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Did voter turnout really
decline this time?

Investor's Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm

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Posted By:SurferLad, 11/9/2012 9:09:44 AM

You know how the overall voter turnout for this week's presidential election was disappointingly down so much over 2008? It's been all over online sites since Tuesday. Well, wait one. The friendly folks over at Public Opinion Strategies have crunched the numbers and come up with an interesting different view. It shows that while this year's total may be down, it's down nowhere near what all the democracy fretters are wringing their hands over. And they may actually end up very close.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/9/2012 9:20:43 AM     (No. 9002035)

We will never get to the bottom of it, but there were many irregularities in this election.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 11/9/2012 9:26:43 AM     (No. 9002058)

The problem is that we are comparing 2012 election night returns to 2008 final tally counts. The election is officially "certified" in December, at which time the real 100% numbers are in.

Wait until December, I'm betting the numbers will be real close to 2008.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Really?, 11/9/2012 9:36:09 AM     (No. 9002096)

I have lots of questions, but I doubt we'll get ANY answers.

For one...did the members of the military overseas get to vote ?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/9/2012 9:39:19 AM     (No. 9002106)

Some of those on the Internet who watch voter fraud, and believe me, it's the leftists too, if you read their sites, will cite cases of machines not just changing a vote from (R) to (D), but of "shedding" voters. If 10,000 vote on one machine, the machine might decide not to take some of the ballots with no indication why. Something is seriously wrong in America, and it starts at the local level. It's time for the majority Republican Governors to band together and force a common and rigid voting system and strategy before the 2014 tsunami.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: msctex1, 11/9/2012 9:42:09 AM     (No. 9002122)

Something is very wrong. If I were going to steal an election, I'd concentrate my efforts where they would be most effective. So look for discrepancies in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Florida. They wouldn't waste much time in Texas, for example, but all their moaning about the EC could well have been a diversion from their attempt to subvert it.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Melody, 11/9/2012 9:42:55 AM     (No. 9002124)

The numbers we need to know are of those who voted for president compared to those who voted for the other offices. Not everyone votes for all offices on the ballot.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: BarryNo, 11/9/2012 9:47:32 AM     (No. 9002143)

My job has me moving throughout my city, in poor neighborhoods, rich neighborhoods and in between. Voter turnout was high in Republican districts with enthusiasm for making Obama a one term loser. In Poor neighborhoods, many people seemed unaware it was Election Day. Voter Turnout was large, but unenthusiastic and sluggish.

I firmly believe we were robbed.

You heard about the 'flipping' thing with the electronic polls? In PA, there was one Mainstream Media story about it, out of Harrisburg, where a report of an Obama vote flipped to Romney, before the machine was 'Re-calibrated'. I know for a fact there were dozens of reports of Romney/Republican votes flipping the other way - but no mention of those.

This Administration is bogus, fraudulent and traitorous, murderous... I think it's time to consider other options.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: harleynyc, 11/9/2012 9:50:35 AM     (No. 9002151)

democrat voter tampering in all the close elections.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: hicokid, 11/9/2012 9:56:45 AM     (No. 9002172)

Yes, there is something seriously wrong when obama never crossed the 50% threshold in the polls. I believe that there has been massive fraud committed, and our country was stolen on election night. Not in my wildest dreams could I imagine our electorate choosing to be ruled by this kind of evil.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bogeegolf, 11/9/2012 9:59:06 AM     (No. 9002180)

Not one post above that I don't agree with

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 11/9/2012 10:04:06 AM     (No. 9002203)

I believe the Rats have finally perfected their fraud in this election. This time it was aimed at the presidency, thier next goal is is Congress. And you know what? They are going to get away with it. We'll be RULED by communists using the title of democrats. America is over. Welcome to Amerika.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 11/9/2012 10:05:14 AM     (No. 9002207)

FTA: That's an increase among those crucial nine states of 2.96%.

I smell fraud in those states. And what about the military votes?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/9/2012 10:07:45 AM     (No. 9002218)

Romney should have overperformed McCain.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Avogadra, 11/9/2012 10:10:40 AM     (No. 9002224)

Any chance we could go back to using paper ballots? At least there were chads to inspect in 2000. Now, all we have is lines of computer code that can be instructed to go "poof" once election night is over.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 11/9/2012 10:11:54 AM     (No. 9002227)

I did a take on the percentages of the battleground states and the amount of flips needed to turn the tide. It would take less than three in 100 votes. Introducing a looping algorithm that would flip say, the eleventh, sixteenth and twenty-first then around again would be very difficult to verify, but would shift the tally.

