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Missing Bush in Northeast Electrical Outage
AmericanThinker.com, by J. James Estrada

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Posted By:javaboy, 11/1/2012 7:42:19 AM

The power outages states are encountering in the Northeast did not have to happen. During the Bush years, Democrats rejected plans to upgrade the electrical grid system in the country because they believed Bush and Cheney were just rewarding "cronies" who helped get them elected (sort of like Obama giving billions to now bankrupt solar companies whose CEOs supported his election). Here is the Bush Administration report advocating for upgrades. Too bad its implementation was blocked by Dems in Congress.

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Short article. An interesting reference is to an article in the LA Times which spells out (in its own biased way) the difference between the Dem and Republican energy policies. Republicans want to expand energy production, Dems want to halt it. Remember this when your electric bill goes up.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 11/1/2012 8:01:35 AM     (No. 8978897)

Bush can still be blamed, right?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: fireman28, 11/1/2012 8:08:46 AM     (No. 8978910)

Since most the NE states are liberal, they can look in the mirror on whom to blame.

Of course lets be realistic, when 5 ft of water come down your street, it does not matter if power lines are "upgraded" or underground.

You still end up without electricity. And your subways are still under water.



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Reply 3 - Posted by: Catherine, 11/1/2012 8:13:29 AM     (No. 8978927)

What happened to the northeast is horrific. However, it happens regularly in the south - Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Florida. I don't understand why anyone living on an island in the ocean chose to stay. Yeah, looters and all that but it's not worth your or your family's lives.

Katrina happened because of Kathleen Blanco, the then governor. Bush called before Katrina hit and offered help. She turned him down because she didn't want to cede control to the feds. We all know the rest.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Maybeth, 11/1/2012 8:41:11 AM     (No. 8979009)

The Democrats who ruled the Congress when Bush was president weren't interested in any Bush initiatives, especially those which placed the security of our country first.
.... It is soooo just that Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and the Congress Critters who bowed to them be exposed for disallowing updates in America's electrical structure.

Bush also repeatedly requested tighter oversignt on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, the massive Dodd/Frank banking loan schemes under which everyone qualified for a mortgage. Of course, mortgages were not paid, but then again .... when you are jobless and shiftless, that is to be expected.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: LZK, 11/1/2012 8:41:36 AM     (No. 8979011)

Bill O'Reilly is spot on!! Buy your OWN generator and take care of YOURSELF.

I loved the report on Fox this morning about the man (set up reporter) who went out and "mandated" the children give him their Halloween Candy. The kids didn't like someone taking their hard earned candy and giving it to some kid who didn't want to go out in the cold and dark and walk house to house. THEY worked for it -- they wanted to keep it... Shelfish little capitalist.....

LZK

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Reply 6 - Posted by: JoniTx, 11/1/2012 8:54:08 AM     (No. 8979044)

This article includes a link to a May 16, 2001 L.A. Times article. Worth a look. From that article: ~~'Even before it has been released, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) called the Bush energy plan a "recipe for disaster" and stressed that "Democrats will throw themselves on the train tracks" to stop it.'~~

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Reply 7 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 11/1/2012 9:06:03 AM     (No. 8979070)

If anyone wanted to do a real stimulus, they would bury all the power lines possible. Think of the misery that could be avoided by not having to worry about electricity going out every time there's a storm, strong wind, ice, etc...

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 11/1/2012 9:10:15 AM     (No. 8979086)

Northeastern Liberals ought to rejoice that so much energy is being saved due to Sandy.

As for sane Northeasterners, the aftermath of a hurricane is a miserable experience, and believe me, you have all my sympathies. Take it from someone who went through Frances (Cat 3) and Jeanne (Cat 2) in 2004 (the eye passed right over us)-- it'll be about two to three weeks before life returns to a semblance of normalcy, and if you're out in the boonies, you may have to wait a few weeks before your power is restored. You'll get through it, don't worry.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mc squared, 11/1/2012 9:20:18 AM     (No. 8979110)

#7; All the power lines in NYC are buried except for a few places in the outer fringes. The undergeround wiring and transformers were flooded with salt water. That's why the power was off.

