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Oregon voters just saying no to
legalized marijuana (Oregonian poll)

The Oregonian, by Harry Esteve

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Posted By:annapolis2010dad, 10/30/2012 9:10:41 AM

Oregon voters apparently aren't ready to flat-out legalize the growing, selling and use of marijuana, a new poll for The Oregonian shows. The poll of 405 likely voters, conducted over the past week, shows Measure 80 failing 49 percent to 42 percent, with 9 percent undecided. Proponents wrote a far-reaching measure that would create a new Oregon Cannabis Commission to buy and sell pot at state run stores, as well as license growers and suppliers. The measure also would allow anyone but minors to grow and possess limitless amounts of marijuana for personal use. Currently, possession of less than an

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Maybe were seeing a dose of sanity from the Pacific NW? Nah, the place is overrun with hippies! So glad to have left there last year. This will somehow pass and the whole state will end up permanently stoned.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: devnull, 10/30/2012 9:24:46 AM     (No. 8974240)

As much disdain as I have for the hippies on this, the Federal Controlled Substances Act has no Constitutional basis when it comes to intra-state narcotics commerce. The interstate commerce clause (as written) does not apply and neither the common defense clause or general welfare clause are broad enough to warrant sufficient legal support for the FCSA.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Maybeth, 10/30/2012 9:27:33 AM     (No. 8974243)

Sanity? In Oregon? I doubt it.
I can easily imagine, though, that drug cartels donated the funds to keep this one from becoming a law. The 'suppliers' are not interested in having their profits disturbed.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 10/30/2012 9:37:29 AM     (No. 8974276)

The 9 percent were too stoned to respond?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rock n robin, 10/30/2012 9:58:26 AM     (No. 8974327)

#1. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court in Gonzales v. Raich (2005) said that the Commerce Clause does

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Reply 5 - Posted by: retiree, 10/30/2012 10:00:17 AM     (No. 8974334)

What the voters want doesn't seem to matter to a judge who will overturn their will by the swipe of a pen.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 10/30/2012 10:02:27 AM     (No. 8974336)

As a public school teacher in metro Denver, I'm concerned about evidence that marijuana legalization leads to increased use of it by youth. Therefore, I hope the marijuana ballot measure fails in Colorado.

Q . . . What do you get when a "student" with a 90 IQ smokes dope and then returns to school?

A . . . A doorstop with bad breath.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/30/2012 10:11:39 AM     (No. 8974353)

Liberty is perilous.

Freedom is for "Adults Only".

Let us not conflate freedom to do stupid things with a preference for stupid things.

A government which manages your personal behavior for a "Good" reason today will be tempted to manage your behavior for it's own benefit tomorrow.

Vice is not crime.

Vice of any kind is none of the government's damnbidness.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/30/2012 10:22:21 AM     (No. 8974384)

"Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness. Unlike crimes, they imply no malice toward others, and no interference with their persons or property."
– Lysander Spooner

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Douglas DC, 10/30/2012 10:44:07 AM     (No. 8974435)

One more time for those who are not familiar with Oregon. Oregon is a Red Sea Eastern Oregon is more like Idaho. Farms and Ranches.
Mountains,desert,hard to tell where you are
from about Burns, Or to Flagstaff Az.. Most of Oregon is high desert. Not trees and rain.
so when we are painted with a blue brush.
Not necessarily will that blue paint stick..
Range and Basin country...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Liberal like Jefferson, 10/30/2012 10:52:06 AM     (No. 8974455)

"The government isn't against drugs. They are just against YOUR choice in drugs." ~Chris Rock

We have tens of millions (likely hundreds of millions) of Americans on every kind of wacky chemical compound imaginable. Stuff that makes you sleep, wakes you up, cures your headache, fixes you depression, helps you stop smoking, makes you happy, sad, sick, high, low, etc.

The legal and historical precedents for banning an indigenous herb are convoluted and silly. The people campaigning the hardest to keep the marijuana illegal are in the black market business of making a hefty profit.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: rubberneck, 10/30/2012 11:30:18 AM     (No. 8974531)

Count me as one more conservative who's in favor of legalization. It's none of the government's damn business what adults choose to ingest, and we're broke! We can't afford to continue the "war on drugs."

Kids will abuse it? Just like they raid the liquor cabinet when Dad and Mom are away? That's the responsibility of their parents. (And besides, it shows that laws aren't much of a deterrent.)

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 10/30/2012 11:56:37 AM     (No. 8974595)

THC, the active ingredient in Marijuana, has extremely bad effects on the brain of the user. Combine that with the fact that the Marijuana of today isn't the "hemp" that kids used to smoke from the days of "Reefer Madness" up to the 1970s, that they found growing wild along the riverbank near their town. This stuff is about 300% more powerful and can "stone" you in one drag.

For all you Libertarians, don't give me the alcohol argument. Alcohol is sanctioned in the Bible and is controllable, drugs are not... and yes, people in the times of the New Testament did take drugs during rituals of the occult, as the Apostle Paul confirmed and condemned. Drugs are always related to occult rituals, whether Peyote or Mescaline with the American Indians, or Hashish and Opium on the other side of the globe.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: eorsc, 10/30/2012 1:15:00 PM     (No. 8974786)

Here is what the head of our local Drug Team said--they have never once arrested a person for meth that started with meth. Every single one of them started with marijuana. Pot, the entrance drug.

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