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Tear down this icon: Why the GOP
has to get over Ronald Reagan

Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 4/27/2013 6:32:46 AM

The unfailing reverence on the American right for Ronald Reagan is understandable. He was the only exemplar of modern conservatism to win the White House, and unlike liberal icons such as Roosevelt or Johnson or Obama, he presided over an economic boom and became beloved by voters not normally drawn to his party. No wonder that Reagan, long before his death in 2004, attained mythical status in the conservative movement and the Republican Party. But that myth has become a burden for the modern GOP. It has bound Reagan’s followers on the right to policies and positions that were

She sounds like she actually posts here on Lucianne.com using numerous pseudonymns. Why am I not surprised by this? Rubin was totally and embarrassingly head-over-heels over Mitt Romney. Praised him to the skies, and dumped on anyone opposing him. Loathed Palin. Seemed entirely dismissive (if not actually antagonistic) towards the grassroots/tea-party. Her GOP-E ilk always hated Reagan. She needs to be reminded that Ronald Reagan was not a Myth. He actually accomplished Historic Achievements. He also said what he meant and meant what he said.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 4/27/2013 6:42:03 AM     (No. 9299021)

She is flat wrong here. Once in awhile she writes something intelligent. This is not it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Judith, 4/27/2013 6:43:33 AM     (No. 9299023)

The GOP has to finally own up to the fact that it is now a democrat entity. The rest of the country has to find a new political party that behaves like a responsible adult. And Rubin has to realize that she, too, is actually a democrat, she never transformed.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Grace Veritas, 4/27/2013 7:02:26 AM     (No. 9299037)

Omigosh, what is it with the suicidal tendencies of the Republican Party? Can you imagine the Dems ever talking about the need to dial it back on the deification of FDR, JFK, heck, for that matter Mikhail Gorbachev? A more self-loathing party than the Republicans (as governed by its elites) cannot be imagined.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: plumnellie, 4/27/2013 7:05:07 AM     (No. 9299040)

Thanks OP. I have long felt Lcom had serial posters and Rubin would probably be the type to be one. I guess she has forgotten that Mitt lost, Dole lost, McCain lost but Reagan won twice. She wants the conservatives to stop trying to follow their beliefs and just rubber stamp the liberal Repubs.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 4/27/2013 7:06:02 AM     (No. 9299041)

Jennifer is a denizen of DC and, as such, she hates the conservatives across the country. Sometimes I wonder if she has ever ventured outside her Washington-Maryland-Northern Virginia confines. She probably has visited the Grand Canyon and believes that gives her credibility to expound on various GOP topics vs conservatives´ views.

I will say her tv makeup has improved over the last year or two.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: nonsense, 4/27/2013 7:13:37 AM     (No. 9299046)

Must agree with other L-dotters, she is a Bloomin´ Boomtowner, filled with cocktail party chatter and advice for the "little people".

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Reply 7 - Posted by: RoseOfTexas, 4/27/2013 7:20:47 AM     (No. 9299059)

When I think of people the GOP has to get over, the first one that comes to mind is Marco Rubio.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 4/27/2013 7:26:22 AM     (No. 9299067)

Rush should have fun with this one today.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 4/27/2013 7:26:56 AM     (No. 9299069)

Whoops, I mean Monday.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Freeloader, 4/27/2013 7:51:01 AM     (No. 9299098)

Forget Sir Ronaldus Magnus, our leader who carried 49 States in 1984 and secured for the GOP the greatest Electoral College victory in the history of The Republic?...Wonder how much The Washington Post pays this young political ignoramus?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: kahunavol, 4/27/2013 8:06:59 AM     (No. 9299125)

Jennifer and her cohorts here are like liberal Episcopalians. They have won and now control the denomination/party but found that those whom they have conquered are not obliged to continue the association. Now what you do with what you won is up to you entirely. Have fun with that because it doesn´t seem to be working out very well for you.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 4/27/2013 8:10:21 AM     (No. 9299128)

Four pages! Wow. Well, she certainly tried hard.

I revere Ronald Reagan. I have sometimes thought, however, that any subsequent candidate is in the position of a second wife who can never measure up to her husband´s memory of his sainted first wife.

This longing for another Reagan has been a stumbling block for a great many Republicans and as we read constantly on this site, they will settle for no less and will stay home before they accept less. Even worse, they will attack and denigrate any proposed successor thereby helping the Democrats while claiming they are standing up for principle. I don´t think there is any cure for what ails them.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LouD, 4/27/2013 8:26:22 AM     (No. 9299148)

I couldn´t even get past the Johnson and Obama were icons. Barf!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Guard SGT (ret), 4/27/2013 8:31:30 AM     (No. 9299150)

First the Corrupt Party has to admit that Barry Soetoro is an unconstitutional Usurper and not the 44th President. When they admit he and their party are a total fraud, I might listen.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: sunsong, 4/27/2013 8:36:39 AM     (No. 9299160)

She is totally right. Excellent article!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 4/27/2013 8:44:19 AM     (No. 9299166)

#5, Rubin is a Californian with undergrad and law school at Berkeley and a 20 year stint as a labor lawyer in Hollyweird and only recently moved to the DC area...what GOP campaigns, local or state organizations, or local/state/federal administrations has she actually been involved with? How did she become designated a conservative columnist? Rubin, her spin and the WaPo are bogus...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: zzzghy, 4/27/2013 8:52:27 AM     (No. 9299175)

I agree; Rubin uses four pages to argue a point that a skilled writer could manage in two, but I´m not willing to throw her overboard just for that.


