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Joe Klein: "Crazy" Or
"Bigoted" If You Don't
Think Obama's Intelligent

Real Clear Politics, by Ian Schwartz

Original Article

Posted By:KarenJ1, 10/8/2012 10:32:44 AM

On this weekend's broadcast of the syndicated roundtable program "The Chris Matthews Show," panelist Joe Klein of Time magazine took exception to Romney surrogate John Sununu calling President Obama "lazy" on Andrea Mitchell's MSNBC program late last week. Mitchell, who was also a guest on Matthews' Sunday show, asked Sununu to apologize when she interviewed him. Sununu refused to do so. "I was clearly troubled," Mitchell said on "The Chris Matthews Show" this weekend. "Just using that phrase 'lazy' and attaching it to this president, to any president, but to this president had all sorts of resonance and

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This is beyond tiresome. There is no evidence whatsoever that 0bama is "intelligent." It's just more evidence why he will never produce his college transcripts. The truth would support what an empty suit he is.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bobgray2, 10/8/2012 10:39:48 AM     (No. 8917785)

OK Klein, you say 0bama is intelligent. Prove it. All we have to go on are his words, his actions, and the media's say so. His unscripted words and actions don't show much intelligence, and as for the media, well we don't think they are particularly intelligent in the first place, so how would they know?


Reply 2 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 10/8/2012 10:40:46 AM     (No. 8917788)

Andrea Mitchell is both.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 10/8/2012 10:43:30 AM     (No. 8917796)

How's that Time magazine circulation doing these days Joey?


Reply 4 - Posted by: JimS, 10/8/2012 10:45:50 AM     (No. 8917808)

Of course he is intelligent. But intelligent is a relative term. Intelligent compared to what?
A rock? Yes
A golden retriever? Yes
A Harvard grad? Maybe, because of diversity/AA admissions.
A white male Harvard grad? No
Mitt Romney? Absolutely not.


Reply 5 - Posted by: VinGoombatz, 10/8/2012 10:46:52 AM     (No. 8917815)

The mind works in two ways, like computer hardware and computer software.

Hardware/intelligence. Yes, Zippy has some intelligence, some capacity for cogitation.

Software/ideology. But, Zippy has ideology that leads to poverty and slavery to a political state. (he is far left)


Reply 6 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 10/8/2012 10:47:25 AM     (No. 8917817)

There is indeed scant objective evidence of Obama's alleged high intelligence. This is perhaps his fault: he refuses to release standard indicators of intelligence such as grades and standardized test scores. There is compelling reason to believe that he did not write Dreams From My Father after Jack Cashill's scholarly deconstruction of the work points to William J. Ayers as the author. We have no solid achievements or examples of excellence from which to infer remarkable intellectual ability in Obama. If one stands back and parses the data carefully, there are only three things to suggest that Obama is unusually intelligent: (1) he SOUNDS intelligent when he talks; (2) he attended Ivy League schools; (3) people like Joe Klein and others swear he is intelligent.

But SOUNDING intelligent is not the same as BEING intelligent. We all know why Obama was able to attend and graduate from Ivy League schools, and his refusal to release standard performance indicators strongly suggests they were nothing to boast about. As for people like Joe Klein and others - their passionate ideology obliges them to attribute positive qualities to Obama that exist only in their own minds.


Reply 7 - Posted by: disasterman, 10/8/2012 10:55:07 AM     (No. 8917836)

OK, I'll give you that 0bama is intelligent, but there are lots of intelligent losers without a bit of common sense out there.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: shalimar, 10/8/2012 10:56:47 AM     (No. 8917840)

Clearly Obama possesses above average intelligence. But no way is he what researchers in the field describe as "very bright." By contrast, Romney is. My estimate is that Romney has at least 30 IQ points on the Won.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 10/8/2012 10:59:03 AM     (No. 8917844)

Intelligent does not equate to being capable. So call him intelligent if you wish, he still can't do the job.


Reply 10 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/8/2012 10:59:40 AM     (No. 8917846)

More race baiting at Hate T.V.


Reply 11 - Posted by: JAN, 10/8/2012 11:00:25 AM     (No. 8917848)

I have gone from a vast right wing conspirator to a right wing thug and now I'm crazy and or bigoted.

