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Bannon’s Ill-Conceived War on the Establishment
National Review Online, by Jonathan S. Tobin

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 12/7/2017 3:25:10 PM

We already know Steve Bannon believes that politics is war. But during the course of his speech at an Alabama rally for Roy Moore this week, he gave the country an ugly lesson in what scorched-earth political warfare really entails. (Snip)Still, despite all the fun he’s having attacking his favorite targets and boosting Moore, Bannon has to be aware that he isn’t winning his war on McConnell. Try as he might to deny it, he knows McConnell is now more important to Trump than the Breitbart attack machine is. It was McConnell’s successful maneuvering and negotiating that gave Trump his

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Bannon is a snake.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spyder, 12/7/2017 3:33:32 PM     (No. 11473685)

I have to agree with OP ... Bannon is a snake, as represented on the Gadsden.
Establishment beware we the people are “WOKED”.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/7/2017 3:39:31 PM     (No. 11473692)

I don´t know. He helped get Trump elected against all odds.

The war that was most "ill-conceived", IMO, was the war NRO declared on Trump. When they put out that ridiculous Never Trump issue, I was still very much against him. Even then I said it was moronic to do that, and I´ve been proven correct.

Since then, Trump has proven to be our most conservative-in-action president in decades. And a lot of that is with support from Bannon. NRO still has not accepted Trump and they still lob journalistic grenades at Bannon. They´ve missed the point entirely.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: ilovedogs, 12/7/2017 3:45:32 PM     (No. 11473695)

Given a choice between Bannon and McConnell it´s a no brainer

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rolfnader, 12/7/2017 3:47:03 PM     (No. 11473698)

Takes one to know one as we used to say. Politics, in our current situation IS war-and snakes don´t do war. They slither around trying to scare people, though.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: miceal, 12/7/2017 3:47:29 PM     (No. 11473699)

I think we need to become a "National Review On-Line" FREE ZONE... Just more BeeEss from the "Never Trumpers."

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Reply 6 - Posted by: hpmatt, 12/7/2017 3:57:07 PM     (No. 11473710)

I ams so happy Boehner & McConnell fought Obama´s spending plans ´tooth & nail´. That DOUBLED our national debt in 7 years - added $10 TRILLION in unpaid spending - those Establishment guys are our savior!! Think of how bad things w/b without their courageous efforts.... I was so inspirational - it reminded me of when 43 was elected and Mehlman was the RNC leader - sending me request for contributions, when 43 was approving spending going through the roof....made me so proud back then....

Can´t wait till Trump pivots and starts the fight to rein-in the Swamp´s spending of our children´s future - today.....

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Reply 7 - Posted by: FunOne, 12/7/2017 4:00:09 PM     (No. 11473712)

NRO´s ill conceived war on draining the swamp is a concern to me.

Agree with poster 5 that we need to adopt a "never NRO" position.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ctpro, 12/7/2017 4:00:57 PM     (No. 11473714)

With Bannon it´s all about Bannon. Bannon foisting a pedophile on the GOP is going to hurt DT´s agenda. DEMs will wrap the pedophile around the GOPs neck, the way the GOP wrapped Clinton around the DEMs neck for years. Whether Moore wins or loses the GOP loses. Lastly, Moore will be the loneliest Pol in DC... no one will want to be pictured with him... I can see it now people sprinting away from the picture frame if his picture is being taken.... a Moore-induced sprint.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: barryno, 12/7/2017 4:01:47 PM     (No. 11473716)

I´m at war with the establishment. I can think of only a dozen of our current representatives and senators that I wouldn´t wish on a one way trip to the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 12/7/2017 4:02:03 PM     (No. 11473718)

If Bannon is ineffective, then why is Tobin and National Review so unctuous to separate Bannon from Trump?