Alternatively, overhead wires would continue to work (if the poles stay up) but the interconnection doesn't make them independent.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hairy Eyeball, 11/1/2012 9:30:45 AM     (No. 8979133)

At the height of the storm we watched the reports on a big screen TV, internet, and cocktails while our whole town was out of power. Generators are cheap, and not rocket science. I have 2. My only concern is some apparatchik coming and taking the 2nd since it's 'not fair' to those who didn't prepare.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: qmcgs, 11/1/2012 9:36:22 AM     (No. 8979147)

I assume, based on the date of the story, that the outages being referred to are from Hurricane Sandy. The study is talking about the national power grid. Regardless of the merits of the study and the actions that should be taken for the national power grid, many of the outages from the hurricane are local and simple: trees knocking down wires and substations being flooded.

The solutions are likewise simple, albeit extensive, costly and subject to political opposition. A friend in the Northeast gives a few examples. Supposedly CP&L went through and trimmed trees still standing after Irene and the 2011 Halloween snowstorm. Driving around you could still see large trees whose branches were resting on power lines. (Not any more.) Stamford, Connecticut had a power substation that was in danger of being flooded (ten others were at risk). The day before the storm surge, the CP&L spokesman said they were building a wall around it. A reporter asked, why didn't you do it sooner? I.e., when you did the infrastructure vulnerability study, why didn't you put plans to make the necessary improvements instead waiting until the day before the storm?


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Razorgirl, 11/1/2012 9:51:56 AM     (No. 8979196)

Disasters like Sandy, in themselves, force upgrades. After the ice storm in our area a few years back, the electric lines and poles were replaced and trees cut back. This is Tornado Alley. We get a lot of storms. In the three years since, our power has only been off one time and that was only because some drunk driver slammed into a pole supporting a transformer.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Arabella Figg, 11/1/2012 10:00:59 AM     (No. 8979216)

The other issue in Katrina was a dependency culture. A lot of people just assumed if anything really bad happened, they would be rescued, and waited for rescue rather than evacuating ahead of time.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 11/1/2012 10:02:10 AM     (No. 8979220)

RE: #6's reference to Harry Reid's statement that "Democrats will throw themselves on the train tracks" to stop it."

Now there's a comforting thought early on a Thursday morning..... *sigh*.... if only they'd keep their word....


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Reply 15 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 11/1/2012 10:29:19 AM     (No. 8979344)

I don't know of any problems that we have that were not caused by Democrats. Can you think of any?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: 80coyotekate, 11/1/2012 10:31:37 AM     (No. 8979353)

Trucker Observation: One of my drivers was born in Wyckoff, NJ. His parents join with 3 other neighbors to rent a generator. They switch it between the various house to satisfy their changing demands.

President Obama didn't do a damn thing except clog up the area with his Secret Servive details soliciting sex in the local brothels while he paraded with the Governor for a fawning media.

Jerks all of them ...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 11/1/2012 10:31:56 AM     (No. 8979355)

#5, Bill O'Reilly live on Long Island (Manhasset) was complaining the other night that he bought a generator (ten grand) but it did not work. Still, it may be a good investment if you have natural gas and your area is susceptible to power outages.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mc squared, 11/1/2012 10:49:18 AM     (No. 8979432)

#17; Wanna' bet BOR never tried it out before the storm? Federally mandated ethanol clogs up engines unless they are run frequently.
Seems a check before the storm would have been wise.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: FormerDem, 11/1/2012 10:55:05 AM     (No. 8979456)

Amen #3. And those incentives needed analysis and attention that they did not get.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: tnorling, 11/1/2012 11:03:16 AM     (No. 8979491)

Sandy wasn't pretty, but really this sort of storm is fairly routine in Florida and the Gulf Coast.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: cake crumb, 11/1/2012 11:04:55 AM     (No. 8979500)

Another nefarious plot by the Evil BOOOOOSH thwarted by those always sharp and on their toes American voters!!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: chuck koala, 11/1/2012 11:20:09 AM     (No. 8979552)

Bill O'Reilly? Is there a bigger, more egocentric blowhole on the air? What's he making 20 million a year? I guess he can afford anything he wants. The average yuk doesn't need his darn advice, especially after the fact!!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: NRA_Forever, 11/1/2012 11:30:23 AM     (No. 8979595)

Our power was out for 26 hours in my small NE town. I have 3 generators and we were fine - watching satellite cable and using the microwave, toaster oven, clothes dryer, dishwasher, everything like normal. I can't stand Bill O'Reilly - he's a legend in his own (feeble) mind and no true conservative. But this time he's right - get your own generator. Not terribly expensive and a lifesaver in these all-too-frequent occurrences.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: erv, 11/1/2012 11:30:51 AM     (No. 8979597)

You can get generators that run on propane. If you do this and also have a large propane tank (not the ones you use for grilling) that you have filled up prior to the storm it will last you for weeks.

