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Winning the Future:
The Fiscal-Conservative Fantasy

American Thinker, by Selwyn Duke

Original Article

Posted By:DW626, 11/10/2012 5:48:38 AM

With the loss of the 2012 election, there is much talk of how the Republican Party must do some soul-searching. How will the GOP wage successful campaigns when demographic and cultural changes favor the opposition? Increasingly, the answer is that the party´s party is over, that it must move into the future or be relegated to the past. "Dispense with the social issues!" we´re counseled. "Don´t trouble over abortion or faux marriage and instead just focus on fiscal matters."

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: arkfamily, 11/10/2012 6:16:20 AM     (No. 9004501)

So we Americans who still believe in the work ethic, believe in our faith life, and believe in being good citizens are supposed to roll over and play dead? Just because the freebie and "gimme" society cheated to win.

Before being elected to Illinois Senate seat, the Obamas didn´t even know how to manage their finances. Now we Americans are to believe that he is the smartest man to get us out of this?

He wants us to believe that this economy was brought on by the previous administration but yet he doesn´t consider that the moment he started campaigning in 2008 to share the wealth, businesses responded accordingly.

I will not bend to the idea that we Republicans have to do something different. After all, it is this "gimme" society that will not have enough. It will be their undoing.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/10/2012 6:29:47 AM     (No. 9004514)

What these new wave republican "thinkers" don´t get is the fiscal problems are caused by the social meltdown. I mean when you have a mentally disabled woman getting raped on a pubic bus,isn´t that a signal the culture is in a meltdown?

How do we suddenly have 1 in 6 Americans on medicaid, a program designed for the poorest of the poor? Has medicaid expansion under Obamacare already started? This is all "social justice" related and we just re-elected a crook who will break the bank to impose it on everyone.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 11/10/2012 6:36:36 AM     (No. 9004520)

We´re told we must stop being the "values " party to attract more voters. But a big chunk of the base is there largely for that reason. You could not attract enough pro-abortion and pro-gay crowd to replace them.

Most of this advice on how Republicans must change boils down to having us be more like democrats. That´s a waste of effort. There are already lots of non voters who see little difference in the two parties.


Reply 4 - Posted by: scurfie, 11/10/2012 6:51:38 AM     (No. 9004538)

Ditto #3. I know that many of the voters who stayed home was because they saw no differences between the candidates. One was pandering to the left the other pandering to the rich.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Muguy, 11/10/2012 6:53:48 AM     (No. 9004546)

So the whole point is to just give in, give up, and realized that there is really no need to have a loyal opposition to out and out socialism.

The demonrats have given up all manner of propriety by giving out "goodies" to buy votes. and conservatives are tagged with taking away the things because using the largesse of government is morally uncacceptable.

I guess "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" has been turned into "where´s my freakin´ Obamaphone"!


Reply 6 - Posted by: JackBurton, 11/10/2012 7:37:50 AM     (No. 9004621)

Welcome to the frog boil. We´re going to get a lot worse but look where we already are:

$5 trillion in debt (you know this bill is coming due)

Massive regulations from the EPA, Dodd/Frank, ACA (Obamacare) increasing costs and shutting down businesses.

Worst recovery in 75 years (yes, it was a recovery but less satisfying than kissing your sister).

43 months of 8%+ unemployment (not much changed at 7.9%) which is 4 months more than ALL the months of unemployment over 8% logged from the beginning of FDR thru W´s temrs. But also, we´ve turned back the clock 30 years on labor participation rates. And this is before you calculate the loss when people are working but at 29 hrs/week or less because the benefits for full time are too pricey.

Look at who´s working. do they look old to you? Older people, more fiscally responsible, are keeping their jobs but that means we´re losing a generation.

Does that sum it up? Where we are now already reflects...

...change.


Reply 7 - Posted by: mgwitt, 11/10/2012 8:09:32 AM     (No. 9004655)

With the conservative loss in 2012, simply means everyone will suffer from a failing of America. Until that happens most are running around with blinders. When we run out of money and can´t borrow another dime reality will set in. Just look a at Europe. The end is near. Prepare as best as you can and pray.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Crosscut, 11/10/2012 8:16:41 AM     (No. 9004671)

These Obama voters will come around on their own when taxes soar, food stamps get cut, unemployment money runs out, unemployment approaches 50% in some areas, flash mobs start stealing, and robbing at will. People will be beaten and robbed in broad daylight. Washington Democrats will pay dearly in November 2014. It took the Democrats 200 years to destroy this country and it looks like they succeeded.


Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/10/2012 8:23:50 AM     (No. 9004688)

The Left´s primary and ultimate goal has always been to destroy the culture that breeds freedom and free men. Fiscal is just a by product. If you are fiscal conservative and a cultural ´moderate´, you are like a Jew selling Zyklon to the Nazis.


Reply 10 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 11/10/2012 9:02:06 AM     (No. 9004776)

Social conservatism and militarism make fiscal conservatism impossible to achieve. The Bush Big Government model gave us Obama twice now. If I have to pick between banning gay marriage, perpetual warfare, and less spending and lower taxes, I will pick the latter. You´re never going to get all three.


Reply 11 - Posted by: cgood, 11/10/2012 9:44:55 AM     (No. 9004887)

Conservatism did not lose this election and we are not past the point of no return. Democrats lied to win, more brazenly and with more media support than ever before. Republicans do not need to change their platform and start courting different ethnic groups. Republicans need to find a way to get their message out and bypass the corrupt media. Truth is a wonderful thing and as long as it gets heard, it will set us free.


Reply 12 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/10/2012 10:08:45 AM     (No. 9004951)

One thing is for sure, if the wimpy Republicans allow the liberal Democrats to morph 12-20 million illegal aliens into eventual new Liberal Democrat voters by way of "a path to citizenship" amnesty they will have committed what amounts to long-term political suicide, and will be unable to win national elections ever again.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: MDConservative, 11/10/2012 11:07:28 AM     (No. 9005098)

Hispanics (read Mexican and Central Americans) come from countries governed by strongmen, lived under constant threat of violence from gangs and the authorities, and did not come here to make a "better life"...that was a given once they crossed the border, legally or otherwise. Now they see another way...a benevolent government. They have no concept of economics. Those government EBT cards and the under the table cash for day work are just fine...much better than what they had. Taxes and fiscal responsibility are only flatus released in the wind. Quality of life is relative, and for most of the growing "Hispanic" community, life is just ducky as a vassal of the benevolent state.


Reply 14 - Posted by: chicodon, 11/10/2012 11:53:37 AM     (No. 9005212)

The more I think about just who is responsible for the demographic shift over the last 20 years, the angrier I get. It´s not just Democrats. Members of both parties are responsible. Anyone remember "they´re just doing the jobs that Americans won´t do"? This has been a conspiracy of the highest order brought to us by our friends of the New World Order.


Reply 15 - Posted by: dman, 11/10/2012 12:15:25 PM     (No. 9005250)

Simply supporting the need for a new political party - sans the Wall Street and Country Club types. We demand a party of our own. We may not be a majority party, but we will no longer have our voices suppressed.

There should be no majority parties. A multi-party system is now in order.



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