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Anatomy of a Disastrous
Debate Performance

PJ Media, by Victor Davis Hanson

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 10/7/2012 6:26:25 PM

The Romney-Obama debate was bizarre for so many reasons. Usually spin masters needle the media immediately to “prove” that their so-so candidate won. But after this debate, almost no one made the argument that Obama was close to winning — so great was the risk for even a toadying media to look ridiculous and so clear-cut the ineptness of the president. Instead, the eventual spin veered to why Obama lost (e.g., altitude, a supposed tranquilizer, a supposed mysterious Kleenex for Romney, a national security crisis, etc.) and was the stuff of fantasies.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: JAN, 10/7/2012 6:45:34 PM     (No. 8916569)

Obama knew in the first five minutes that he was not going to be allowed to lie to Gov. Romney's face.

He waited until the next day when Romney was not there to defend himself to spew more lies.

He's sent his surrogates to lie lie and lie some more.

Pathetic loser.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Srhea, 10/7/2012 6:49:32 PM     (No. 8916575)

What did anyone expect from a lazy, disconnected from his job, puffball president. He doesn't do his job, he only parrots what his handlers put on the teleprompter, and when it comes time for him to man up - nothing, vapid and empty, there is nothing there.
An empty bag of hot air is about the best we can explain it. Heated up by who knows what others are pulling this puppets strings?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: nolibgal, 10/7/2012 6:52:33 PM     (No. 8916578)

tut tut!! Juan Williams completely defended Obama. He looked right at the camera soon after the debate and declared Obama the winner. He did not back down.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: lil dotty, 10/7/2012 6:56:21 PM     (No. 8916581)

He is fighting for ME?? Don't think so. He can't even fight for himself. The governor was Batman and oh dark won fell way short as Robin....some super hero, huh? Unable to even drive the bat-mobile.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: EQKimball, 10/7/2012 7:12:03 PM     (No. 8916594)

"The realization that another rant by a liberal commentator could cement the reputation of Obama as an incompetent and add to the image of a hopelessly inept president will temper post-debate media anger. The moderator cannot afford to be laissez-faire in the fashion of Jim Lehrer, and will prove far more partisan." Count on it. This is war, and they will not go down without a bitter fight. The headlines for Oct. 17 have already been written. Obama will be the winner, your opinion be damned.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Robinsolana, 10/7/2012 7:42:23 PM     (No. 8916644)

From historian Victor Davis Hanson and thoughtful description of the melting credibility of Teleprompter Obama.
And, the leftist media are mad and feel betrayed.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: CaptainLibra, 10/7/2012 8:01:11 PM     (No. 8916682)

I loved Mark Steyn's description of BHO during the debate as "the listless sourpuss staring at his shoes." Perfect description of our CinC last week. America should be ashamed!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 10/7/2012 8:22:26 PM     (No. 8916721)

Someone compared Juan Williams to a crash dummy. When I'm forced to look at him that's all I can think of. Between him and Bob Beckel I can't think of anyone more obnoxious. Oh wait, I just thought of one more guy.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 10/7/2012 8:39:18 PM     (No. 8916744)

A razor-sharp analysis by VDH. The media will now pull out all they have to rescue their boy. It's going to be disgusting, folks, take an extra blood pressure pill. I think we have an October surprise similar to the George H.W. Bush lies about an affair coming. It was a lie but they ran with it in the weeks leading to the election. After all, lying for the 'right cause' is acceptable to these POS.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/7/2012 9:43:16 PM     (No. 8916889)

#3, Juan Williams was still claiming Obama won the debate several days later on Hannity's radio show. I couldn't believe it, but then I realized it was Juan Williams, and that's what he does.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 10/8/2012 7:46:24 AM     (No. 8917396)

Romney made his fortune in part by squelching fatuous fools who had run businesses into the ground.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Maybeth, 10/8/2012 8:43:04 AM     (No. 8917500)

Juan Williams has offered himself in sacrifice upon the Alter of Amorality. In wondering why, I have to assume it's all about ethnicity. How sad, because that makes him a hugh racist.

The presidential debates are nothing more than an set-up to play 'gotcha' with Mitt Romney and, for that matter, all Republican candidates who came before this day. Only Newt had the guts to tear them apart during one such debate .... to great applause, I might add.