If you have a generator that runs on gasoline, you can easily store enough gasoline to last you a week if you do not run the generator constantly. If you run the generator every two weeks for thirty minutes or so the generator will not get gummed up with the old fuel. You can always add the gasoline to your vehicles and refil the gas cans with fresh gasoline every couple of months.

As noted, natural gas generators will only work as long as the natural gas is still working in the city and is being piped to your house.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 11/1/2012 11:31:07 AM     (No. 8979599)

Somebody just go get some solar panels and point'em at the sun.... right? Isn't that how they expect Americans of the future to live? Just call up Solynd--oh wait. What about another taxpayer-subsidized solar manufacturer? Or maybe a windmill company....? They're doing well I hear....

No? Hmmmm....

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Reply 26 - Posted by: fayebeck, 11/1/2012 11:37:09 AM     (No. 8979623)

I've noticed an odd thing. I have yet to hear a Californian wish the worst for those liberals affected by Sandy. Odd.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: GardenGal, 11/1/2012 12:17:12 PM     (No. 8979776)

I don;t want to wish anyone harm, but has anyone noticed some of the people being "rescued". I was telling my husband about it this morning- saying I know that elderly residents may need help in flood water, but 20-60 yo men??? What comes on the tv next? A scene of a young man gingerly walking from an apartment house to the National Guard truck. I mean- why do most of these people need rescuing in a foot of water? How about walking out?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Labrador Heaven, 11/1/2012 1:21:32 PM     (No. 8979968)

#24 - let's also remind those who aren't generator knowledgeable that if you are using gas and storing it, you need to add a stabilizer to it and store the appropriate containers safely. StaBil works.

We had a condo owner who stored his generator gas in a shed at the back of a neighborhood that backed up to a huge dental office complex. Never added stabilizer, and in July, it went kaboom with the right hit of sun, tinder dry cypress mulch, and up went that entire dental complex. The court battle finally ended 2 years later.

To be honest, most city borough apt dwelling NYers are not able to own generators, so that is moot....I was one once, and I also grew up in hurricane country, so generators go with our life now, but they do require regular maintenance even if you never have used them. O'Reilly was an idiot if he didn't pay attention to that fact, probably told to him by the seller.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: toodles3956, 11/1/2012 5:14:22 PM     (No. 8980566)

I was disgusted the day after the storm when people were yelling for food to be brought to them. I don't know a single household that doesn't have a minimun of a weeks worth of food. They knew the storm was coming.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 11/1/2012 5:24:34 PM     (No. 8980586)

I know for a fact that buried power lines are more reliable and cheaper in the long run. So the birds don't have a place to sit. Chop them up in a windmill.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: susieq1, 11/1/2012 5:42:42 PM     (No. 8980622)

#27 some of us have the same thoughts. Seeing photos of men in knee deep water pulling boats with people. Like you older or helpless but....others not so much.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 11/1/2012 7:37:36 PM     (No. 8980835)

I feel bad for the hell people in NJ are going through now, but, you know, having Romney and W out there right now would be like hitting the ball out of the park in the bottom of the ninth, and five days before we show Obie and Bite Me the door.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: billa, 11/1/2012 11:31:03 PM     (No. 8981232)

As a Californian and lived through many horrible earthquakes both in LA and SF, where there is NO warning, I do not understand how those in NYC and NJ on an island and on along an enormous shore, did not frickin' evacuate. The property damage is just horrific, but people remaining despite the horrible lesson learned from Katrina, any one that remained in the hardest hit areas are just plain stupid. And unlike the areas hit in LA, the areas in NYC and along the Jersey shore are very affluent, so the people definitely had the means to leave.

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Washington, what should you do?

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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Megyn Kelly and the
Sandberg Head Shaker

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American Thinker, by Richard F. Miniter    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/15/2014 9:16:05 AM     Post Reply
Megyn Kelly’s "Kelly File" is a great news show. She’s incisive, informed and customarily handles the toughest guest with aplomb. But her lengthy interview of Facebook C.O.O. Sheryl Sandberg about her second book in the Lean In series Lean In: For Graduates was a head shaker. Amazing that she of all people allowed Sandberg to restring the same old, same old, shamed, and shopworn feminist myths about women and girls and then jangle it in front of her viewing audience like something new out of the box. Indeed Kelly all but genuflected in front of this woman. Kept her on thru

Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
Prayer Breakfast with invocation

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
Episcopal Bishop to Lead Easter Prayer

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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 12:46:05 PM     Post Reply
President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of


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