Today’s Republican Party, however, faces legions of voters and candidates who came of age politically after Reagan’s eight years in office. An entire generation recalls him vaguely as a genial, optimistic president who stood up for America in the Cold War.

The Republican Party can remain a Ronald Reagan historical society, or it can try to endure as a force in national politics. But it can’t do both. The choice matters greatly, for there is no guarantee that the GOP will retain its ability to win national elections or that conservatism has a future as a national governing philosophy.

She could´ve stopped there.

The GOP is constipated, big time. People in that condition are no fun to be around, and they can´t get anything done because they´re all plugged up and self-absorbed.

Conservative voters are pretty much on the outside looking in now; the democrats are off-the-hook crazy and the GOP isn´t very far behind. Rubin´s list of new ´pubbie "leaders" doesn´t exactly inspire -- McDonnell, Walker, Christie, Rubio Paul, Jindal, Martinez -- and it makes me wonder if the lofo phenom and a truly crappy roster of GOPers might be producing a perfect storm that could lay waste the Republican Party (on the national scene, at least) for a couple decades. That would probably be fatal for our Country, at least, as we know it.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ramona, 4/27/2013 9:08:44 AM     (No. 9299198)

Yeah, well, I´ve just always wanted to go down a rabbit hole.....
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bella, 4/27/2013 9:39:30 AM     (No. 9299235)

Ms. Rubin is wrong, again.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: tisHimself, 4/27/2013 9:44:39 AM     (No. 9299240)

Jennifer Rubin, spokesperson for the establishment Flat Earth republicans. Enjoy the free shrimp and merlot, sleep in on Sunday and pretend that 2010 didn´t happen. And whatever you do, pay no attention to the tea party villagers with their pitchforks and their torches, they just don´t understand the brilliance of the enlightened republican royalists.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Angry Dumbo, 4/27/2013 9:45:24 AM     (No. 9299241)

I agree with Rubin about the purity issue. There is only one Reagan and as a party we should be able to argue about policy, not simply imitate Reagan´s. So long as we focus on framing issues within the context of limited government under the enumerated powers, I´m good.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: jansgraphix, 4/27/2013 9:51:36 AM     (No. 9299250)

She was a democrat when the Reagan revolution happened and missed the whole thing. Now shes switched to republican. Obviously the transformation was incomplete which helps explain a lot. A more perfect rino could not be ´made´.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: yuban, 4/27/2013 9:52:53 AM     (No. 9299253)

It is easy to name the posters that could be Rubin. We already have another RR but the Moderates that run the GOP hate her and continually try to destroy her. The Moderates would rather keep losing the WH than to let a Conservative win.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Grumpy Yee, 4/27/2013 9:59:09 AM     (No. 9299259)

I heard Mark Levin´s comments on her piece and he tore her a new one and I stopped reading this woman´s writings a long time ago because she always appeared to be brain dead whenever I read her column. Now this just proves she is totally clueless.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: jasmine, 4/27/2013 10:15:48 AM     (No. 9299290)

I have to agree that John McCain makes an ugly poster child for the GOP. But isn´t that the point? It´s not Reagan who is out of place. The biggest threat to the GOP comes from RINOs like McCain, who are stupidly pushing the legalization of millions of undocumented Democrats. How dumb do you have to be to miss that?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: stablemoney, 4/27/2013 10:17:32 AM     (No. 9299293)


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Reply 27 - Posted by: kanphil, 4/27/2013 10:19:14 AM     (No. 9299298)

Get over Reagan? That´s like saying we should get over the Constitution. Ain´t gonna happen.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 4/27/2013 10:31:02 AM     (No. 9299319)

We will if the Left gets over Bill C. At least our Icon is legit. Sorry Jen, you slipped off the rail on this one.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 4/27/2013 10:31:56 AM     (No. 9299321)

Well it surprised me to see a moderate Republican go after Reagan. I mean it is almost like they want to emulate and imitate the dims.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 4/27/2013 10:39:59 AM     (No. 9299325)

Rubin´s basic point is sound - the terrain has changed a great deal since the 1970´s and ´80´s. We have a different electorate which is larger, browner and weaned on video games, sloppy education, sexual license and the notion of government as the all-purpose Sugar Daddy.

Does a traditional conservative message resonate with such a people? No. But do Rubin´s mushy, imprecise prescriptions offer a workable alternative? I don´t think so.

A country in the grip of political correctness, myopia and determined ignorance of the social and economic consequences of its current course will not be turned around by politicians, however solid or well intentioned.

