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Federal jury rules government can
seize Mongols motorcycle club’s trademark

Orange County Register, by Staff

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Posted By:poster, 1/11/2019 8:27:03 PM

In a closely watched trial with possibly far-reaching legal implications, a federal jury decided Friday that the notorious Mongols motorcycle club must forfeit the logos worn by its members, finding in favor of prosecutors’ novel claim that there is a direct link between the club’s crimes and its well-known, trademarked insignia. The jury’s verdict Friday marked the end of the second phase of a trial focusing on forfeiture of assets. In the first phase last month, the jury found the club, which was established in Montebello in the 1970s, guilty of racketeering and conspiracy to commit racketeering.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bobgray2, 1/11/2019 8:48:12 PM     (No. 11890184)

Let me see if I understand. A federal jury has determined that the US government can seize a private organizations artwork design. In other words their intellectual property. The same thing they accuse the Chinese government of doing. I don´t believe they have thought through the implications of their decision.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 1/11/2019 9:11:36 PM     (No. 11890198)

I reckon with this precedent, they can seize any peasant´s copyrights, trademarks, patents etc. if they think we might have committed a crime, or may commit one in the future.

This may be even worse than their draconian Asset Forfeiture laws, where they can even steal the money out of your wallet if you are carrying more than they think you should have, even if you aren´t actually charged with a crime.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MrDeplorable, 1/11/2019 9:21:09 PM     (No. 11890201)

First they came for the Mongols but I don´t ride a motorcycle so I said nothing. Who´s next?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: strike3, 1/11/2019 9:38:10 PM     (No. 11890208)

There will be blood all over the place. You don´t touch a guy´s bike.

Personally I think they should spend their time on the big money racketeers at the top of the list like Clinton, Obama, Holder, Sanders, Rice, Lynch, Jarrett, Jackson, Sharpton, Waters, Menendez, etc, etc.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/11/2019 9:38:11 PM     (No. 11890209)

I saw 5 Mongols on their bikes a few days ago. Rough looking dudes, but they weren´t bothering anybody.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 1/11/2019 9:38:40 PM     (No. 11890211)

Kinda guessing the Mongols don´t care.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sore Eye Assets, 1/11/2019 9:44:33 PM     (No. 11890214)

Obviously, the Judge, Prosecutor and Jury never caught a single episode of "Sons of Anarchy" or they never would have got involved with this.

Take a 1% biker´s colors? Are they crazy? They may all have signed their own death warrants.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: chumley, 1/11/2019 10:09:50 PM     (No. 11890223)

Next the government will confiscate the black hand for their own purposes.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Ribald1, 1/11/2019 10:38:41 PM     (No. 11890231)

I understand their desire to reduce competition, but do they really think that confiscating the competition´s logo will serve protecting their monopoly in any way?

What are they going to do, collect a royalty on every Mongol rag produced? Or have the IRS wear that logo when confiscating funds to be given to Planned Parenthood to use to kill children?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: RenoVet68, 1/11/2019 11:40:17 PM     (No. 11890252)

To quote, "I see dead people".

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/12/2019 12:12:33 AM     (No. 11890274)

Can´t read the article because I have ad blocker but I do believe they "p´d on the wrong spark plug"

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 1/12/2019 1:03:17 AM     (No. 11890302)

The Judicial system has been accumulating far too much power over our lives, in greater and greater detail, more and more intrusively.

Some of it is due to individuals´ eagerness to sue, which brings the courts into our lives as arbiters in almost everything.

Right now, the Executive branch, President Trump, is in an epic battle with the Judiciary which is seeking the termination of POTUS.

By not performing its Constitutional duties, the Legislative branch keeps surrendering power to the courts.

Marbury v. Madison ought to be struck down. This has made the SJC way, way, WAY too powerful. To heck with "settled Law." As long as human beings are fallible, the idea of "settled Law" or "settled science" is ridiculous... and dangerous.

This Mongols case brings to mind the Kelo v. City of New London (i think it was). Horrible decision.

what am i doing up at 1AM?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: rellimpank2, 1/12/2019 7:56:57 AM     (No. 11890455)

---gee whiz---breathlessly awaiting the feds confiscating he KKK´s initials---that ought fix them, too!!!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: tank, 1/12/2019 9:09:39 AM     (No. 11890545)

Interesting and potentially scary 1st Amendment implications. Our first thoughts are, can this be extended to the Nazi Party, KKK, etc?

But it can go further, and eventually the free speech rights of others (corporations, non-profit entities and the like) can get caught up in the wake.

Alex Karras unavailable for comment.

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