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Bursting at the seams:
Uncompromising pictures from
inside America's overcrowded
prison system show the cramped
lives lived by more than
two million inmates

Daily Mail (UK), by Steve Nolan

Original Article

Posted By:JoniTx, 10/26/2012 5:17:56 PM

These revealing pictures illustrate America's prison system at breaking point - with overcrowding in the nation's jails at its highest for eight years. Correctional institutions across the U.S are bursting at the seams with more than two million Americans behind bars. The worst hit state, California, houses 140,000 inmates when its 33 adult prisons are only designed to hold a maximum of 80,000. Overall, the Bureau of Prisons Network is around 39 per cent over 'rated capacity' - their highest level since 2004 - with that figure expected to soar to 45 per cent above its limit by 2018.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 10/26/2012 5:23:59 PM     (No. 8965181)

Pretty scary looking bunch. I would divert all those Obamaphone funds to building prisons - a lot more prisons. The trouble is - with California - the guards are paid like CEOs of a small company. Set up the prisons in TX and let the other states send their overflow.


Reply 2 - Posted by: JimS, 10/26/2012 5:26:30 PM     (No. 8965189)

How many of those prisoners are illegal aliens, and back in for a 2nd or 3rd time, instead of having been deported?


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Robinsolana, 10/26/2012 5:26:46 PM     (No. 8965191)

Send them over to Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio.


Reply 4 - Posted by: todalco, 10/26/2012 5:29:07 PM     (No. 8965202)

Well, boo hoo hoo!! Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. These prisons are far from being gulags. Put them on a chain gang digging ditches to nowhere so they can get some fresh air.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Linda Ann, 10/26/2012 5:31:58 PM     (No. 8965214)

Too bad. I think they should be put two to a bed. I'm sure their victims are really feeling sorry for them.


Reply 6 - Posted by: walcb, 10/26/2012 5:33:47 PM     (No. 8965220)

There is one nearly sure fire way to avoid arriving in this destination.


Reply 7 - Posted by: DW626, 10/26/2012 5:38:08 PM     (No. 8965234)

Build more prisons. The construction industry could certainly use the work.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: rubberneck, 10/26/2012 5:40:25 PM     (No. 8965239)

I've often heard that the USA has the highest percentage of incarcerated citizens of any "civilized" country. Do we need yet more cells? And at what price? $40k per year per inmate?

I hope prison is NEVER a pleasant place! There should be a deterrent effect - those who have done hard time should be VERY motivated not to go back! Overcrowded? Boo-freakin'-hoo!


Reply 9 - Posted by: Grumpy Yee, 10/26/2012 5:43:48 PM     (No. 8965247)

California has a large population in prisons of illegal criminals and they get treated better than the mentally ill or physically handicapped citizens of the state who could use this aid. Best solution is to put all the illegals on a one way bus, boat or train to Mexico and then hobble them so they can't sneak back into the US. Repeat felons need to have very large farms in the desert where they have to till the soil from sun up to sun down to have food to feed themselves. Then they too can produce all the food needed for the incarcerated prisoners who cannot be trusted in the general prison population. As far as death row goes, one appeal and no more. Law books removed from prison libraries so one shot is all they get. If it's the wrong person, God will be the judge and act accordingly. Harsh you bet, I've paid to dang many taxes to support this portion of society.
75 year old tax payer.


Reply 10 - Posted by: volksford, 10/26/2012 5:44:18 PM     (No. 8965251)

Result of no death penalty.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 10/26/2012 5:46:53 PM     (No. 8965260)

AS though this is something new. Giuliani had Rikers I. build tents to house the inmates when he did his clean-up. It worked! No one wanted to go live in the huge plastic circus tents. When I was a Prison Guard in New Mexico (right after the riot in 1980 thru 1996, we had them living in hallways, in double bunks- even housed them in the library, the Tv room and the mess hall! Once, we even called in the Nat. Guard to bring us canvass army tents. Amazingly, the inmates loved it. We finally built up housing to accommodate the convicts and the crisis was over. No one was hurt or really disadvantaged.


Reply 12 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/26/2012 5:52:01 PM     (No. 8965277)

The basic and only workable solution is to vote the Libs out Nov 6. This is entirely their creation.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: crimea river, 10/26/2012 5:58:11 PM     (No. 8965296)

The pictures look like most homeless shelters - minus the bars.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Kurto, 10/26/2012 5:59:29 PM     (No. 8965303)

Good argument for reinstating the death penalty.