All they have is personal slander at everyone who disagrees with them.

We need a tsunami next month. A simple wave might be overcome with fraud.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Grady, 10/8/2012 11:01:09 AM     (No. 8917852)

Donaldson chimed in. "Call me the worst name you can think of".

OK, Barack Obama.
Thats the worst name I can think of.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: jackson, 10/8/2012 11:01:54 AM     (No. 8917855)

Remember these morons nodded in agreement when Harvard's Michael Beschloss called Obama the most intelligent president ever.
And let's face it, Bammy is way smarter than Jefferson, or Lincoln, or Wilson, or Roosevelt (Teddy), or Washington, Madison, Adams and such... Harvard should be ashamed.


Reply 14 - Posted by: rayscain, 10/8/2012 11:08:13 AM     (No. 8917872)

It's OK to call Romney a "felon" and a "liar" but not OK to question 0's intelligence?


Reply 15 - Posted by: bluefindad, 10/8/2012 11:11:11 AM     (No. 8917884)

Depends on what 'lazy' means. If it means that someone is just a layabout who avoids having to expend energy, then Sununu is clearly in error. Obama expends large quantities of energy delivering speeches, attending fundraisers, traveling about on AF1, hitting the links, taking vacations and shooting hoops.

If Sununu's definition of lazy is that Obama avoids going to the office everyday and attending to the necessary duties that comprise the work and service of the PotUS - then yes, he certainly has a point.

The point is that people generally conflate the terms 'lazy' and 'layabout'. This clouds Sununu's point and gives the MSM a fingerhold of criticism. He might be better off giving Obama a new title, "MIA Presidente".


Reply 16 - Posted by: Hazymac, 10/8/2012 11:16:41 AM     (No. 8917901)

Well, maybe he's smart in comparison to you, Joe. All available evidence points to Obama being smart enough to sling a line of BS that suckers a few gulls. On the basis of what I've observed, I'd give Obama an IQ in the 105-118 range (which would have put him in the bottom quintile of my high school class). Any higher number would require one to believe the hype. Joe Klein probably rings the bell at around 90, which is, to put it politely, ot-nay oo-tay ight-bray.


Reply 17 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/8/2012 11:18:40 AM     (No. 8917906)

from Joe K's perspective, most anybody who could fog a mirror would be pretty smart.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: MickTurn, 10/8/2012 11:23:30 AM     (No. 8917915)

Arrogant, Dismissive, Crooked, Communist, Deceptive, Deceitful Yes, but not very intelligent.

Intelligent people recognize failure and don't repeat it...so there you go!


Reply 19 - Posted by: Douglas DC, 10/8/2012 11:36:09 AM     (No. 8917953)

Let's compare GPA's of Romney and 0-oh wait...


Reply 20 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 10/8/2012 11:38:23 AM     (No. 8917971)

Or observant, Joe.


Reply 21 - Posted by: john56, 10/8/2012 11:38:57 AM     (No. 8917973)

Obama is, as someone once told me, an example of someone educated beyond his intelligence.


Reply 22 - Posted by: toddh, 10/8/2012 11:55:36 AM     (No. 8918019)

I take off one IQ point for every million people killed by someone's political philosophy. Many socialists end up with negative IQs, and this severely messes up my subsequent entropy calculations.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: cheeflo, 10/8/2012 12:05:22 PM     (No. 8918040)

Obama has already publicly called himself lazy -- it's on the record, and straight from the horse's ... uh ... mouth.


Reply 24 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 10/8/2012 12:06:04 PM     (No. 8918041)

"When you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared."

Gotta love Sununu..


Reply 25 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 10/8/2012 12:07:46 PM     (No. 8918052)

Agree orig. poster, the narrative of Obama's intelligence is getting old and boring. He showed us exactly just how empty his suit is along with his head. No teleprompter with somebody telling him what to say, he is lost, vacuous and as said, empty.


Reply 26 - Posted by: KingBubo, 10/8/2012 12:16:19 PM     (No. 8918085)

Can anyone make a criticism of him without being racist. That is what urinated me off so bad about the last election.
Obama-black
McCain-veteran
Palin-woman

You coulnd't criticize any of them without someone playing each respective card.