I'm not sure how these machines work entirely, but I believe almost all are supplied by demn leaning companies. Also, I understand that some are controlled by a central server, but not sure this is true.

Many voters would not bother to check their paper if printed out and the chances of catching these flips would be miniscule and considered a fluke as in "flooke" not "fluhk."

It appears there were hundreds, if not thousands of flips caught. Every machine and it's software needs to be seized and scrutinized in depth. Votes won't be confirmed until December 18th. There's time, but is there the will?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 11/9/2012 10:23:23 AM     (No. 9002264)

Are we supposed to forget all of the huge crowds for Romney Ryan, even in PA? Virginia? Obama had to downsize how many venues because he xouldn't fill them?

We have how many GOP guvs do we have now? Can we cancel early voting? And appoint someone other than entrenched democrats to election boards?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Melody, 11/9/2012 10:24:21 AM     (No. 9002272)

At least in our state where I've worked at the polls, there is a paper tape that is produced by the voting machine and is used in counting the votes. It's not something that just goes ''poof'' with no trace of proof.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: MindMadeUp, 11/9/2012 10:30:43 AM     (No. 9002296)

Voting machine manipulation along with the illegal alien vote. There are 11 million illegal aliens and Obama won by about 3 million votes.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: K.I.S.S., 11/9/2012 10:45:35 AM     (No. 9002365)

if military votes are never mailed or posted; if absentee ballots are never posted; if millions of electronic romney votes do not register...then voter turnout is down...that is the DNC lie and they are sticking to it...and the RNC knew this would happen and DID NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 11/9/2012 10:48:38 AM     (No. 9002374)

It is scary to think that the "d" community organizers have truly "voterized" our urban areas which seem to want to be the "in-crowd" who shows up to be "popular". They don't seem to think or care about the country because they all voted for Obama to be "prom-king" again.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: confused, 11/9/2012 10:55:33 AM     (No. 9002408)

A Spanish vote company owned by George Soros and contracted to the USA to "help" with our elections. I kid you not.

the Republicans may never win another election. Its not who is voting or who is counting the votes, its who is in change of the final data.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/9/2012 11:12:03 AM     (No. 9002495)

The power of good ideas and clear thinking and personal liberty mean nothing in a corrupt system.

Here in Texas we don't take kindly to being cheated and lied to and told to shut up and take it.

Kindness and politeness and generosity are sometimes mistaken for weakness.

Bad mistake.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Blunderbuss, 11/9/2012 2:53:38 PM     (No. 9003172)

Agreed, perhaps the most fraudulent election ever launched. I am ashamed to call myself an american.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: susieq1, 11/9/2012 4:37:35 PM     (No. 9003463)

Total agreement with posters. I too wonder did the military vote count? Did they receive ballots in a timely manner?

Where there is smoke there is fire....we will never know the true results.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: TigerLilly, 11/9/2012 4:43:36 PM     (No. 9003480)

I am still in denial that Obama won, at least that he won fair and square. The crowds were for Romney not with Obama. The black voters were not energized this time so that vote should have been way down from 2008. Even for Republicans who weren't crazy about Mitt, they wanted Obama and his Obamacare gone. It is hard for me to accept the outcome unless there was massive fraud, more massive than the usual Demorat fraud, simply due to Obama's unpopularity.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 11/9/2012 4:56:49 PM     (No. 9003516)

I'm remembering 68% of the population wanted Obamacare gone. What happened?! Also, how many times did you hear Rush (or any other talker) say that NO president had ever been re-elected if their approval rating was below 50. How long since Zippy had even been at 50 - before the debates? This election stinks to high heaven. I'm impatiently awaiting the Republicans to go back to closed primaries, voting on election day and working to shut down motor voter and early voting. It will be a fight because you know all these are used by those liars and cheaters on the other side. Enough already!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 11/9/2012 7:53:43 PM     (No. 9003861)

I don't think in any poll he got more than 49+ percent nearing the election. Suddenly he gets 52 and 53 percent down the line of battleground states. States that Romney was ahead consistently toward election day like Virginia; 51%, Wisconsin; 53% went for hussein.

The Stinky win smells!

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