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Petraeus Throws Obama
Under the Bus

Weekly Standard, by William Kristol

Original Article

Posted By:horacer, 10/26/2012 6:19:53 PM

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ” So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

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It's about time.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/26/2012 6:25:26 PM     (No. 8965384)

Shame on YOU! A month later you finally throw the American People a few crumbs of truth?
Your Oath is to the Constitution, NOT the President. The two are poles apart.
Shame !

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 10/26/2012 6:28:55 PM     (No. 8965393)

This has Valerie Jarrett's hoofprints all over this. Obama went to bed and let her deal with it. She denied assistance to our guys on the ground. An unelected apparitchik.

The media has been disgraceful on this. Politico doesn't have this on their page, but they do have a story about Obama walking the dog.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: thelmalou, 10/26/2012 6:30:25 PM     (No. 8965397)

Well! Gen. Petraeus is still alive, after all.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Photoonist, 10/26/2012 6:32:38 PM     (No. 8965405)

Petraeus has to do better than this. A mere disclaimer that anyone under him is not responsible isn't enough. Indicate who gave the orders.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: thefield, 10/26/2012 6:35:08 PM     (No. 8965413)

a horse? A trojan horse that was just waiting for the moment to strike the Obama Administration.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99, 10/26/2012 6:35:47 PM     (No. 8965414)

I'm beginning to believe the theory that this attack started out as a kidnapping of Stevens, planned by zippy and crew as an October surprise, so that zippy could then oversee a rescue and possible trade of the blind sheik.

Think about it - if the WH and State were watching in real time, maybe they thought they were watching the planned kidnapping and they ordered the CIA etc not to go in to rescue anyone because they didn't want to interfere with the 'kidnapping'. And they didn't want anyone else knowing what was happening on the ground in real time.

Sounds like tinfoil hat stuff but it makes complete sense. If it turns out to be true, there should be a firing squad in zippy's future, televised worldwide.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/26/2012 6:36:35 PM     (No. 8965417)

All that talk by Obama about responsibility and where the buck stops... it was all BULL.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/26/2012 6:38:38 PM     (No. 8965425)

Sorry for the 2nd post, but I have to heartily agree with #6, especially when one recalls the early statements from Obama about the Ambassador being "taken to the hospital".
That likely was part of the plan, until it all fell apart.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: franq, 10/26/2012 6:42:49 PM     (No. 8965433)

Plausible, #6.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: KTWO, 10/26/2012 6:42:57 PM     (No. 8965434)

Like the Fan Dance. Now you see, or believe you do, then you don't.

The CIA would not have commanded our military forces. They could only ask for that support. What they knew and what they told the WH and Defense and State are the important questions. And what the CIA was doing there anyway?

So this denial, when parsed, seems to tell us nothing. I think it is carefully phrased to do just that.



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Reply 11 - Posted by: Sfacheem, 10/26/2012 6:50:06 PM     (No. 8965455)

LOL at #2..."hoof prints..."

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JimS, 10/26/2012 6:56:09 PM     (No. 8965471)

Sorry to deflate your conspiracy, but...
There is no US embassy in Benghazi (it's in Tripoli), and what is in Benghazi cannot even be called a consulate--maybe a station. It is like the Wild West there compared to Tripoli because of jihadi violence, lack of government and law enforcement.
Q: What was Stevens + 3 former SEALS (now private contractors to State Dept) doing in Benghazi? Especially with almost no security and no reason to be there.
A: Obama had a little Libyan Fast & Furious/ Iran Contra deal going on. He secretly shipped weapons to the Libyan rebels to overthrow Khadaffi without Congressional approval. Those weapons ended up with AQ and other radical jihadists. Stevens was there to negotiate return of the weapons. Instead, those weapons were likely used to kill him. Sending in US troops to save Stevens would have exposed the whole thing--especially the warehouse full of weaponry that was emptied during the attack.
Obama was in full CYA mode and put 4 Americans in harm's way, and then watched them die real-time via drone cameras.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/26/2012 6:56:58 PM     (No. 8965473)

From the FOX report.."an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11".
Petraeus is the top of the CIA chain..now read his statement again. I believe it points to the CIC.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Whamdbambam, 10/26/2012 7:00:51 PM     (No. 8965483)

If Patraeus is an honorable man with a soul, and I belirve that he is, this has got to eat at him. Please, Sir, in the name of truth, justice and honor, lay out what you know.

