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Revenge of the middle class
The Hill [Washington, DC], by Jim Feehery

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Posted By:MissMolly, 11/4/2009 4:34:13 AM

The elections today should send a simple message to the Obama administration and congressional Democrats: You lost the middle class, and you won’t get them back until you fundamentally change your legislative agenda. During last year’s campaign, President Barack Obama consistently stressed how his policies were going to help the middle class. He talked about his middle-class tax cut. He promised that any new spending would be paid by the rich.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: viking diver, 11/4/2009 4:38:13 AM     (No. 5998111)

yep lets just tax the rich so that the poor won't have to work, what is wrong with this picture. And the middle class trying to move up is usually the one's paying the most because their income is earned from working not sitting in an annuity somewhere drawing interest, or from investments which are taxed differently anyway.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/4/2009 5:10:54 AM     (No. 5998124)

Obma has a war on the middle class excluding union members.. Not much stimulus help for the middle class at all while he's throwing billions at rich dmes and billions more to low income housing.Bunch of new million dollar college presidents.How much of that was from research grants? Obama sees the middle class as a pariah not the backbone of the country. He can't keep extending unemployment until supposed green jobs pop up.Mass green jobs are at least 5 years away and that's if they don't throw the towel in on it before then. It just doesn't produce the firepower as gas or oil or nuclear or coal.

Saw an example the other day where solar panels installed on an old building represents a 30 year pay back on saved electricity.No private investor in their right minds would touch this. Without massive subsidies it wouldn't last 5 minutes.


Reply 3 - Posted by: MsCharlotteVale, 11/4/2009 6:14:43 AM     (No. 5998168)

Have our electeds ever defined "middle class" or "rich"? They've defined "poor" and that covers lots of territory. Let's define the labels so we all know what we are. When I was young, being middle class was more of an ideology than it was about your income. I believe I'm financially poor but I'm not sure...


 
 


Reply 4 - Posted by: JimS, 11/4/2009 7:12:55 AM     (No. 5998244)

Yes, #2.
Roof-top solar panels typically have 25-30 year paybacks, depending on geographic location, output capacity, and utility rates.
Unfortunately, the solar panels themselves have only 10-15 years useful life.


Reply 5 - Posted by: LambiePie, 11/4/2009 7:28:13 AM     (No. 5998293)

I didn't know that America had a cast system.
Gee.
Class has nothing to do with money.
It is a state of mind.
Who do you know that was not very wealthy, but had a great deal of class?
Mother Theresa?
Soldiers who give their lives?
How about: Orka Winfrey? Wookie Soetoro?
George Clooney? Teddy Kennedy?
Albert Gorebot? Jon (I was in Viet Nam)Kerry?
Susan SaranWrap? Sting?
Money cannot buy it.
Don't let others define who you are.


Reply 6 - Posted by: RussVet, 11/4/2009 7:36:27 AM     (No. 5998321)

After 9 months of Obuma and congressional liberal Demrats pushing socialism hell, fun to finally watch real working middle class America taking it back. Obuma went to great lengths to publicly pet and burp his chosen ones, and the middle class voters throw them under Obuma's bus .. Lots more room under there


Reply 7 - Posted by: steph_gray, 11/4/2009 8:10:10 AM     (No. 5998439)

#2 has an excellent point about the green jobs fantasy, but the middle class - which translates into "productive people" in my mind - doesn't need any sort of stimulus so-called help.

If tomorrow morning this abysmal Congress and administration turned around and handed back the unspent stimulus as across the board tax refunds, dissolved capital gains, removed all interstate barriers to health insurance, enacted tort reform, and dropped flat the CommuCare and CommuEnergy bills in toto, they could turn the economy around by next week. Piece of cake.

The fact that they never would says all we need to know about them.


Reply 8 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 11/4/2009 8:10:48 AM     (No. 5998441)

Dittos, #3. On the income scale, I'm below what DC thinks is the poverty line. But I'm rich in the things that count--and those cannot be taxed.


 

 
 


 
Reply 9 - Posted by: Felixcat, 11/4/2009 8:14:32 AM     (No. 5998450)

This Virginian (by choice) and many others like me went to the polls yesterday to say to Richmond and the White House, the people who pay for all your programs are not going to take it anymore. Virginia has closed visitor rest stops (budget shortfall) on major interstates into northern VA and Metro DC - rather embarrassing and annoying when my taxes have not decreased. I have to pay a "car tax" every October on the assessed/blue book value of my car. It was almost $300 on a 4 year old 2005 Acura TL - not exactly a luxury car and if it wasn't for Gov Gilmore (R) a few years back getting a car tax offset bill passed, my bill would have been tripled. Most of us are not multi millionaires like Pelosi et al who can afford the various taxes that bleed the rest of us.


