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Update: Tanks in the streets as
Venezuelan electoral council
declares Hugo Chavez victory

Daily Caller, by Matthew Boyle

Original Article

Posted By:Photoonist, 10/8/2012 12:56:58 AM

Update 10:50 p.m.: According to the Associated Press, Venezuela’s electoral council has declared that Hugo Chavez beat Henriques Capriles in Sunday’s presidential election with about 54 percent of the vote, despite exit polls showing otherwise. Venezuela Twitter users have claimed Chavez’s victory was wrought with election fraud, and that the socialist incumbent president sent tanks into the streets of his country as those exit poll reports showed him losing. A picture of the tanks surfaced on Twitter Sunday evening. (Snip) A Spanish news outlet reported earlier on Sunday that exit polls showed Capriles defeated the socialist president by a narrow

Comments:
Uh, so who would have expected Massive Fraud? Pretty much anybody with a brain. Pre-election polls and estimates didn't show that Chavez could win by anywhere near 10 points. Just like the Marxists say: One man, One vote, One time. All other elections are phony.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 10/8/2012 12:59:19 AM     (No. 8917180)

Preview of November 7th, USA?

I would not put it past this traitor.


Reply 2 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/8/2012 1:00:12 AM     (No. 8917182)

This makes my blood run cold. A template for our own elections?


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: TXknitter, 10/8/2012 1:06:05 AM     (No. 8917185)

Ooh, #1, it's frightening to think so. I believe as long as our leaders refuse to stop, prosecute or execute any sort of justice upon Democrats then it isn't crazy to think it could happen someday.


Reply 4 - Posted by: kono, 10/8/2012 1:11:32 AM     (No. 8917187)

My thoughts, too, #1.


Reply 5 - Posted by: pickle1, 10/8/2012 1:16:56 AM     (No. 8917193)

This guy didn't win. We all know that.


Reply 6 - Posted by: steveW, 10/8/2012 1:28:13 AM     (No. 8917207)

Tanks are more effective than Black Panthers. I wonder what Obama will choose to ensure the vote moves "forward" in November?


Reply 7 - Posted by: spinpilot, 10/8/2012 1:40:01 AM     (No. 8917216)

sounds like November USA....


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: horacer, 10/8/2012 1:51:25 AM     (No. 8917225)

Those are armored personnel carriers, not tanks. Looks like Chavez was ready to deploy infantry on the streets.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 10/8/2012 1:52:32 AM     (No. 8917226)

If anything happens, I would more expect a military coup in the event that Obama wins another four years. I don't think the armed forces will be able to stand it!


Reply 10 - Posted by: kiwinews, 10/8/2012 1:59:58 AM     (No. 8917229)

Ex Prez Jimmy Carter vouched for Chvez's first election in the face of howls of "Fraud!", at this hour let's not forget to give thanks where it's due. Truly the gift that keeps on giving.


Reply 11 - Posted by: DaisyMae, 10/8/2012 2:53:20 AM     (No. 8917241)

Poster #1, I agree. Homeland security has purchased how many rounds of ammo? Pray tell, why would Homeland Security need this amount of fire power? After all we have the Armed Forces, and what is Janet Napolitano's objective?

Maybe more Fast and more Furious.


Reply 12 - Posted by: john56, 10/8/2012 3:41:26 AM     (No. 8917249)

Whatja know? Chavez' thugs have trunks full of ballots in their car trunks, too.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Lala, 10/8/2012 4:59:15 AM     (No. 8917267)

Sean Penn must be so proud.


Reply 14 - Posted by: srhcb, 10/8/2012 6:01:52 AM     (No. 8917287)

Chavez had to keep the polls open late to accommodate all the dead people from Chicago who wanted to vote.


Reply 15 - Posted by: JimS, 10/8/2012 6:51:04 AM     (No. 8917312)

I'm guessing Empty Chair sent some of his "political consultants" from Chicago down to Venezuela to help Hugo "get out the vote."
They needed the practice for Nov 6th


Reply 16 - Posted by: John c, 10/8/2012 6:53:15 AM     (No. 8917315)

They sure counted fast. Even the absentee votes counted by Sunday night./s


Reply 17 - Posted by: uno, 10/8/2012 6:59:28 AM     (No. 8917323)

I swear I saw an Obama/Biden bumper sticker on at least one of those tanks...


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: oh-heck, 10/8/2012 7:20:00 AM     (No. 8917343)

The last news I had read before going to sleep last night was that the polls had remained open because of a long line. I'll bet like before the very late votes ALL were for Chavez, and that the late surge represented 30% of the total vote.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 10/8/2012 7:20:13 AM     (No. 8917344)

#1, #3 and others--gun shops just might see a surge in sales this week. A shortage in ammunition wouldn't surprise me at all. Too many people are aware of the tricks that can be pulled and the high likelihood of something unexpected happening.