Let the chips fall where they may.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: LanieLou, 10/26/2012 7:12:49 PM     (No. 8965513)

Amb. Stevens was there to honor a local Libyan as he opens a new school teaching english.

The CIA annex guys were tryimg to locate & grab 20,000 missiles that can take down an airliner.

I think Obama / Jarrett denied the rescue so their phony kidnapping scheme could play out.... They were watching it live in the situation room & were told Stevens was in the safe room... Clearly didn't care about other American lives lost.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: oriton, 10/26/2012 7:19:51 PM     (No. 8965541)

It doesn't matter why the Americans were there. What matters is that people watched while they were being killed and did nothing. When they asked for help, the decision makers denied the help because they were concerned only about their backsides. obama's insistence that this was not about politics lets us know it was absolutely about politics (his backside). If obama loses the election, on November 6, every person who knows the truth should start singing. If they stay quiet with him losing, they lose all opportunity to get their reputations back. obama, Clinton, Panetta, etc. should not get away with this and the truth needs to come out!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: disklxik, 10/26/2012 7:21:31 PM     (No. 8965548)

WIll SAGMAN write the script for: The situation room"?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/26/2012 7:31:28 PM     (No. 8965579)

Earlier reports indicated the two CIA personnel went to give aid counter to CIA chain of command orders.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 10/26/2012 7:35:29 PM     (No. 8965594)

A legal question: If Obama gets arrested and held without bail the day after he's defeated in a landslide, and at the same time, Biden is being grilled under hot lights, does John Boehner get to sign an executive order reversing any future pardons signed by Obama?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Gretchen, 10/26/2012 7:41:36 PM     (No. 8965608)

I'm not sure about the kidnapping angle. It would seem more likely that the CIC and advisers were trying to avoid a Carteresque mistake, i.e., a possible botched rescue, as well as hiding the CIA gun running that was going on (arming Syrian rebels).

The president and his peeps are filth. Pure filth.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: slipstik, 10/26/2012 7:44:24 PM     (No. 8965615)

I think the statement would have read better if "simply inaccurate" would have said "at least inaccurate". just sayin'

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JAN, 10/26/2012 7:55:02 PM     (No. 8965635)

Petraeus is not an honorable man.

Moving on from that fact leaves us with pure politics on his part since he has now begun to take flak for the fiasco.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: curious1, 10/26/2012 8:04:24 PM     (No. 8965655)

The other possibility is that val and zippy wanted the 20k MANPADs and other weapons in the hands of our enemies, including Iran.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: judy, 10/26/2012 8:22:23 PM     (No. 8965690)

Petraeus & Justice Roberts ...the biggest disappointments of 2012.....

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Reply 25 - Posted by: gabula, 10/26/2012 8:53:25 PM     (No. 8965752)

They ALL have some answering to do. I don't trust any of them and when the noose tightens, someone "hopefully" will tell the TRUTH.

Gabula

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Gr8Shiphandler, 10/26/2012 9:53:04 PM     (No. 8965858)

I thnk Valerie told Obambi, "I'll handle this. You have to get up early so you can go to the fundraiser in Vegas."

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/26/2012 10:02:55 PM     (No. 8965876)

Well, if you didn't give the order to stand down, and your staff didn't give the order, Director Patraeus, I bet you know who did. Doesn't all of this not go against your code of honor? Don't you think it calls for justice? You've melded into the same kind of person as the people for whom you work.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 10/26/2012 10:31:37 PM     (No. 8965925)

Gen. "King David" Petraeus IS an honorable man. Do not ever forget that.

Although some, like then-Senator Hillary Clinton, would crassly abuse him by suggesting that his Congressional testimony required a "willing suspension of disbelief."

Gen. Petraeus is a soldier's soldier, with all that implies.