I have little doubt that the moderators will continue to 'rescue' their lame candidate when necessary. Who can forget Georgie Porgie's interview with Obama, who referred to his 'Muslim faith?' Georgie quickly reminded the president that he meant to say his 'Christian faith.'

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LZK, 10/8/2012 8:44:15 AM     (No. 8917501)

Someone told the bamster -- he could be "king".......

He believed it -- and enjoys all the "extras" perks that come with being the prez. He didn't know -- however -- being prez is a JOB and he would be called on to lead. Not from a teleprompter -- but -- from his ability.

Nuff said!!

LZK

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/8/2012 8:57:10 AM     (No. 8917521)

Romney has always been better positioned than the biased media and their captive pollsters were willing to allow. Now they are seven months pregnant and they can't hide it anymore. I predict a bouncing eight pound Republican baby on Nov 6.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: saucy, 10/8/2012 8:58:55 AM     (No. 8917522)

....remember Valerie Garrett's first interview with Tim Russet?

She made slip of tongue an said, ".....when we rule....."

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Reply 16 - Posted by: The Patriot Code, 10/8/2012 8:59:48 AM     (No. 8917524)

Obviously, that debate format was raaaaacist.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: gaeditor, 10/8/2012 9:08:53 AM     (No. 8917539)

More than anything, Hansen calls attention to the most horrible aspect of our culture- children brought up (like Obama) without having much of anything demanded of them. (They even tried to make kids stop working on their parents’ farms???) If you just paid attention, and understood that, you knew better than to vote for him. (137 “present” votes??)

One poster here, who teaches, said on another article that his urban students were horribly disappointed in Obama’s debate performance. Tragic.Those kids (and their parents) don’t get it –nor do the host of liberal idiots Hansen names. You get to success, to self-realization, empowerment, whatever –through trial and error. By doing –doing it wrong and then doing it again until its right. So many kids are being deprived of that! (And the ones that aren’t stand out by a mile!)

That’s why our parents did things like gave us those piano lessons, etc. –to learn, not the skill of piano playing, but competence, to learn discipline and how it builds success. Good schools do that. Bad parents don’t.

Anyone looking at Obama’s life –including the last three years-would be an imbecile to expect anything else of him.



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Reply 18 - Posted by: gonavy, 10/8/2012 9:09:08 AM     (No. 8917540)

two things I noticed in the debate that haven't been talked about or reported that I've seen.

First, did you notice that when the question had something to do with how each of them would work with members of the opposition party TOTUS got in his obligatory, I got Bin Laden soundbite - apropos of nothing pertinent in the current discussion. That's his crutch right now and it doesn't even belong to him; the SEALS and the army pilots are the heros.

Second did you notice how often TOTUS was nodding his head in agreement with Gov. Romney? It was so weird, he was being slammed and he just kept nodding in agreement. He's so use to sycophants telling him what he wants to hear that he didn't even register what was being said to and about him.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: berlin, 10/8/2012 9:18:30 AM     (No. 8917557)

As 0bama, Williams has now moved to mute-button status on my TV.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Grambo, 10/8/2012 9:20:03 AM     (No. 8917560)

The leftists in the Democrat Party and the MSM are furious with Obama because they have taken their best shot in 50 years at transforming the Republic into Euro-America, and their meticulously groomed and prepped ball carrier has fumbled the ball. And they realize too late in the day that they made a fool’s mistake to think that an unaccomplished, undisciplined, untested lazy Choomster was not Presidential material, but rather a certain failure waiting to happen.

The left’s most excellent Presidency has proved to have feet of sand, and the once-and-for-all American Socialist Reformation is not to be.


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Reply 21 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/8/2012 9:30:48 AM     (No. 8917590)

Twas the alpha male vs. the metrosexual. Obama was just having a low testosterone night.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: fysammy, 10/8/2012 9:40:30 AM     (No. 8917605)

Lehrer: "Mr. President do you have a response To Governor Romney's assertion that you are lacking on the facts?"

Obama: "Present"

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 10/8/2012 9:47:09 AM     (No. 8917625)

Victor Davis Hanson is on target once again. As he points out, Obama has been so pampered and protected by the MSM and opinion-shapers in general that he is actually unable to perform on his own unaided. Hanson's point that Obama sees himself as the representative of the preoccupations and neuroses of the liberal "intellectual" class is right on.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Lalo, 10/8/2012 9:47:10 AM     (No. 8917626)

#17, speaking of the teacher's black students being horribly disappointed in The Won's debate performance - I live in a large southern city among many blacks, and the shame is palpable. I actually feel sorry for them.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: msctex1, 10/8/2012 9:50:02 AM     (No. 8917635)

Here in Houston, for decades there was a sign on the back fence of a home off of Westpark, which is a road locals use to avoid freeway traffic because it is unusually fast and wide. The sign said, "Vote Democratic."

