
"From each, according to his ability. To each, according to his needs."
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
MissMann, 11/11/2012 11:46:45 PM (No. 9008177)
And no amount of history or experience that raising taxes suppresses growth will deter these "redistributors" from their mission!
The rest of us must pull a Willy Wonka: "stop, wait, come back..." to which none of them will listen.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bob913, 11/11/2012 11:53:24 PM (No. 9008183)
Jerry Brown never worked in any private job. His father was well off so Brown never had to worry about money.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DonQuijote, 11/12/2012 12:01:54 AM (No. 9008189)
So does this mean that Hollywooders will move out of the state? It would be interesting to see how many use addresses in other states.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
enemyofthestate, 11/12/2012 12:02:47 AM (No. 9008193)
Dream on, Moonbeam. If it´s Brown, flush it. The cliches from decades back live on.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rael, 11/12/2012 12:03:46 AM (No. 9008195)
I wish this idiot would just die already. He´s a spoiled rich kid who lived off of his parent´s millions, never EVER worked a day in his life, never EVER went without anything.
He is an evil evil man.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 11/12/2012 12:05:29 AM (No. 9008200)
You know that thing about California falling into the Pacific Ocean ? Can´t we somehow speed that up ?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Kurto, 11/12/2012 12:06:19 AM (No. 9008201)
Of course. Class warfare has prevailed, maybe. There are more takers than earners in CA. The majority is in favor of wealth redistribution. The sales tax increase will affect all, so it can not be avoided. But, the increased income taxes could bring negative results. Many high dollar earners are able to relocate outside CA and take their high incomes with them. Then, Moonbeam and the takers will get NONE of their income, instead of the current amount. If enough people do this, CA will have a net loss of revenue.
Who will be over-taxed next?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
janylou, 11/12/2012 12:15:07 AM (No. 9008208)
I imagine it won´t be long and we´ll have a whole new wave of people moving from CA to AZ. Liberals aren´t allowed!
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Mr. Hanky, 11/12/2012 12:15:28 AM (No. 9008209)
California, the start of States flushing their wealth down the toilet for the benefit of unions.
Kommiefornia Über Alles
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
iamtinman, 11/12/2012 12:20:36 AM (No. 9008214)
Translated: "We want to spend a lot more of your income on High Speed Rail (No trains or crew, just rails), increased tuition for our undocumented visitors, increased benefits for government employees etc. We´ll start with the rich because there are fewer of them and then work our way down the economic ladder. Be patient, we´ll get to everyone eventually." .
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
J Wayne, 11/12/2012 12:43:29 AM (No. 9008226)
Check this out, Moonbeam; I didn´t "extract" anything. I earned it. I´d add that I make more because I´m very good at my job after years spent learning it. I left your pathetic state as a young man seven years ago. I wanted to raise a family and didn´t want to fight your stupid laws and thieving tax code every step of the way. You get no taxes off of what is now a pretty handsome income.
I will be "going Galt" in the next 10 years (if we make it that long), and then you get nothing. I will relocate to a red state, pay cash, and shake my head as I watch your collapse from a distance.
The bums will always lose. Do you hear me Lebowski? The bums will always lose.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Axeman, 11/12/2012 1:03:01 AM (No. 9008233)
Depression, meet Hyperinflation.
Guns and gold, just sayin´.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
TexasAllTheWay, 11/12/2012 1:03:31 AM (No. 9008234)
I´m SO glad to live in Texas!! Moved here in 1971 from CA in a U Haul, 35 bucks in our wallet, never looked back..
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
BcdErick, 11/12/2012 1:13:08 AM (No. 9008237)
Take it from Gov. Moonbeam. Can you say detached from reality? The state is bankrupt. Property values are falling and more and more legal residents are moving to Colorado and elsewhere every year. And that´s the good news. At least three cities have declared bankruptcy. With many more to come.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Topic Thunder, 11/12/2012 1:26:07 AM (No. 9008242)
About 10 years ago, through an act of fate, I ended up standing right next to Jerry Brown in a meeting of the Board of the Port of Oakland. It was just before he became Mayor of Oakland.
I apologize to all here for my failure of nerve and a missed opportunity.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MissMann, 11/12/2012 1:46:26 AM (No. 9008248)
So, it is coming time to move out of California. So my question: do I move to Texas, where I can be among people of my kind, or to Virginia, where I can help conservatives re-take the majority?
Decisions, decisions...
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
kanphil, 11/12/2012 2:44:51 AM (No. 9008256)
"Disproportionately extracted from the national wealth". I´ll bet Jugears wishes he had thought of that one. He´ll probably steal it from Moonbeam and use it to write an executive order to take more of your money.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
4Justice, 11/12/2012 3:33:49 AM (No. 9008265)
The whacked out thing is that idiots like Jerry Brown think that earned income (salary) of 60,000/yr is "disproportionately blessed". Of course the cost of living in California is already one of the highest in the country. Stupid is as stupid does. I hope he sees a huge reduction of revenues (a la Laffer).
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
belwhatter, 11/12/2012 3:41:24 AM (No. 9008267)
It might be a good idea to start the fleecing with the Hollyweirders who demand and command astronomical sums for pretendig to be someone else.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
varkdriver, 11/12/2012 5:37:50 AM (No. 9008300)
#17, come on over here to the Old Dominion. We got plenty of room and a good solid conservative governor, Bob McDonnell. Unfortunately, somehow the electorate chose a complete idiot Tim Kaine as Senator, but we´ll have a chance to replace Mark Warner in 2014. I retired from the military here vs my home state of NJ and have been very happy.
This is a scary trend, though, but I think Moonbeam overstates the case. Calif is a state of unparalleled natural beauty, but with idiots in power there for years, it is going broke and broker.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 11/12/2012 5:53:43 AM (No. 9008306)
I find it ironic that financially conservative republican run states are in the black and ALL demonrat run states are in the red. There isn´t a demonrat anywhere who can´t think of some more wasteful spending. They keep doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results. Pfft.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
keekng, 11/12/2012 5:56:08 AM (No. 9008309)
We better not hear any grousing about high taxes from any Californians......They voted for him. He almost bankrupted the state during his last reign as governor, this time he has a running start.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Wetlandz, 11/12/2012 6:38:23 AM (No. 9008337)
I´m glad to see Hollywood taxes go up first and I seriously doubt they will get a clue as their revenues drop. Don´t plan to go to movies, concerts during this crisis.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
zoidberg, 11/12/2012 6:50:48 AM (No. 9008361)
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, a creed of ignorance, and a gospel of envy.
-Winston Churchill
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
noproblems, 11/12/2012 7:01:20 AM (No. 9008369)
he hoping that everfyone else raises taxes so that California residents wont leave for lower tax states.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
MarinMike, 11/12/2012 8:37:33 AM (No. 9008510)
5 years ago my quarterly sales tax payment to CA was 3000+, this past quarter 1300. Do the math Jerry I am (was) a one man biz.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
nonsense, 11/12/2012 8:40:21 AM (No. 9008517)
How perfectly communist of him. What you earn is not yours, it belongs to the nation state. You made it, but the takers are going to take it and there is not a thing you can do about it.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
stablemoney, 11/12/2012 10:10:28 AM (No. 9008744)
The main reason I hate liberals is they think everyone must do as they do. They are not really pro-choice.
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