Read about him in Wikipedia. you'll be as proud of him as I am. Aside from his unanimous (94-0) Senate confirmation as Director, CIA, there's this:

" In 1991 he was accidentally shot in the chest with an M-16 assault rifle during a live-fire exercise when a soldier tripped and his rifle discharged. He was taken to Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, Tennessee, where he was operated on by future U.S. Senator Bill Frist. The hospital released him early after he did fifty push-ups without resting, just a few days after the accident."

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Reply 29 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/26/2012 10:45:31 PM     (No. 8965946)

I always thought so too, #28 until his deafening silence of the past 7 weeks...even the AG resigned during Watergate in a show of moral courage. Read further into his bio...smart guy who married well, the daughter of the commanding general at West Point. Happen to catch Holly Petraeus on CSpan this week giving a report on military consumer issues...turns out she was the first person former Zero WH staffer and now Mass candidate for the Senate, Elizabeth Warren hired at the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to head the Office of Servicemember Affairs...guess he can't resign and come clean and jeopardize his post, his wife's, and his sons new military commission....

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ocjim, 10/27/2012 1:51:10 AM     (No. 8966154)

''When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?''

An American president would not have stood by and not send help. This not a birthplace issue. It is a state of mind, heart and soul issue. So next opportunity we get, we simply must elect an American president so these kinds of things do not happen.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: ocjim, 10/27/2012 2:03:44 AM     (No. 8966162)

Petraeus made his character suspect the moment he allowed himself to become a member of this administration. To become a member of this administration you must be judged to be someone Obama and his crew can do business with, and someone who will not go rogue on him. For example Bob Gates was a ostensibly decent Secretary of Defense but was found wanting the day he agreed to call Obama ''gutsy'' for green-lighting the mission to get bin Laden. That did not pass the smell test, Bob. Similarly it is entirely possible for Petraeus to be a brilliant Iraqi top General and at the same time be someone who would agree to head the Obama CIA and be ready to play ball with Obama. Entirely consistent. But again, to join this administration you have to be ''flexible.'' Men and women of true character would not even let themselves be considered for a position in this corrupt administration. They know what is required and will not abide it.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: AppleAnnie, 10/27/2012 2:35:53 AM     (No. 8966177)

Recall how Hillary treated Petraeus at a Senate hearing, ''...willing suspension of disbelief.'' No love lost there. What exactly do you want Patraeus to say? Heads of CIA rarely hold press conferences. Think of George H.W. Bush.

If Petraeus has anything to say it will be when time and circumstances are right or maybe never. He has other operations and assets to protect short and long term. In the meantime, Obama and the rest of those incompetent thugs wouldn't think of throwing him under the bus. He was never part of this crowd.



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Reply 33 - Posted by: Phil_hk, 10/27/2012 7:04:53 AM     (No. 8966320)

If I read the proper statement and not what a poster said Petraeus said the refusal came from above his pay grade. If so he directly implicated Obama without saying so.

Why did he wait this long, to give Obama time to come clean or the media time to do its job. If he'd said anything much sooner the press and the left would have called a George Bush stooge.

He had to give Obama enough rope to hang himself.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/27/2012 7:19:27 AM     (No. 8966349)

Watch your rear, Mr. Director! Fort Marcy park is but a short cab ride away.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 10/27/2012 7:47:28 AM     (No. 8966393)

We must remember that Valerie Jarrett, that evil little pixie, is the real acting pResident and not Øbama. When the 3AM call came in that Americans needed assistance in Benghazi, she is the one who took the call and Øbama just rolled over and went back to sleep so he could be "fresh" for his fundraiser in Las Vegas later that morning.
From what i have read, the two Navy Seals who rushed to help the ambassador were not following orders to stand down and watch Americans get murdered. When they engaged the enemy, that may be what fouled up Valerie's plans to "let" the ambassador get kidnapped so Øbama could look like a hero and "trade" the monstrous Blind Sheik for
Ambassador Stevens' freedom. So Øbama would look like a hero when he was really a scheming skunk in the whole affair. We've got a doozy of a slimeball for a pResident along with his whole regime. Sounds like the same distorted logic that gave us "Fast And Furious", with Americans being the losers in all of this.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 10/27/2012 7:54:23 AM     (No. 8966410)

BINGO. Now, I hope the Good General resigns today in the wake of this and tells the American People EXACTLY WHY!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/27/2012 8:00:48 AM     (No. 8966429)

Something tells me we still don't have half the story. The whole thing stinks. A consulate and CIA "annex" in no man's land? No military security? Now a giant coverup? What was the meeting with the Turkish guy just before the attack about? Iran-Contra had nothing on this.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: suejeanne, 10/27/2012 8:01:20 AM     (No. 8966431)

So distressing to contemplate what these guys went through in Benghazi - and when help did not arrive, if they had a spare moment to think why, did they think perhaps other things were going on over here as in 9/11/2001 and no one could send help?