Because they love Trump now?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

McConnell would have done nothing to pass the tax bill if Bannon hadn´t posed a greater threat than cooperation with the Dreaded Deplorable Donald.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: droopydog, 12/7/2017 4:06:37 PM     (No. 11473724)

Bannon is the answer to my prayers.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: John c, 12/7/2017 4:07:00 PM     (No. 11473725)

I like Bannon and the whole Breitbart team expansion into nighttime radio.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rama41, 12/7/2017 4:07:42 PM     (No. 11473726)

Those who liked the witch from Delaware, who gave a sure-thing R seat to the Ds, and Sharron Angle, who likewise kept an R from unseating Harry Reid in Nevada, will surely like the stable that Bannon conjures up to help give the House back to the Democrats.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/7/2017 4:09:58 PM     (No. 11473729)

I completely disagree; Bannon is a conscience buster. He is a force that is impossible to ignore and we have needed such a force for a long, long time. Tobin says "McConnell´s hard work" is what pushed through the Senate tax reform "win". Well, it is not won yet and we have to ask, would "Mr. Turtle" have done that effort if it had not been for Bannon´s constant badgering and accusations of many in the GOPe end of the pool? Motivation is a very needed element in getting things down and as far as I can tell, such as in the effort to repeal Obamacare, Mr. turtle was about as unmotivated a leader as I have ever seen! Can we explain McConnell´s vicious attacks on Roy Moore or his un-explainable forced stupidity in all but tossing that election to the GD Democrat? To say McConnell all on his own suddenly has become a Trump Champion is to exceed the limits of believably. McConnell did what he did because of the public awareness about his utter duplicity and I think Bannon has a lot to do with that.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: southcarolina, 12/7/2017 4:18:06 PM     (No. 11473740)

Been thinking that a thumbs down option would be great to have for some of these comments.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: citizen, 12/7/2017 4:19:26 PM     (No. 11473741)

McConnell is a different type of snake, but a snake all the same.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: rubberneck, 12/7/2017 4:37:03 PM     (No. 11473753)

I like the Honey Badger... and I´ve been pleasantly surprised by the Commander-in-Chief. (I voted for him, although in honesty it was mostly a vote against the PIAPS.)

That said... I think both Bannon and Trump sometimes "shoot from the hip" - with a scatter-gun - and incur collateral damage.

I´m a "devout" Mormon. Perhaps not as devout as Romney... but a believer and practitioner. I served a 2-year full-time mission, and NOT to avoid the draft (my lottery # was 320). I wasn´t offended by Bannon´s Mormon remarks... but I´m not easily offended. And I can certainly understand how fellow Mormons could take umbrage. And Mormons are a consistently-conservative voting bloc, as a rule.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: harleynyc, 12/7/2017 4:42:12 PM     (No. 11473757)

I´m with Bannon 100% and this article is pure BS. You better believe it is a war. If Hillary was elected the borders would be wide open in the quest for more democrat votes and the end of this nation would follow.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Chief1942, 12/7/2017 4:44:33 PM     (No. 11473759)

Tobin appears to be in denial. This is "war", and there will be no quarter given to the progressive/socialist not the GOPe. Even IF the "establishment is able to take down Trump and Bannon, someone else will simply fill the void and the "war" will continue to its ultimate conclusion. Come on Tobin, in case you haven´t noticed, everything you thought you knew changed dramatically with last November´s election. Get over it or get the heck out of the way. No fence riding this time, you are either with us or against us. You make the choice.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 12/7/2017 5:05:34 PM     (No. 11473780)

#13 - a "sure thing" Republican senator from Delaware would have been another Susan Collins. That would have gotten us exactly nowhere. Frankly, I´d rather have a democrat than yet another RINO that could hold everything hostage.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Clinger, 12/7/2017 5:22:01 PM     (No. 11473793)

There´s a lot I don´t know but I do know that the GOP establishment has been quietly at war with me nibbling away at my flanks while I have been repelling the frontal assaults the of the democrat party.

Bannon is part of how I came to see that my flanks were being rolled up. Its hard to see that as ill-conceived.

