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The Movement Strikes Back
National Review Online, by Robert Costa

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Posted By:SpeedMaster, 9/17/2013 6:03:10 AM

As the deadline to fund the federal government nears, Republican leaders are struggling mightily to come up with legislation that can pass the House. Over the weekend, leadership staffers fired off anxious e-mails and uneasy veteran House members exchanged calls. Both camps fear that a shutdown is increasingly likely — and they blame the conservative movement’s cottage industry of pressure groups. But these organizations, ensconced in Northern Virginia office parks and elsewhere, aren’t worried about the establishment’s ire. In fact, they welcome it. Business has boomed since the push to defund Obamacare caught on. Conservative activists are lighting up social media,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: steph_gray, 9/17/2013 6:15:18 AM     (No. 9524031)

I don´t think Costa approves, but the article is relatively fair.

And when we have grassroots, they are real down to the last particle of dirt, unlike the Communist AstroTurf.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rinktum, 9/17/2013 6:36:12 AM     (No. 9524059)

Think of what could be accomplished if the Republicans spoke as one voice as the democrats do. We are a party divided over the very essence of what role government plays in our lives. In Washington this is being played as an extremist group (conservatives) against measured and nuanced thinkers (Republicans) which is a lie. This is a movement of traditional thinking Americans who know in their gut that they are losing this country, their way of life and are fed up. This is the TEA Party movement. Republicans talk strategy but nothing ever gets done. They are too busy playing the Washington game to worry about the average American. Obamacare will be the ruin of personal freedom if it is fully enacted. Right here, right now is the hill to die on.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: StormCnter, 9/17/2013 6:41:48 AM     (No. 9524063)

Achieving goals without a strategy for doing so is a doomed effort. It does no good to yell "defund" without any idea of how that could realistically succeed. Today, no. But tomorrow, of course it can happen. First we have to control more than one branch. It´s frustrating, but it´s the truth.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 9/17/2013 7:02:20 AM     (No. 9524086)

The only strategy to consider is the PR war, as Republicans control the House they certainly DO have the means to defund this monstrosity. If they will not stand on principle they will always CONTINUE to lose.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 9/17/2013 7:09:14 AM     (No. 9524093)

At this point the debate is theoretical, but even Ted Cruz doesn´t believe a GOP defunding will stand in the Senate and then on Obama´s desk. It all sounds good, but it cannot happen.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 9/17/2013 7:10:37 AM     (No. 9524094)

# 5 Who then is shutting down the government?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 9/17/2013 7:19:08 AM     (No. 9524105)

I hope no one is going to do that, but yes, if it happens, it will be Obama who shuts it down. But you and I and the guy behind that tree are the only ones who will understand. Shutting down the government will kill us in 2014, because the media will see to it that the GOP is blamed. In the end, Obama and the Dems win and the GOP loses all way round. Feeling good about taking it to the mattresses is not sufficient justification for risking the critical gains we must make in the 2014 election.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: tisHimself, 9/17/2013 7:21:31 AM     (No. 9524109)

We don´t control any branches. Obama has the liberal republicans in his back pocket, and they seem pretty OK with that, as this thread demonstrates.

There is no indication that big government liberal Rockefeller Bush Romney republicans want or intend to dismantle national health care.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 9/17/2013 7:25:53 AM     (No. 9524115)

Which is why it is the PR war that is important. I can not imagine how we lose in 2014 after we hang the dems votes re this funding, for something that 70%+ of the electorate does not want, around their necks, the fall back move then becomes delay for a year so "Joe Six Pack" is on an equal footing with "Big Business and congress". This is why a vote to preserve principle in important.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter, 9/17/2013 7:48:54 AM     (No. 9524157)

That certainly sounds good, #9, but how in the world can we "control the PR war", when we can only do conduct PR with paid advertising while Obama´s troops have complete, free access and success with the national main media?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative, 9/17/2013 7:54:25 AM     (No. 9524164)

Whatever happened to principle? The GOP and Boehner screamed repeal, and now refuse to even de-fund. Even the AFL-CIO is screaming repeal now. The iron is hot enough to strike, except for the usual suspects who will bollix it all when the counterattack comes.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 9/17/2013 8:06:13 AM     (No. 9524192)

# 10 You answered your own question, open the wallets. Should even help fund raising. Doing nothing (or messing around the way we are now) ensures implementation of obamacare.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ruhn, 9/17/2013 8:26:05 AM     (No. 9524223)

It would be a lost opportunity that House Republicans could not unify on a position (either defund or delay) and a forge a long term strategy to defeat ACA.

Never has Barry´s glass jaw been so evident than during and after the whole Assad/Putin fiasco. There was no way the House would authorize military action. Prospects in the Senate were also dubious. Even members of Barry´s own party bolted. Most pols instinctively sense blood in the water. Barry has demontrated that he is ineffectual with Congress and weak on the international stage. On top of that, the ACA is increasingly unpopular with the public. Exemptions to Congress for ACA enrollment is only fueling the fire.

Unless the House Republicans can get its act together in the next few weeks, they will fail to capitalize on a singular moment when Barry and the dems are flailing around. This will require leadership; a quality that has been found wanting in both the WH and Congress.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: KsGirl101, 9/17/2013 8:45:38 AM     (No. 9524255)

We all know that this won´t work either. Nothing we´ve tried so far has worked. but, we have to keep trying. People will remember that we kept trying until the bitter end to kill this monstrosity.
Rush said after the election that the only thing that will save this country now are events and my, my, haven´t the events been piling up lately.

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