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Reply 39 - Posted by: strike3, 10/27/2012 8:10:15 AM     (No. 8966453)

"There was presumably a rationale for such a decision."

That is an invalid assumption. Obama and ValJar didn't want to offend muslims, so they did nothing. As usual, Obama lied about it and continues to lie about it.

I do not find it surprising that Petraeus doesn't know what goes on in the coven within the White House. Don't blame him.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: papasparky, 10/27/2012 8:26:25 AM     (No. 8966485)

My age addled, simple country boy brain is spinning like a wheel of misfortune game where life and death decisions are made by "the luck of the spin".

Concerning the Petraeus appointment to CIA topic, my spin stopped one click short of bankrupt, on the segment which reads; "respectfully decline and enthusiastically recommend Colin Powell and move on to well earned retirement".

Side note: Amen to the "hoof print" description concerning Valkyrie Jarrett.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 10/27/2012 8:39:22 AM     (No. 8966508)

Here's a Democrat Talking Point that is appropriate:

What did the president know and WHEN did he know it?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Dallasobg, 10/27/2012 8:39:27 AM     (No. 8966509)

I agree with #36. Just watch the spinning begin.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/27/2012 9:25:23 AM     (No. 8966609)

Petraeus should resign and tell the truth about this whole situation. When the truth comes out, and it will, it will be too late to save his reputation. An honorable man would make sure these men did not die in vain.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Arby, 10/27/2012 9:41:41 AM     (No. 8966637)

I've been wondering when Petraeus would take off his invisibility cloak.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: sadc, 10/27/2012 9:46:46 AM     (No. 8966647)

Petraeus finally shows up and Boehner sends a letter. Wow,we all feel better. Had Pelosi been enthroned she would have been all over every network. What on earth are the leaders (HA?) of othe Repub. party doing
except for Issa and Chavitz? If Repubs win the House, I say Boehner takes his big gavel and pounds it as the leader of his own house and let Issa run the House of Reps. He can multitask and is not distracted by golf.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/27/2012 10:04:34 AM     (No. 8966684)

I vote for Ms. Kentucky Fried Chicken, ValJar, as central villain.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 10/27/2012 10:10:19 AM     (No. 8966703)

I agree that this has Valerie Jarrett's prints all over it. She was the one who refused three times to take out Osama bin Laden. 0bama doesn't do anything without her approval.

That said, if Petraeus were honorable he would be a whistleblower. I'm pretty sure that the DCIA cannot give such an order on his own. I'm also pretty sure that George Tenet would have acted much differently.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: so_free_me, 10/27/2012 10:54:00 AM     (No. 8966848)

The conspiracy theories are rather compelling! I can so see either of them: 1) a botched kidnapping and 2) a gun running scheme ala fast and furious. But would the Ambassador actually be a willing participant in the kidnapping? He would be crazy to take such a chance.

If Petraeus knows some underlying story he needs to tell us now. What are you trying to preserve by not telling the truth? The "integrity" of this administration?

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 10/27/2012 11:04:37 AM     (No. 8966889)

Every one knows how inept Ø is, and what more did we expect of him that night? Nothing more. However, the people who he has surrounded himself with, all 'agreers' and sycophants with little experience in the areas of their assigned responsibility all shoved the buck under his door, and they had to be among the ones who understand his level of ineptness better than any of us. It comes to this; the whole administration is made of entirely inept doofuses who are so cowardly under his eye, they can not function. If this nation has to suffer another four years of this, it is simply doomed.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/27/2012 11:32:18 AM     (No. 8966964)

Petraeus did not know Obama meant to trade Stevens for the blind sheik.