Reply 10 - Posted by: vanman, 11/4/2009 8:25:29 AM     (No. 5998477)

What is the sense in a health care bill costing over a trillion dllars, has 1300pages, and punishes everyone? Use common semse!


Reply 11 - Posted by: Trigger2, 11/4/2009 8:30:01 AM     (No. 5998493)

Yeah, NY has seen how well taxing the rich has worked out. The rich are fleeing and any in-bound are low income.


Reply 12 - Posted by: h24015, 11/4/2009 8:30:57 AM     (No. 5998498)

#8, just wait


Reply 13 - Posted by: cap MarineTet68, 11/4/2009 9:01:10 AM     (No. 5998586)

#11, this is happening here on the Left Coast as well. Not only do we have an unmitigated flood from Mexico, but San Francisco and other cities have declared themselves ''sanctuaries'' for illegals and homeless.
Guess who gets to pay for all that??
Yup!
The decreasing number of wage-earners and job-providers.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Idaho Spud, 11/4/2009 9:05:04 AM     (No. 5998595)

#8. The reason you were not taxed is you did not report these items on your tax form. You not only owe back taxes on these "things" but may also be guilty of tax evasion, fraud, and owe fines/penaltys to boot.

Perhaps the middle class should form their own Union. The Productive Middle Class Citizens of the World or PMCCW. With the favored status of unions, this group could have lobbyists, PAC's, and their own special ops force of thugs. He who bullies best bullies last!


Reply 15 - Posted by: upchuck, 11/4/2009 9:10:09 AM     (No. 5998605)

Obama doesn't care. He has to destroy it before he can rebuild it like Soros wants. Every working taxpayer is his target. My youngest daughter who works for minimum wage is a target. She has to pay higher untility bills, pay more for gas to commute and cost of food is rising. Obama doesn't care while he stuffs his mouth with a kobie beef steak and parties in the WH while troops die.


 



 
Reply 16 - Posted by: DSchneider, 11/4/2009 9:39:50 AM     (No. 5998690)

In the last 30 years, the reason Republicans lost was not primarily policy, but that they were viewed as being out of touch with the general voting population. Last year proved to be the same, with the double-punch of current voter distaste with the Bush Administration and newly registered voters 71% of which voted for Obama.

The MSM keeps pushing that conservatism is dead, which couldn't be further from the truth. The real lesson from last year? The general voting population in the last three decades have told the Republicans "We like you better than your opponents, just remember where you got your votes".

The Obama administration has made the critical mistake of believing the MSM. I wouldn't doubt that, down the road, there will be real bitterness in the current administration towards the MSM for feeding them a fallacious line. It would be in character for this administration to blame the MSM for its losses because it ALWAYS blames someone else.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Mizlori, 11/4/2009 10:22:51 AM     (No. 5998858)

Thanks people of New Jersey and Virginia. You are real AMERICANS. I just hope and pray that this will show other States and people to wake up to what the "o" and his gang are trying to do to our country. We are Americans and we fight back. We love our FREEDOM and no socialist or communists will ever take that away from us. We will take our BIBLES AND GUNS AND FIGHT BACK. We will fight with our votes and anything else we need. So don't get too comfortable ZERO in "OUR WHITE HOUSE" along with your ugly wife you will be gone and no one will be swooning at your feet anymore.


Reply 18 - Posted by: Getagrip19, 11/4/2009 10:32:04 AM     (No. 5998898)

The biggest disappointment in seeing Obama get elected is that it showed how few people actually considered the Constitution and our Freedoms when voting. Obama is a very obvious Socialist, and was so before, during, and after election, and as such, is going to try to force U.S. into a Socialist form of government.

That so many voters didn't see his socialist tendencies underscores how badly educated we Americans are. They take for granted the tremendous value of our Constitution based Representative Republic. Indeed, this vast ignorance may yet spell doom for our freedoms.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Polaris, 11/4/2009 10:44:34 AM     (No. 5998958)

This article was poorly written. I had a hard time hearing the message because I couldn't get past the awkward sentence structure and bad writing style. How did the author graduate from high school?