#17--your comment reminds me: local ordinances here prevent political signs being put out until 30 days before the election. We drove around yesterday and were tickled to see many Romney/Ryan and Tim Scott signs adorning front yards in our neighborhood and the one next door. They suddenly sprang up overnight, like mushrooms! Not a one for Obama, although I suspect there will be one or two later.


Reply 20 - Posted by: rplat, 10/8/2012 7:22:33 AM     (No. 8917348)

Will the US military comply when Obama orders tanks in the street?


Reply 21 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/8/2012 7:23:03 AM     (No. 8917349)

Please let us see Joe Bite-me wearing a helmet, Dukakis-style, sitting in the turret of an Abrams tank on Pennsylvania Avenue! Please, Zero, please!


Reply 22 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 10/8/2012 7:55:05 AM     (No. 8917410)

This is dire in Venezuela, but it's not here, yet. I don't want to get all squirrelly because Chavez cheated his way into another ''term''.

Our military may well keep its collective oath to the Constitution and to defend US, and not to the person. But there are more and more Affirmative Action enlistees, actual embedded Black Panthers wouldn't surprise me, and upper ranks are being populated with perfumed princes who 'yessir' their way up. These young men and women have been brought up to believe that the government does everything for them. And when 'one of theirs' tells them We the People are causing trouble and need to be quelled, they will unthinkingly obey. What that number or percentage is, I don't know.

Regardless of how many obey their consciences instead and refuse to march on us, they will still have all the big toys.

The biggest hope we have is the difference between Venezuela and America....WE are AMERICANS.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: Grace Veritas, 10/8/2012 8:10:02 AM     (No. 8917442)

Wouldn't it be "fraught with election fraud" or "wrought by election fraud"?


Reply 24 - Posted by: PageTurner, 10/8/2012 8:21:59 AM     (No. 8917461)

Chavez may have 'won' but there was nothing free or fair about it. 80% turnout? I find that hard to believe, given the discontent in that country. It just goes to show how hard it is to dislodge a dictator. The only country that managed to do it was Chile, which had a Pinochet. If Chile didn't have a Pinochet, they'd still be fighting this sort of Marxism by the ballot box. How's Chile doing these days since Pinochet? And who will be the Venezuelan Pinochet?


Reply 25 - Posted by: Marcus Tullius, 10/8/2012 8:37:11 AM     (No. 8917486)

#20
Not no, but "HELL NO!"


Reply 26 - Posted by: LZK, 10/8/2012 8:38:44 AM     (No. 8917490)

Oh yeah -- 10 points behind and he wins.....? He may have "stolen" this election -- BUT -- he can't steal the hearts and minds of his people. They will overcome...

The smouldering opposition will not make it easy for the dictator.....

As far as "our" election -- don't under/estimate the republicans. They know what they're dealing with, i.e. the chicago thugs....

LZK


Reply 27 - Posted by: Crosscut, 10/8/2012 9:14:58 AM     (No. 8917548)

This could very easily happen in the U.S. if we let it. Everyone must go vote and get Obama out of the Oval Office and take away ALL Democrat control of our government.


Reply 28 - Posted by: smidgen, 10/8/2012 9:23:49 AM     (No. 8917569)

This is what worries me about our close polls. Since they are surely being manipulated I fear it is to avoid any "disturbance" after the election when there is fraud. Zero wins --as possible by the close polls-- so we accept it?


Reply 29 - Posted by: sadc, 10/8/2012 9:24:52 AM     (No. 8917570)

The only goal for Alinsky-ites is power and revolution. They don't quite know what to do then so it becomes totalitarianism everywhere they have tried this. If we have voter fraud, there will be no prosecution by AG Holder. We had better plan for a landslide. This man said it was his last election. Could he mean it is the last election for this nation now that he has "fundamentally changed it"? His wife said "Barack won't let you go back to the way you were" What did they openly say and no one listened?


Reply 30 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/8/2012 9:47:12 AM     (No. 8917627)

I'm sure his buddy Obama is paying close attention.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 10/8/2012 9:54:32 AM     (No. 8917649)

Clever of Chavez to hold an "election", instead of crudely just declaring himself "President for Life." For a Commie dictator, he has some finesse, or a sardonic sense of humor, or something. The tanks are a nice touch.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Speedypetey, 10/8/2012 10:06:44 AM     (No. 8917692)

Do you wonder if Iran and Venezuela have the same vote rigging algorithm? To gain some integrity maybe they need Diebold electronic voting machines and then they can count the vote in Spain by a Soros company. Good Idea?


Reply 33 - Posted by: Conservativegirl, 10/8/2012 10:10:01 AM     (No. 8917707)

Sadly, I think Chavez won legitimately. Venezuela suffers from the same thing we do - - an ever-growing stupid, lazy, entitled citizenry. They've elected to continue circling the bowl. Will we?


Reply 34 - Posted by: luandir, 10/8/2012 10:16:56 AM     (No. 8917725)

God has yet to weigh in on term limits for Mr. Chavez.