Petraeus did not order the Stand Down!

Now he knows and he's thrown Obama under the bus, and I'll bet you he's also leaking what Obama was up to in plotting to trade Stevens for the blind sheik.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Deedo, 10/27/2012 11:36:58 AM     (No. 8966982)

Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: saildreamer, 10/27/2012 12:08:21 PM     (No. 8967070)

I just don't see this as throwing Obama under the bus. He is removing himself from being under the bus. "No one at any level in the CIA (denied help)... claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate" doesn't mean the he is agreeing that someone asked for help and it was denied by someone other than the CIA. It seems to me that he is saying that no one asked for help.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: Dixie, 10/27/2012 12:34:37 PM     (No. 8967151)

Go back and read the #6 post if you have the time.

I'd been thinking all along that this smelled like another botched ValJar enterprise meant to manipulate American public opinion [like the Gulf Oil Spill---there was a visit and then a departure from an overseeing crew about 30 minutes before the explosion---(Cap 'n Tax), Fast and Furious--(Gun Control), the Flu Vaccine shortage--(National Health Care), etc.]...but I couldn't quite figure out how Benghazi was meant to play out.

I think #6 is on to something....


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Reply 54 - Posted by: santokitime, 10/27/2012 12:45:08 PM     (No. 8967183)

Well Petraeus has taken the wimps way out by doing it this way. He has not thrown Obama under the bus he has let it keep running.

Its time for the General to fall on his sword like an honorable professional soldier should do.

Resign and then tell the American people the truth. To not do so is to take the cowards way and to further the deceit of the communist now in control of this country.

Shame be on you Petraeus.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: The Advocate, 10/27/2012 12:47:29 PM     (No. 8967190)

Re 6
Agree.
Stevens for blind sheik.
Petraues is needed where he is to expose Obama and Iranian communist Val Jar.
Alternatively, why did Obama want Stevens dead?
Louis Farrakhan said it best when the fraud was sworn in by traitor justice Roberts, " there is a murderer in the WH."

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Reply 56 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 10/27/2012 1:25:56 PM     (No. 8967293)

I think Fox News conducted a walk through of the consulate well after the attack occurred. They showed the safe rooms steel gate that the terrorists couldn't get through. I wondered then why the terrorists just didn't fire a RPG and blow the gate open or throw a grenade into the room itself?Then they set the furniture on fire and go outside. They then try to get into the Control Center and don't blow the doors open. Why? And finally,how many terrorists did our Seals, and the 30 other personnel fighting kill or wound in the battle?

All and all something just stinks in this attacks scenario? What happened at the WH defies any logic I can think of?

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Reply 57 - Posted by: larryp, 10/27/2012 1:26:16 PM     (No. 8967294)

Kabuki is right. The National Front forthe Liberation of Libya (or whatev its name) is HQ'd there in Benghazi. That is why the office meritted the attention of Ambassador-level dip[lomat or diplomacy. About 70 counries have embassies in Tripoli. If Libya had 2 ambassadors something was going on.
The National Front we armed I think to fight Kadaffi. When did the flow of guns stop and did it stop?
Obama has said that AQ was on the run. When GWB left office AQ seemed pretty shaky, and in 3 countries. Now it is ins 30 countries.



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Reply 58 - Posted by: TrustButVerify, 10/27/2012 2:12:38 PM     (No. 8967400)

Sadly, the kidnapping scenario is plausible with this traitorous crowd. I'm so disappointed in Petraeus. One can only hope that he gets hold of himself and tells the truth. No honor in his present behavior and continued support of the evil, fraudulent empty suit. This administration is SOULLESS.



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Reply 59 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 10/27/2012 2:47:16 PM     (No. 8967493)

I'm with #2 on this. Jug Ears is ValJar's Merkin. She is the real power in the White House...

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Reply 60 - Posted by: M Stuart, 10/27/2012 2:59:22 PM     (No. 8967524)

Noquarterusa blog has a good analysis of this.

I think Petraeus parsed his words. This is part of the reason people really like the obnoxious/clever/great Chris Christie. He is so refreshing!


