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Movies Try to Escape
Cultural Irrelevance

New York Times, by Michael Cieply

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Posted By:pineledger, 10/29/2012 7:08:34 AM

Los Angeles--On Feb. 24 Hollywood will turn out for the Oscars. (Snip)Next year’s Academy Awards ceremony — the 85th since 1929 — will be landing in a pool of angst about movies and what appears to be their fraying connection to the pop culture. After the shock of last year’s decline in domestic movie ticket sales, to $1.28 billion, the lowest since 1995 (and attendance is only a little better this year) film business insiders have been quietly scrambling to fix what few will publicly acknowledge to be broken.

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The connection to "pop" culture is exactly what is wrong, and the emphasis on the money side shows where their Marxist/psuedo-social-justice values are. Good movies? Phooey. Some of us have better things to do.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spidey, 10/29/2012 7:13:28 AM     (No. 8970848)

What's broken is leading men suck.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jinx, 10/29/2012 7:22:56 AM     (No. 8970863)

Hollywood is trying to ram their culture down our throats and it is not working. Once you have seen one, you've seen them all. They need to look no further than their so-called screen writers. Their plots, if they have any, stink as do their untalented actors and actresses whose main claim to fame is thier boobs not their brains. We, who are working, work too hard for our money to waste it on trash. Those who are not working are using "our" money to feed their families and put a roof over their heads. No money:no movies.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chumley, 10/29/2012 7:24:27 AM     (No. 8970866)

MacFarlane and his ilk are part of the reason movies are so lousy. Between the pointless vulgarity and goofy Kalifornia social messages, I see no point in paying money for that trash. Most of it I would not see for free, and I certainly wouldn't bring the family to see it.
Better to watch reruns of old John Wayne movies. The good guys always win and you can always tell who they are.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: PChristopher, 10/29/2012 7:25:37 AM     (No. 8970870)

If you don't want to be irrelevant, stop making cra...uh...junk that always has hidden messages and agendas that only appeals to liberal wonks and other stooges. Oh, and bring back morality clauses and tell your stars to just entertain us and then shut up.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/29/2012 7:26:16 AM     (No. 8970872)

Solution: make better movies that people want to see.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: fransand, 10/29/2012 7:32:59 AM     (No. 8970885)

...and any "humor" there is, is sophomoric at best.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: rollingcow, 10/29/2012 7:42:09 AM     (No. 8970902)

Let us not forget the constant 'remaking' of classics. True Grit was good the way it was, I saw no reason to do it again. It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the old one was better than the new one, it has more to do with finding another story to tell. How many times do we have to see A Star is Born? The whole 'message' thing leaves me cold as well. Is it any wonder that I prefer my old movies and DVD player? I can't even take my grandkids to see movies they make now with very few exceptions.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 10/29/2012 7:46:58 AM     (No. 8970909)

Actors are reverting back to the respect that society had for them generations ago. Which is very little.

They, are to me, in the same class as journalists. Empty headed idealists.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: fireman28, 10/29/2012 7:55:13 AM     (No. 8970920)

Actually we need to watch to see what the enemy of America is doing.

With Prez Romney in office for 30 days, lets see what these dunces have to say.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 10/29/2012 7:59:13 AM     (No. 8970931)

"the group had considered things as far afield as reaching out to prominent politicians — say, Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton — as supervisors of film awards programs. The goal would be to re-establish a connection with viewers who were turning elsewhere for cultural direction. "

They really don't get it, do they? A significant part of the problem is that they have already reached out (sold out?) to left-wing politics. They have consciously written off half of their audience, then wonder why nobody wants to see their trash.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: lakerman1, 10/29/2012 8:08:59 AM     (No. 8970955)

I hardly ever go to movies, although I did go to the latest Batman, but only because my second oldest son was in it. And I have to say, the movie was lousy! Although it had good reviews, it was just about unwatchable.
It portrayed Bruce Wayne as a sissy, and his Batman persona was beat up by a girl!
The story line made nno sense.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: a man over thirty, 10/29/2012 8:12:30 AM     (No. 8970961)

Sorry, but I won't pay money to see the likes of Cameron Diaz, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, George Clooney, Sara Jessica Parker, Barbara Streisand, Whoopi, ......you get the picture.
You wanna spout your ignorant, herd-inspired prog claptrap about Obama-good, Romney-evil then don't expect over half your potential audience to want to see your movies.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 10/29/2012 8:16:39 AM     (No. 8970968)

Let me see, 40 year old males acting like 17 year olds, every female MUST have at least 29 'boob' shots, and if there is a bad guy, he MUST be a rich, white, corporate pig trying to destroy the planet with pollution. That's about it, right Hollywierd.

They haven't got money from me for years...and won't.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Judith, 10/29/2012 8:27:00 AM     (No. 8970994)

Movies are so bad I don't even want to borrow them, for free, from our library.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: angelesgift, 10/29/2012 8:41:20 AM     (No. 8971025)

Couch potatoes plop their butts in front of the TV and surf it until the find the garbage they enjoy provided by the likes of McFarland. Others schedule time to watch shows that are important to them.

The final group would schedule time, get dressed, go out and pay good money to watch movies that are even more important to them. So stop giving these people the same garbage and reruns they could find channel-surfing, performed by obnoxious people who insult anyone who isn't a Dem-voting couch potato.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: lancer12, 10/29/2012 8:59:22 AM     (No. 8971063)

Best movies? Bargain bin used..with Audio Commentaties.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: coyote, 10/29/2012 9:28:26 AM     (No. 8971153)

The New York Times should try to escape cultural irrevelence too.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 10/29/2012 9:50:17 AM     (No. 8971209)

Why the decline? Several reasons...the left-wing agenda has a lot to do with it of course. Then there is price...expensive to take a family of four to the movies.

And television including Netflix etal is really hurting theatre attendance. Big, flat screen TV's keep dropping in price. It's getting harder for theatres to get people out of their living room and it's easy to see why. The fridge, snacks and bathroom are just a few steps away at home. You aren't sitting with a crowd of people coughing and hacking up flu germs and no telling what else.

It's no contest as far as I am concerned.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Lanielou, 10/29/2012 10:28:47 AM     (No. 8971312)

I bet even Sean Penn is tiring of being used as a propaganda machine. Hollywood no longer produces films to delight & amaze; It's all about the marxist commie agenda. They are idiot tools of the progressives, not able to be creative any longer. I stopped going to the movies 4 years ago.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative, 10/29/2012 12:01:12 PM     (No. 8971666)

On the occasions I go to the local cineplex, I don't see a whole lot of empty auditoriums on the weekend. The big transition has been the change to producing bad art and overt political statement for the adult customer seeking entertainment. If "China Syndrome" and "JFK" didn't kill the movies, nothing will. Nobody is going broke, except the investors...who must never have seen "The Producers."

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Reply 21 - Posted by: mseegal, 10/29/2012 12:21:19 PM     (No. 8971735)

Besides the insidious left-wing propaganda in most films, a bigger problem is that there is no story! Car chases/crashes do not equal a compelling story. How many times are you reading a great book and thinking it would make an interesting movie? I find myself "casting" various actors for the parts in the book. Somehow, these movies are never made. Pity.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: toddh, 10/29/2012 2:15:18 PM     (No. 8972202)

Such a tiny industry sure does make a lot of noise.

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