Reply 35 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/8/2012 10:27:32 AM     (No. 8917749)

I've Been Saying For Years

The Democratic Party here test-markets their electoral frauds overseas in other elections.

Think I'm crazy?

Two years before the hanging chad fraud in Florida, South Africa amazingly had the same problem, with the same complaints, lawsuits and media-managed push to invalidate election results based on what was perceived to be incomplete paper punches.

Exact.

Then it showed up here.

Look to your moats, lads. Look to your moats.


Reply 36 - Posted by: lonestarm3, 10/8/2012 10:28:53 AM     (No. 8917758)

I think ConservativeGirl got it right.

Chavez gives his entitlement voters gasoline for 12 cents/gallon. Wait till Obama figures out how to give free gasoline to his base without helping us blood-sucking-rich-people-who don't-pay-our-fair-share.


Reply 37 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 10/8/2012 10:33:14 AM     (No. 8917769)

Exactly, #1 and others. Our Marxist Traitor could well try the same stunt, unless Romney/Ryan, in particular, and America in general shut him down.


Reply 38 - Posted by: artlover, 10/8/2012 11:28:47 AM     (No. 8917931)

#38 how do you shut them down? They are so crooked, they are getting away with anything now. Why do you think it will be any different on election day? Also, I hear that Obama is going to start a war with Iran if he thinks he is going to loose this election. He would kill every American in this country with radiation, I guess, just to get his way. Of course, he and his buddies will find a way to be protected. People in Venezuela are helpless just like we will be if Obama wants this bad enough and I think he does, just like Chavez.


Reply 39 - Posted by: Ronaldus Magnus, 10/8/2012 11:39:14 AM     (No. 8917975)

The announcement that a Marxist/Communist/Stalinist/Community Organizing thug cheated during an' election is akin do announcing that bears poop in the woods. And, as Bill Ayers stated, 25 to 30 million will not go along with the 'revolution' and will have to be eliminated.


Reply 40 - Posted by: lencu255, 10/8/2012 12:45:57 PM     (No. 8918171)

Let me get this straight: if exit polls were 55:45 for the opposition guy, then interpolating/extrapolation the fear of commie/fascist chavez would all 10 more points to the score - meaning 65:35 for Capriles.
But what do you expect from the dictator? Fairness, honesty, conscience?...
He is the man of steel, like hitler, stalin, castro and kim il sung!
Btw, stalin was winning with the score 99.9999% and no opposition! chavez is generous!


Reply 41 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/8/2012 12:55:01 PM     (No. 8918197)

NO, I'm buying into the idea that Obozo would try something like this here in America. One very good reason. We have something that virtually no other country on earth has, including Venezuela. We have a 2nd amendment. And remember, there are a lot more guns in the hands of private citizens in this country that what the military has. And most of these private citizens are not going to allow their freedoms be taken away from them. As far as the military is concerned, I'm not worried about them. Far too many of them are patriots and understand that part of not having to obey an illegal order. Voter fraud, however, is another matter entirely. All of us need to keep our vigilance at a high level during the election.


Reply 42 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 10/8/2012 1:08:14 PM     (No. 8918235)

Chavez may have won - recall that our founding fathers were always wary of democracy's tendency to turn into rule by the urban mobs.

That's what we would have to worry about if it were not for things like the electoral college. Of course, open-borders could bring it about as we are seeing destructive political decisions made in previously 'sane' places like CA.

Don't have a pliant mob to further your Big Government agenda? Import one!


Reply 43 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 10/8/2012 3:50:41 PM     (No. 8918621)

If our tanks are in the streets they won't be there trying to keep Obama and the comicrats in power.


Reply 44 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/8/2012 5:26:14 PM     (No. 8918824)

#15, perhaps so. Look up how Obama helped his comrade Odinga overthrow a legal election in Kenya in 2007.


Reply 45 - Posted by: kctiger, 10/8/2012 6:49:45 PM     (No. 8918952)

Someone stated the diference between Venezuela and here is "WE ARE AMERICANS". Fact is, people who vote Democrat are Dems first and Americans 2nd. Always have been, and that's why I vote Repub most of the time. They are at least Americans first and R's 2nd.


Reply 46 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/8/2012 8:24:07 PM     (No. 8919089)

Would be very interesting to see how Hugo padded the ballot boxes with the extra ballots. Like this would be any surprise to us here in the USA.



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Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, considered by some to be a potential Republican contender for president, apologized to Johns Hopkins University for the "poorly chosen words" he used in expressing his opposition to gay marriage last month.“I am sorry for any embarrassment this has caused,” Carson said in the letter, reported in New York Magazine.(Snip) "Although I do believe marriage is between a man and a woman, there are much less offensive ways to make that point. I hope all will look at a lifetime of service over some poorly chosen words.” Carson will remain as commencement speaker at Johns Hopkins,

The Secrets of Princeton
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New York Times, by Ross Douthat    Original Article
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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —

Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th
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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad    Original Article
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for


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