About four months after Obama's election, the word "SUCKERS" appeared in black paint. I very much regret not getting a picture.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Arby, 10/8/2012 10:00:22 AM     (No. 8917670)

Mensch vs. illusion.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/8/2012 10:28:01 AM     (No. 8917754)

Doesn't matter the 47% of the nation.

And the other 210% the Democrats will get to the polls who don't exist, are dead, are aliens, or who were dogs and cats until 20 minutes before voting.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/8/2012 10:39:36 AM     (No. 8917784)

To bolster my point - just saw this elsewhere ...

On Twitter

If Romney wins Ima Shoot his *** Its Gonna Be another JFK insident

Romney is trying to ban tampons. Omg. I’m not even kidding, someone go with me so we can shoot him dead.

If i could i would murder mitt romney #idgaf #hatethatwhiteracist****

I’ll shoot mitt romney & both of his knee caps & smack his *** with the BuRner til he die

I just wanna assassinate Romney… I hate him.

Romney need his white *** kneecaps blown off black ppl ain‘t the problem it’s lazy rich ******* like him who never scrubbed a pot before!!!

The rest are definitely unsuitable to post here

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Reply 29 - Posted by: privateer, 10/8/2012 10:44:47 AM     (No. 8917801)

I hadn't noticed that 18. It seemed to me that often when Romney was speaking, Barry's attention was somewhere else: like looking at his Blackberry, disguised as notes. He was probably nodding in agreement as ValJar or Axelrod told him what he was to say when next it was his turn to speak.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 10/8/2012 10:44:53 AM     (No. 8917802)

It's completely understandable that the leftist media machine would feel betrayed by Obama - especially front line propagandists like Chris Matthews. Here they've been working 'round the clock for years, making up and selling the fiction about his brilliance and wonderful leadership, and then he shows up at the one crucial event where he alone has to run with the ball and he drops it like he was sedated.

He'll give a better performance next time but only in style... and with the help of an audience allowed to participate as his hallelujah choir.



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Reply 31 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 10/8/2012 11:14:57 AM     (No. 8917894)

Just thought of something--just went to Yahoo home page, debate/campaign is still in the news--but no mention of the Great [Phony] Leap Forward in employment...

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Reply 32 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 10/8/2012 11:19:53 AM     (No. 8917907)

I was amused by a comment made by some idiot on TV that biden was a real debater and would be all over Ryan. I am sorry, but Ryan will have him for dinner. Biden is a freak show and picked because he would not upstage the magic one.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/8/2012 12:15:43 PM     (No. 8918081)

#28, maybe you should forward those tweets to the Secret Service.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/8/2012 12:19:51 PM     (No. 8918097)

Again, remember WAG THE DOG, Dustin Hoffman the crazed movie producer priving to his secret agent Robert De Niro, that he could CONTROL the Diane Sawyer LIVE on the air.
She was wearing an earphone and repeated exactly what he PHONED IN. Ray Bradbury, Jerry Sohl, George Clayton Johnson readers KNOW an ear piece can be implanted in one's ear. Is that better than a teleprompter?
It's his only way out, listening to his commie comrade Valerie Jaret's every word.
Also, Biden, being the top intelligence man for the Jesuit army, will do brilliantly. He is a life long Catholic with incredible memorization training. His bluster is cover.
Brilliant cover.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: jorgecito, 10/8/2012 1:45:02 PM     (No. 8918298)

And, #24, what a shame it is that the affirmative-action candidate, Barack Obama, undeservedly received the honor of becoming our first black president.

(For that is what Zero is ... affirmative action all the way.)

Think what true pride black Americans --and ALL Americans-- could have taken in a bona fide, qualified first black president.