Reply 20 - Posted by: fiscon, 11/4/2009 10:45:27 AM     (No. 5998966)

I would add to #16 that the GOP has not given conservatives much to vote for for a long time. When the GOP has control of Congress and the Presidency and doesn't take advantage of that to cut government, lower taxes, and restore freedoms, you know that there is very little difference between it and the Democrats.

Why should I get excited about another fiscal liberal calling himself conservative cause he spent months railing against gay marriage and introducing stuff like Medicare Part D? What matters more--the systematic destruction of this country caused by fiscal liberalism, or what people do in the privacy of their own homes?

"I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer, just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals...The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom, and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is." -President Ronald Reagan

How quickly the GOP forgot.


Reply 21 - Posted by: just another nerd, 11/4/2009 11:04:53 AM     (No. 5999043)

Rich: $40,000.00 and up
Poor: #39,999.99 and down


Reply 22 - Posted by: RiverRat, 11/4/2009 11:06:54 AM     (No. 5999051)

The 'middle class' is the 'reasoning and logical' arm of the American society. Pelosi, Frank, Reid, Schumer,and Zippy/friends, all need to realize "LISTEN UP--WE'RE HERE, WE'RE STAYING, WE'RE SMART..............DON'T CALL US NAMES AND DON'T PUT US DOWN AS DUMMIES! UNITED, WE CAN DEFEAT ALL OF YOU!"


Reply 23 - Posted by: colonel53, 11/4/2009 11:17:57 AM     (No. 5999087)

The Middle Class has been taken for granted by both major parties and treated as idiots for years. Yesterday's election was the prelude / wake-up call to next year's anti-incumbent tsunami if they don't listen now.

The issues , as I see them, are listed below in priority order:

1- Job Creation : cannot get our financial house in order, especially given Obama's spoending, if the people do not have jobs (17% unemployment in September).

2- Get our financial house in order : Reduce the Deficit

3- Government competence: Read the bills and vet the Czars.

4 - America will not give any more apologies to dictators: The middle class sacrificed much in distant corners of the globe, in the name of America. They do not want to be told that blood and treasure was expended wrongly.


Reply 24 - Posted by: vinny63, 11/4/2009 11:51:43 AM     (No. 5999186)

NJ, Yes; Va, Yes; NY 23 Sorry; No way gay in Maine Yes,

I pray this is a new start toward that which was America, and away from the socialist state it now is.


Reply 25 - Posted by: crankyyankee, 11/4/2009 11:57:51 AM     (No. 5999208)

"You hear us, Barack?"


Reply 26 - Posted by: LoveUSA, 11/4/2009 12:04:45 PM     (No. 5999237)

What happened to the tax cut for 95% of the country, Obama? Another campaign lie.


Reply 27 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/4/2009 12:05:59 PM     (No. 5999241)

Whats going on is that middle class independent voters have figured out that there are not enough rich people in the USA to pay for Obama's largely socialist agenda, and so that it will be the middle class who will end up paying for most of it, and those independent voters don't like that one bit.


Reply 28 - Posted by: SelfSufficient, 11/4/2009 12:13:27 PM     (No. 5999263)

Being from Virginia and firmly in the middle class it appears that the message may have fallen on deaf ears. Let me repeat what I believe most Virginians are saying; We don't like party politics. We will vote which every way we damn well feel. We are independent and relish in that independence. Don't take that away from us with your laws, bills or programs. We are philanthropic so we don't need to be told to share what we have. So don't tax us because we believe charity begins at home and stays at home. We don't need, nor want the government bailing us out. We especially don't want the government bailing out the banks. We don't want to hear to big to fail. After goliath fell and perhaps Goldman Sachs needs to fail too. Whats left to understand? We will survive, A country boy will survive!


Reply 29 - Posted by: Maybeth, 11/4/2009 12:24:26 PM     (No. 5999294)

New Jersey and Virginia were *personal* losses for Obama, the Won. Toss them into the same bucket where the lost Olympics bid lays. Hope it's a large bucket. It has only just begun.


Reply 30 - Posted by: kens, 11/4/2009 12:44:53 PM     (No. 5999364)

It's starting to crack. Soon it will crumble. No wonder Obama doesn't want to be reminded of how quickly things can come tumbling down by begging off going to Berlin for the anniversary of FREEDOM.


Reply 31 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 11/4/2009 1:09:05 PM     (No. 5999435)

I would amend Rush Limbaugh's maxim to the following: fiscal conservatism wins every time it's tried.

It was the big-spending mindset of guys like McCain and both Presidents Bush that led the GOP off-course.

It's reassuring to see evidence that a fairly high percentage of Americans have a healthy distrust of government.



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