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Reply 61 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 10/27/2012 3:44:55 PM     (No. 8967627)

Any reasonable person could see that this pathetic spinning operation out of the White House
stinks to high heaven.
Other than FOX and a few conservative outlets,
the majority of the media have taken a dive in order
to protect Obama.
Sharyl Attkisson of CBS has shamed the men in the liberal media with her reporting.
This is worse than Watergate, worse than Iran Contra and looks to be much , much worse
than what we presently know.
General Petraeus has staked out his position ,
General Ham of AFRICOM has staked out his ,
Panetta and Hillary look like mendacious fools
and Obama looks like he's lying through
his giant teeth
or was never in the loop to begin with.
Imagine if President George Bush sat back and
allowed four black Americans,
including an Ambassador , to be slaughtered..
while he went to bed.
The media would have gone thermonuclear
and he would be on his way to impeachment
or defeat at the ballot box.
Both scenarios should be in play for Obama.
Valerie Jarrett best be looking for a good defense lawyer
because she's going to be left holding the bag.
Which of course will beg the question-
where was Obama during the crisis
and why did he transfer power to Jarrett ?



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Reply 62 - Posted by: lana720, 10/27/2012 4:39:59 PM     (No. 8967738)

Never cross our intelligence community - they know too much.

General Patraeus is a good soldier and a wonderful man. His guys will go where he leads them.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: my stars 22, 10/27/2012 5:03:49 PM     (No. 8967785)

Is it at all possible that General Petraeus agreed to serve as head of the CIA knowing how terribly critical it is for that position not to be controlled by Obama and his regime and that he is there holding the line for good reasons, protecting it from abuse by the Obama administration as much as he possibly can under the circumstances? Could it be that he is serving our country valiantly, albeit under duress, and may turn out to be an unsung hero? Just wondering. Someday we''ll know, hopefully.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 10/27/2012 5:55:41 PM     (No. 8967862)

it seems the same folks who are quick to decry General Petraeus are like the ones who turned on George W. Bush over a single lie about his position on amnesty.
He nor anyone else can tear into the the chain of command like junk yard dogs. Proof is built one layer at a time and the CIA live assets pool was almost completely negated by Panetta before he moved on to decimate the military.
No matter who did what or when the president is responsible for all high crimes
and blunders committed under his banner of office.
Will Barack H. Obama take that responsibility? NO! Vote him out

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Reply 65 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/27/2012 6:00:25 PM     (No. 8967872)

If Hussein is re-elected, God forbid, just as in Watergate the president is going to get impeached.

I still remember, as if seared into my brain, when the CIA tried to destroy the valiant George W Bush. They sent out Andrea Mitchell-Greenspan to say that Valerie Plame had been outed by someone linked to Chaney-Bush. It took years to get out of this false narrative. Since this one is true, the CIA leakers are going to be much more effective. It did not matter that Judith Miller went to prison to cover for Ricwhard Armitage and Colin Powell. Clinton better throw Hussein under the bus before she becomes the new Scooter Libby.

Ten more days!


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Reply 66 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/27/2012 6:16:31 PM     (No. 8967908)

I am sorry for Petraus. He must feel very bad and maybe cannot come forward agains his apResident. He should never have accepted the position of CIA Director under this horrible man.

Please do not ask Sagman to elaborate. It is just a waste of bandwidth.


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Reply 67 - Posted by: TinCan, 10/27/2012 7:04:16 PM     (No. 8968007)

One report states they "painted" a target so there may have been a gunship ('spectre) or fighter in the area otherwise why paint a target? If so, who called off the plane? Also, read that 2 gunships are in Libya. Not sure of source. Comments? JM (E-8 Ret.)

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Reply 68 - Posted by: sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 10/27/2012 9:05:34 PM     (No. 8968249)

#6 has seen through Obama's smoke and mirrors. I think he is probably correct. This would be the perfect game changer to make the president look powerful, giving the muslims another 4 years with their man in the White House and get their Blind Sheik back.

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Reply 69 - Posted by: Jenny 76, 10/27/2012 9:28:44 PM     (No. 8968297)

#24 - Add "republican" Colin Powell to them too. I wonder, do these people don't have brains or they are intimidated to death?
Could Obama be brought to justice after his presidency is over?

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