We all know there are better-qualified, conservative African-Americans out there who could wipe the floor with Obama in a debate. Allen West, for one.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: rambo77, 10/8/2012 2:00:00 PM     (No. 8918340)

God help us if what #28 posted happens. I can just imagine the explosive response that will spread over the land. There will be change beyond their wildest dreams. Talk about arousing a sleeping giant. They won't know what hit them.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: radrelic, 10/8/2012 2:44:43 PM     (No. 8918451)

Whinerman vs Winnerman,

obama would be toast already but for the 47% and the nearly 100% media. Here's to their diminishment if not full demise

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Reply 38 - Posted by: rc1776, 10/8/2012 4:28:11 PM     (No. 8918705)

Zerozipnada was humiliated to have to been called to stand on a stage with a mere human. It, Zerozipnada, simply felt betrayed by his subjects to have to stoop that low.


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Reply 39 - Posted by: Not Always Right, 10/8/2012 6:45:37 PM     (No. 8918944)

I think one of the reasons the person dressed up to be president failed at the first debate is because he got confused and thought he was playing the part of Kingfish from the old Amos and Andy show and was speaking at a meeting of the Knights of the Mystic Sea. That would be a role he might possibly be capable of pulling off; acting like a president is outside of his range IMHO.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Fledrmaus, 10/8/2012 7:12:49 PM     (No. 8918976)

35 - Sure, there are intelligent, honorable blacks who'd be great political representatives. Blacks don't want them! Obama IS what they want. The shiftless, lazy, uncooperative, venal, careless, scofflaw bum: that's the pefect winning black politician. They want their leaders to embody their ideal: the worthless layabout who suddenly wins the $10 million lottery. Hard work? Self-sacrifice? Integrity? Don't make me laugh. Those are all "whitey" traits, and will get you absolutely nowhere when it comes to selecting a leader among blacks. Why do all black-run communities end up as dumps? Because the people in them are irresistibly drawn to flashy conmen instead of sober, moral workhorses. It could have been predicted that, when given a chance to have a black president (and you only get ONE chance to be the first at anything) blacks would throw up this cheap little nobody.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/8/2012 7:58:41 PM     (No. 8919053)

My...my...what a difference one debate makes. The anatomy of a disastrous debate performance is easy to explain in Obie's case:

Ability to Lead = 0
Ability to exhibit high character = 0
Ability to exhibit good judgement = 0

Bottom line - 0 + 0 + 0 = 0 according to my math. As I said the other day, no rounding required.

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Why does Hillary Clinton hate America? That is the question that should be on everyone’s mind as she embarks on a worldwide tour to plug her forthcoming memoir. Check out this THE POLITICO article [emphasis mine]: Hillary Clinton discussed her work at the State Department, called for young women not to take criticisms personally and rapped the media for treating powerful women with a double standard at the kickoff of “Women in the World” in New York City Thursday night. Clinton’s appearance on a panel with International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde, moderated by New York Times columnist Tom Friedman, ran

Now Muslim parents are complaining
about flyers for Easter egg hunts

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Daily Caller, by Eric Owens    Original Article
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In Dearborn, Mich., home to over 40,000 Americans of Arab descent, some Muslim parents have complained about flyers handed out at public schools advertising an Easter egg hunt at a local Presbyterian church. The Muslim parents assert that the flyers – emblazoned with the word “Eggstravaganza!” – violate the separation of church and state widely ascribed to the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause, reports the Detroit Free Press. Students at three Dearborn elementary schools received the flyers. A large number of Muslim students attend the schools. The “Eggstravaganza!” is scheduled to take place on April 12 event at Cherry Hill Presbyterian Church

Jeb Bush to make decision
on 2016 by the end of this year

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Washington Post, by Ed O´Keefe    Original Article
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Former Florida governor Jeb Bush said Sunday that he will base his decision on whether to run for president in 2016 on whether he thinks he can mount a campaign that would transcend the modern-day mechanics of such a run. Bush, the second-oldest son of former president George H. W. Bush and younger brother of George W. Bush, spoke at an event marking the 25th anniversary of his father´s presidency at the library and museum that bears the patriarch´s name. The event was closed to reporters, but moderated by Fox News anchor Shannon Bream and portions of the event were later

Back to Africa? For some African-
Americans, the answer is yes

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Christian Science Monitor, by Chris Stein    Original Article
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Accra, Ghana — Jimmy Thorne says that relocating to Ghana is one of the best moves he’s ever made. It doesn’t matter if he, an African-American, gets called “obroni,” the local word for white person, in the streets, or if some of his family can’t quite figure out what he’s doing in this West African nation so far from his roots in North Carolina. (Snip) Whether motivated by love, money, or the desire to rekindle a long-lost connection, black repatriation to Africa remains alive and well, even if it never quite became the high-volume, emotional return to African roots