Reply 27 - Posted by: TexasRed, 10/8/2012 12:18:51 PM     (No. 8918092)

Zero intelligent? NO!!
1. Needs teleprompter to talk to pre-schooler
2. Said there were 57 states
3. Did not know what capital gains were
4. Could not pronounce "corpseman" correctly
5. Cannot write sentences in which subject and verb agree in singular or plural.

Now tell me he is intelligent!!!


Reply 28 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/8/2012 12:21:20 PM     (No. 8918106)

At my company, Obama would be out on the left tail of the bell curve.


Reply 29 - Posted by: dman, 10/8/2012 12:23:20 PM     (No. 8918113)

Is Joe Klein intelligent? How about Karl Marx?

In my understanding, there are different types of "intelligence". One of them is "vision". Being able to see the forest for the trees. Relevant to intelligence are integrity and loyalty to one's country.

I don't question NerØbama's basic "intelligence". I do, however, question the intelligence of many of his supporters - like those who believe in "Obama-money" and "Obama-phones".


Reply 30 - Posted by: msctex1, 10/8/2012 12:26:49 PM     (No. 8918128)

He's average. Average in every way. Relentlessly, painfully common.


Reply 31 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 10/8/2012 12:31:54 PM     (No. 8918136)

Someone with high intelligence does not rely on using words like ''stuff'' or ''got'', or use trite analogies during important speeches.
And BTW, wasn't doesn't the Left return favor and call Romney lazy or stupid?


Reply 32 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/8/2012 12:50:05 PM     (No. 8918180)

I also don't thing Joe Klein is intelligent. Saying Obama is not intelligent is redundant.


Reply 33 - Posted by: plainjane, 10/8/2012 12:52:31 PM     (No. 8918186)

There's only one question people like Joe Klein ask when assessing someone's intelligence: How politically liberal is he?

This just proves how ignorant they are of facts, truth and reality.


Reply 34 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/8/2012 1:00:41 PM     (No. 8918212)

Easy to determine who's smarter.

Let's see college and law school transcripts.

I'll think what I want absent evidence to the contrary.


Reply 35 - Posted by: wlit22z, 10/8/2012 1:08:55 PM     (No. 8918237)

There is no objective evidence that the Mulatto Kid is any more intelligent than the average person in the US.

Sure, he went to college and law school but there is no evidence that he did well at either of those pursuits. And since he won't release his records, we can only conjecture from what we know and have seen for the last several years.

If I was interviewing him for a job, he'd probably not get past the first go 'round and would not make it to an interview with the dept. manager. He has few or no skills, abilities, or knowledge.

He's a good example of why affirmative action is such a loser. The same goes for his Dissatisfied Spouse. And they have surrounded themselves with other losers.


Reply 36 - Posted by: arminius, 10/8/2012 1:38:23 PM     (No. 8918287)

Klein and Mitchell were quick to associate "lazy" and "black people."

Perhaps they need to go to re-education camps?

As they say, if only you can hear the dog whistle, then apparently you're the dog.


Reply 37 - Posted by: OBX Pete, 10/8/2012 1:43:30 PM     (No. 8918294)

What is this Joe Klein dude talking about?

There is nothing worse than the hateful trash that he writes about conservatives in Time magazine.


Reply 38 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 10/8/2012 1:47:50 PM     (No. 8918303)

I think what it is is that you are intelligent if you think Obama is crazy and bigoted. There, fixed it.


Reply 39 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/8/2012 1:48:34 PM     (No. 8918305)

#4, I once had a Golden Retriever who would have run circles round Zippy.


Reply 40 - Posted by: Epirb, 10/8/2012 2:46:45 PM     (No. 8918456)

Compared to lint, Obama IS intelligent. BTW, Andrea, keep fawning and bowing and scraping before Obama and if he wins the upcoming election, you just might become part of Obama's personal press corps, the very thought of which has left you breathless in anticipation the past 4 years. You might even replace the inept Jay Carney!