Would McConnell have been as successful or successful at all if it weren´t for a bit of an attitude adjustment by we the people in part delivered by Bannon?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Ribicon, 12/7/2017 5:25:01 PM     (No. 11473797)

The Moore campaign has debunked all of the false claims of sex attacks against young girls, as well as the claim by the former cop that the police were tasked with following Moore around, as well as the claim that he´d been banned from a shopping mall. You´d think a reputable publication such as NRO would have the resources to know these things, yet NRO had proudly shed any semblance of integrity.

Lies from the article re: Judge Moore. Would the Democrats have written anything differently? "the former judge who stands credibly accused of preying on multiple young girls ... an accused sexual predator like Moore ... an embrace of someone widely viewed by most Americans as a scoundrel ... despite his unsavory past and extremist views..."

I would like to see Moore file libel suits against any and all, after his win.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ribicon, 12/7/2017 5:29:21 PM     (No. 11473803)

This is cute too; FTA: "It’s also true that, with the retirements of Jeff Flake and Bob Corker, Bannon will probably fail to make good on his promise to use primary challenges to purge the House and Senate of everyone on his enemies list."

The Flake and Corker Democrat trash walked themselves to the curb because they would not survive the primaries. Snakes like these know how to preserve their earning potential, if nothing else, yet Tobin counts their removal from office as a failure by Bannon? Funnier still, NRO expects people to pay for such weak punditry?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Nashman, 12/7/2017 5:30:24 PM     (No. 11473805)

They sure are protesting at Bannon a lot. Why? Because he´s effective and right. The Romneybots are all out agreeing once again with NRO pantywaists. Those poor snowflakes who are upset the people might have a say in what happens to this country again. I say... Go Bannon!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Judy, 12/7/2017 5:36:55 PM     (No. 11473814)

I’ll take Bannon any day over McCain, Flake, Corker, Collins , McConnell...Tobin get out of DC & NY more often.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: hotcorner, 12/7/2017 6:01:08 PM     (No. 11473841)

If the Never Trumpers were Trumpers, there would be no war on the establishment, no Mueller investigation, Obamacare would be repealed, a better tax plan, budget cuts and a blowout in 2018 election. But the establishment just didn´t like Mr. Trump and sacrificed their voters and American citizens for what, I just don´t know. What idiots! Go Bannon Go. They gave Trumpers no choice.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: wendybird, 12/7/2017 6:10:26 PM     (No. 11473849)

Its a shame that the day I used to enjoy, when National Review arrived, no longer occurs. How is their re up rate going? As well as The Weekly Standard?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/7/2017 6:45:05 PM     (No. 11473899)

I do not see anything ill conceived about the war on the GOPe, who have accomplished exactly nothing since the 1990´s. And everything accomplished today is due to Trump, as the GOPe would have continued to do nothing.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/7/2017 6:59:25 PM     (No. 11473921)

I’m with him on declaring war on the Repstsblishment. Look what we have as a result of their anti Conservative Progressive agenda and the current failure across the board to provide real leadership. How much worse will it have to get before enough is enough. I’m sure McConnell and Ryan would support Trumps impeachment if the Democrats ever got the opportunity to do it, just to prove they can govern in a bipartisan manner. The days of a balanced budget are gone for good and they will make sure they spend this country into financial oblivion. Until then go ahead and bash Bannon if it makes you feel any better.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: doublesharp, 12/7/2017 7:10:59 PM     (No. 11473933)

Bannon is effective in ways we will never know. He has got the gift of prescience and the means of implementing his vision. Breitbart needs to back up to no other site when it comes to influence. Keep shining that bright light in all the corners.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: dvc, 12/7/2017 11:11:56 PM     (No. 11474148)

Bannon is a hero and attacking the Establishment is exactly the right thing to do.

All the RINO horrorshows that we have had for the last couple of decades are because the Uniparty doesn´t care what the voters want, they want to seesaw back and forth with no real changes as we march steadily to an irreversible globalist power structure with the USA crippled.

NRO has become part of the enemy, clearly.

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