Reply 15 - Posted by: halfnorsk, 10/26/2012 5:59:47 PM     (No. 8965304)

Discomfort should be at the core of prison life. It ain't supposed to be Club Med.


Reply 16 - Posted by: schnapps, 10/26/2012 6:00:15 PM     (No. 8965306)

My naval barracks were more crowded than this, but that was a long time ago and the residents looked more human.


Reply 17 - Posted by: phx4546, 10/26/2012 6:01:32 PM     (No. 8965313)

There is a choice and they are in control of it.

Don't do the crime and you will not do the time.

Simple isn't it?


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: kahlerbob, 10/26/2012 6:06:48 PM     (No. 8965330)

Remember, they are all volunteers.


Reply 19 - Posted by: trapper, 10/26/2012 6:08:24 PM     (No. 8965335)

Ahem ...working up my best Sam Kinison voice ...

I DON'T CARE!!!

They're CRIMINALS!!!

It's not supposed to be a vacation. IT'S PRISON!!!


Reply 20 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 10/26/2012 6:09:09 PM     (No. 8965338)

Thanks to the Prison Guard and other unions, the annual cost of incarceration per prisoner in CA is something on the order of 3 times any other state. Simple solution: outsource.


Reply 21 - Posted by: cartcart, 10/26/2012 6:09:23 PM     (No. 8965340)

Those poor, overcrowded people! What did they do to land in prison? Are they there because they were good, law-abiding citizens? Just wondering. My theory is this: There are three reasons to avoid a life of crime:
1. you could go to jail.
2. You offend the laws of our nation.
3. You could offend God.

I really worry more about the last two and that helps me to avoid the first one. I wish it would have worked for these jailbirds.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Theeo, 10/26/2012 6:12:01 PM     (No. 8965348)

Keep cramming them in, but build a HUGE animal shredder at the back door.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: phx4546, 10/26/2012 6:14:48 PM     (No. 8965352)

Be fair...don't even think that Sweeny Todd's meat pie product would ease the crowding.


Reply 24 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/26/2012 6:19:11 PM     (No. 8965363)

So reopen Alcatraz.

And #2 poses a very valid question.


Reply 25 - Posted by: lakerman1, 10/26/2012 6:24:34 PM     (No. 8965380)

Back in the good old days, there were some southern states that gave the death penalty to predicate felons. (3 felonies, you get fried.)
Because federal courts have so intruded into prisoner conditions, there are some young men who are safer and more comfortable in prison than back hoome in the ghetto.
I'm not a huge fan of the death penalty, but at some point, a criminal who repeats his or her behavior again and again, does not deserve to live.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Crosscut, 10/26/2012 6:25:45 PM     (No. 8965386)

These people are in prison because that's where they belong. They cannot be allowed on the streets with civilized people. These convicts are animals. Don't let them con you. Since they can't be gassed, all that can be done is build more prisons.


Reply 27 - Posted by: Kristen, 10/26/2012 6:29:42 PM     (No. 8965395)

Huge numbers are illegal aliens, many of whom have committed horrible crimes. However, these conditions are are like a luxury spa compared to those in Mexico and South American and the North Korean gulag.


Reply 28 - Posted by: frankb4now, 10/26/2012 6:33:38 PM     (No. 8965406)

Crowded? Spend 20 years in the Navy and find out what crowded is. I have no sympathy for 99% of these characters, we are all born wet behind the ears.......my childhood wasn't exactly a sparkling fairy tale.


Reply 29 - Posted by: Tulunk, 10/26/2012 7:18:14 PM     (No. 8965536)


Reply 30 - Posted by: uno, 10/26/2012 7:22:49 PM     (No. 8965552)

IMHO they should be put in one big one room building, throw in enough food for half of 'em, and let them sort it out.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Tulunk, 10/26/2012 7:31:59 PM     (No. 8965583)

First, I would put the most vicious in prison camps in the middle of a desert, miles from any human or any water. Hire retired servicemen as guards, and treat them well enough they won't be tempted by bribes. No TV, cook meals themselves , if they kill each other, dig the graves or live with the smell. For the drug users/dealers, activate one of the abandoned army or navy bases. Dorms there already. No guards, re-hab and education only. If they escape, can't come back. Off they go to a prison.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 10/26/2012 7:40:10 PM     (No. 8965604)

I wonder how many of these guys would be there if we enforced the death penalty for 3 time losers?