Reply 41 - Posted by: Sherlock, 10/8/2012 2:56:40 PM     (No. 8918487)

For libtards, everything in their immature lives is bragging about being the smartest, their sex lives, body parts, and skin color.
They can`t give their selves enough praise, trophy's, and cool or god-like names.


Reply 42 - Posted by: pigop, 10/8/2012 3:52:39 PM     (No. 8918625)

Let me see his transcripts and I will make the judgment as to the level of his intelligence. For now it's he said, she said...that doesn't hold water my "friend".


Reply 43 - Posted by: jorgecito, 10/8/2012 5:25:17 PM     (No. 8918822)

Joe Klein doesn't get it that it is HE who is bigoted when he throws the hate-word "bigot" at anyone who dares to criticize Obama.

The phrase that was coined to describe the Joe Kleins of this world? "Soft bigot..."
as in "... the soft bigotry of low expectations."


Reply 44 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 10/8/2012 5:51:52 PM     (No. 8918874)

Have to agree there is little evidence of 0’s supposed brilliance.

One of the best indicators is his response after the debate. When 0-bama speaks, he’s invariably reading someone else’s words, so the “zingers” he’s delivering days later have been crafted for him to recite – the ultimate in pathetic. Obviously, this doesn’t work in a debate – where he actually has to do his own thinking and speaking.

The media and 0-bama camp knew this was coming – they tried to squelch expectations beforehand. There are a lot of people behind the scenes that KNOW 0-bama is an empty suit. They hoped to so damage Romney beforehand that it wouldn’t matter.

But for all of their “strategerizing” they “misunderestimated” their opponent.


Reply 45 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/8/2012 5:54:35 PM     (No. 8918880)

Obama = garbage in, garbage out.


Reply 46 - Posted by: stanley, 10/8/2012 7:16:53 PM     (No. 8918983)

Joe Dekleined


Reply 47 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/8/2012 11:35:17 PM     (No. 8919382)

Ok. Call me crazy and bigoted.


Reply 48 - Posted by: LadyVet, 10/9/2012 9:01:09 AM     (No. 8919846)

Agree w/ #33. Joe Klein equates liberal politics to intelligence. Therefore, since Obama is a radical leftist, he is the most intelligent president ever. He is so smart, he can improve on Jefferson and Madison's ideas, he can see all the flaws in their thinking as embodied in the Constitution. Just give him four more years, and he'll correct the whole system. /s



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Put out an all-points bulletin: Millions of Americans have gone missing from the workforce. Every month that those would-be workers are gone raises the odds that they might never come back, dimming the prospects for future economic growth. The vanishing trend is more than a decade old, but it accelerated during the Great Recession. Throughout 2012, economists held out hope that it had stopped. But then came Friday’s jobs report, and hopes were dashed. The Labor Department reported that the U.S. labor force — everyone who has a job or is looking for one — shrank

White House Blames Jobs
Numbers on Sequester

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Wynton Hall    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/5/2013 8:02:58 PM     Post Reply
The Obama White House is scrambling to blame Friday’s abysmal March jobs numbers on the sequester’s trimming of the rate of growth in federal budgets that have yet to fully commence. After the Labor Department announced that a mass exodus of 663,000 workers left the U.S. workforce last month and that job creation fell 112,000 jobs short of projections, Obama’s top economic adviser Alan B. Krueger, took to the White House blog to blame the sequester: It is important to bear in mind that the March household and payroll surveys are the first monthly surveys to look

The Secrets of Princeton
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New York Times, by Ross Douthat    Original Article
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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —

Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th
anniversary in Havana, Cuba

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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/6/2013 8:20:04 AM     Post Reply
Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for

Obama Budget to Cap Retirement
Accounts at $3 Million

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Tony Lee    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/5/2013 9:40:39 PM     Post Reply
The budget President Barack Obama will submit on April 10 will contain a proposal that would prohibit individuals from accumulating more than $3 million in Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs) and tax-preferred retirement accounts. According to a White House statement, the Obama administration believes the current rules allow some wealthy individuals "to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving." "The budget would limit an individual’s total balance across tax-preferred accounts to an amount sufficient to finance an annuity of not more than $205,000 per


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