Anti-vaccine movement is
giving diseases a 2nd life

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USA Today, by Yamiche Alcindor    Original Article
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Kathryn Riffenburg decided on a closed casket for her baby´s funeral. She didn´t want her family to see what whooping cough, her son´s first illness, had done to 9-week-old Brady Alcaide. The nearly forgotten disease, which has in recent years afflicted thousands of Americans, left Brady´s tiny body swollen and unrecognizable. So his mother dressed him in a white baptismal suit and hat and tucked him into a tiny white casket. Brady´s burial came just four weeks after his first laugh — inspired by her version of I´m a Little Teapot — and two weeks after his family learned that he had

Romney’s return to public life stokes
speculation about potential 2016 run

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FOX News, by Staff    Original Article
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Former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney has sworn off running again for elected office, but Americans have certainly heard that one before. Speculation that Romney might run again has largely been stoked by the reunion he planned to host last month in Park City, Utah, for members of his 2012 campaign and debate team and a string of recent public appearances. He has appeared on TV news shows 12 times in the past six months. That’s essentially on pace with Michigan GOP Rep. Mike Rogers, who led all national politicians last year with 26 appearances over 12 months. Romney has

The artist formerly known as Cat
Stevens enters rock’s hall of fame

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Boston Globe (MA), by James Sullivan    Original Article
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“Morning has broken, like the first morning.” Whatever your faith, if you’ve got any at all, that’s pretty much what it boils down to. The sun comes up, and we give it another shot.(snip) Stevens converted to Islam in the late 1970s, and he angered a lot of fans when he appeared to support the fatwa against novelist Salman Rushdie with comments he made in 1989. But for a kid in thrall to the kinetic power of the spinning records in his father’s hi-fi console, Stevens seemed to be living proof that popular music (he had 11 Top 40 hits in

7M enrolled doesn´t guarantee
health law´s success

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Associated Press, by Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar    Original Article
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WASHINGTON- Seven million people signed up, so there is an appetite for President Barack Obama´s health care law, but that doesn´t guarantee success for the country´s newest social program. Big challenges are lurking for the next enrollment season, which starts Nov. 15. Chief among them are keeping premiums and other consumer costs in check, and overhauling an enrollment process that was advertised as customer-friendly but turned out to be an ordeal. "They have demonstrated the law can work, but we are a ways off from being able to judge its success," said Larry Levitt, an expert on health insurance markets

The president takes the low road
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Washington Post, by Ed Rogers    Original Article
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The president gave two speeches this week, one in the Rose Garden to talk about Obamacare and one in Ann Arbor, Mich., to push minimum wage increases. What did we learn? We learned that President Obama is most comfortable in campaign mode, and his campaigning has gotten downright ugly. His Rose Garden speech was a typical self-congratulatory moment for supposedly hitting 7.1 million Obamacare sign-ups — although we know that once again, the White House is ignoring some inconvenient truths. We also learned that the president was vain enough to asked the networks to cover his speech in prime time, but

Female transgender student
suspended for using women’s bathroom

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New York Daily News, by Nicole Hensley    Original Article
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A female transgender student wants an apology from a North Carolina college for being detained by a security officer and sent home for using the women’s bathroom. The 22-year-old freshman, Andraya Williams, believes she was discriminated against during a March 19 incident at Central Piedmont Community College in Charlotte, N.C. because of her looks. The freshman said she was leaving the restroom and going to her social studies class when a female officer stopped her and requested her student ID, according to a statement released by the Transgender Law Center. The officer then laughed while asking the student if

Matt Bevin defends going
to cockfighting rally

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Courier-Journal [Louisville, KY], by Joseph Gerth & James R. Carroll    Original Article
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U.S. Senate candidate Matt Bevin spent the week defending his decision last weekend to attend an event in Corbin, Ky., that most attendees knew was a rally to legalize cockfighting in Kentucky. Bevin has said he didn´t know it was a rally supporting cockfighting and thought it was a "state´s rights" rally. After ducking other calls for comment, Bevin went on WHAS radio´s "Terry Meiners Show" on Thursday to talk about the rally, cockfighting and other things. "I´ve never been to a cockfight, I don´t condone cockfighting, but here´s the thing: I´m not going to disparage people for exercising their First Amendment rights,"


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