Reply 33 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/26/2012 7:44:28 PM     (No. 8965616)

California will need to make room for the Sacramento influx.


Reply 34 - Posted by: oriton, 10/26/2012 7:44:59 PM     (No. 8965617)

It's prison, not vacation.


Reply 35 - Posted by: CaptainLibra, 10/26/2012 8:00:13 PM     (No. 8965649)

Having spent several years in Alaskan waters, I have seen a bunch of remote islands in the Aleutian chain that would be perfect for these folks. Plenty of fresh air and natural beauty. Just off load them with a tent and sleeping bag, or even build huts, air drop in food and other supplies on a weekly basis and let them be. No guards needed. They cook, clean and police themselves in whatever manner they see fit. A doc/dentist could drop in monthly to take care of their physical needs. Bet that would cut the crime rate in half!


Reply 36 - Posted by: 4Justice, 10/26/2012 9:36:03 PM     (No. 8965826)

There are many reasons for this...

Reasons why they need to be incarcerated:

1) Our society has lost its way and people are more likely to commit crimes with no concern for the consequences or how it affects others. A lot of people have no conscience these days...like the bad seed.

2) Gangs are the biggest problem--look at the people in these photos. 90% of them are gang members. Biggest giveaway: hard faces, tattoos and shaved heads...

3) Illegal aliens make up a huge percentage of prisoners these days. They are most likely to commit crimes and think nothing of it or be part of a gang.

Reasons that show we need reform of our system:

1) The system no longer provides any means for people to start over and become productive members of society if they want to turn their lives around. There are people who can and want to straighten up but the system sets those people up for failure.

2) Being a drug addict only (not committing any other crimes besides taking drugs) should not be a criminal justice issue. It should be a medical/mental health issue. Education is greatly needed. If you commit other crimes (like steal to support your habit) then you should go to jail for that.

3) Excessive laws, mandatory minimum sentences and similar problems caused by politicians. We need major reform of our system to ensure that the worst people are punished the most and the people with mitigating circumstances get consideration for them.

BTW, we have the death penalty in CA still. However, it is on the ballot again.


Reply 37 - Posted by: LanieLou, 10/26/2012 9:51:11 PM     (No. 8965855)

Obama just used our $$ to buy that huge condo like prison by Chicago... the one congress said no to last year... Maybe that'll improve prisons... oh yeah... It's a transition prison for his Gitmo pals.


Reply 38 - Posted by: beancounter, 10/26/2012 10:21:07 PM     (No. 8965914)

Keep in mind, CA spends about double per inmate what many other states, for example TX and GA, spend. If CA had the some rules as other states we could easily house them all at no additional cost.


Reply 39 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 10/26/2012 11:17:20 PM     (No. 8965997)

Stack em up and have them sleep in shifts.
8 hours in the yard.
8 hours work.
8 hours sleep.
Feed them Army survival packets.
Outsource the guards.
Hire Sheriff Joe as a consultant.


Reply 40 - Posted by: jmeyer310, 10/26/2012 11:21:42 PM     (No. 8966005)

Sorry. No sympathy from me. Conditions aboard a US Naval vessels are much more crowded, especially aboard subs. There, they do what's known as "hot racking", where you get a bed (rack) for 8 hours, and when you crawl out another crew member crawls in. And we volunteered for it!!!


Reply 41 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/26/2012 11:45:56 PM     (No. 8966041)

They look clean, well fed, with fresh air, three meals, and clean linens.

No photos of their victims.


Reply 42 - Posted by: Reilly, 10/27/2012 1:39:18 AM     (No. 8966146)


Put them on a boat and send them to Cuba. That's what Castro did to us, and stupid Jimmy Carter accepted them.



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Anatomy of a Retail Failure

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Yahoo! Finance, by Jeff Macke    Original Article
Posted By: athina- 4/9/2013 9:45:34 AM     Post Reply
In a stunning end to one of the most aggressively unsuccessful tenures in retail history, JCPenney (JCP) last night announced that CEO Ron Johnson would be leaving effective immediately. Myron Ullman, Johnson´s predecessor at JCPenney, takes office as CEO. When Johnson was initially wooed by JCPenney, it was to serve as CEO with Ullman as Chairman. In January 2012, Ullman was unceremoniously removed from the board. Gone with Ullman was any control the Board of Directors had over Ron Johnson and his control of JCPenney resources.
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