Sorry to be the skunk at the picnic, but I don´t see any way out. I´ll be the first to rejoice if I am eventually proven wrong.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: god of irony, 4/27/2013 10:57:56 AM     (No. 9299351)

The basic laws of how a society works has NOT changed. Humans are best served with a government, social and economical system that is the least intrusive as possible. The best government can hope to do is to slow things up a little. Reagan understood and so does all REAL conservatives.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 4/27/2013 11:13:30 AM     (No. 9299374)

Talk of finding or forming a " new party" is a tale told by an idiot.

No new party could becom competitive for decades. Don´´t sacrifice the possibility of actually winning a presidential election for foolish principle.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 4/27/2013 11:23:15 AM     (No. 9299390)

The Republican party has left me. USIP anyone?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 4/27/2013 11:24:41 AM     (No. 9299394)

Reagan was a good man that genuinely cared about and loved America and believed in and projected the greatness of our wonderful country and it´s people.

He knew that liberalism is a destructive force and that government exasperates problems and that liberal policies result in untold pain, misery, death and degradation to our lives.

He believed in life including the life of the unborn, liberty (individual freedom) and the pursuit of happiness to live out your dreams.

In my opinion RINOs like their liberal brothers have no moral compass and a limited sense of right and wrong.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 4/27/2013 11:25:49 AM     (No. 9299396)

Yeah, Republicans better "get over" Reagan.

Face the facts. The GOP-E is never going to allow a conservative, well spoken honest and honorable person, who loves all the things that once made America great, to win a nomination again.

The GOP-E would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven. Heck, they would rather serve the left in hell, as long as they got a nice slice of the pie and the illusion that they are important.

The USA will never have an inspirational leader again. Only rulers and pseudo-populist figureheads.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/27/2013 11:35:04 AM     (No. 9299410)

That headline is a bit harsh.

Ronald Reagan wanted to win and knew that far right would not do it. (Remember, he had been on the other side for many years and had also been president of a union.) This is hard for many here to swallow, but it was his rationale when he made that "big tent" remark.

He was also a pragmatist, willing to compromise to at least get most of what he wanted.

I don´t believe he would be "electable" by today´s Republicans. The conservatives of today could not go along with his pragmatism.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: tomishere, 4/27/2013 11:56:40 AM     (No. 9299437)

Reagen would be hated by many posters here, for compromising with democrats. Reagens tax plan was suppose to be like the reductions in england, reductions of 10/10/10 for the first three years, his was 5/10/10. Bill Buckley asked him why he compromised with the democrats and he replied the "art of the possible". Could you imagine the snark and insults thrown at him with today´s conservatives. He raised taxes in 83, could you imagine our posters if he did that now, also thhe also didn´t cut social spending as much as he could have, he knew there was no political will for that. We now have very rigid demands that Reagen himself couldn´t live up to.

Although some parts of the article have fuzzy logic, the idea we need to make the conservative position relevant to today´s society makes sense, the rise of the one issue voter is really killing us, many poster here would never have voted for Reagen if they disagreed with him on any issue. The part of not connecting emotionally is a big problem for us, Reagen was a master at that. I think all she is trying to say is we need to be better at choosing our battles.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: sunsong, 4/27/2013 12:16:21 PM     (No. 9299453)

Republicans need to come into the 21st century and learn where they are in time. The GOP ought to be about empowering the individual (the BIll of Rights) and empowering the middle class.

Instead, right now, they are about hating - hating gays, hating immigrants, hating women, hating liberals, hating moderates, essentially hating anyone ANYONE who does not agree with them. They are so distant from Christ´s Love it is embarassing.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Penney, 4/27/2013 12:20:39 PM     (No. 9299459)

Aside from restoring integrity, prosperity and strength to the USA following the disastrous malaise of Carter´s tenure and his Iran debacle, and all-the-while setting the captives of Communism free around the planet, who can possible attempt to marginalize the value & vision of President Reagan´s leadership when they can read his own words which are now published and available to all who cherish Life, Liberty and Justice for all?! Both his radio broadcasts before becoming President which he composed himself and are now available in published written form, and his journals which he wrote IN HIS OWN WORDS best relate RR´s authentic wisdom and where it came from.

Pres. Reagan´s example of leadership by example will probably never be surpassed as he remains one of American history´s greatest men to have ever occupied the WH, ...but voters must never give up that daunting quest! Why settle for the opposite?! America deserves the very best of our leaders and Pres. Reagan´s integrity, policy accomplishments & good cheer represent the best example of leadership which America has produced and has to offer the future.

Note: Despite the constant taunting by the lefty/lib/dem media, Pres. Reagan knew & displayed exactly how to handle the always negative press critters!

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Reply 40 - Posted by: hot coffee, 4/27/2013 12:25:55 PM     (No. 9299464)

Reagan is easily the best president of my lifetime.

If he were around today, the usual suspects would call him a RINO.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: msjena, 4/27/2013 12:30:48 PM     (No. 9299468)

The issue is not Ronald Reagan versus 2013. The issue is conservative ideas and philosophy. If they are right, they don´t change. Lower taxes, smaller government, individual liberty. That those happened to be Reagan´s ideas don´t make them any less relevant today.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Susannah, 4/27/2013 12:55:05 PM     (No. 9299488)

Well, Posters 12, 13, 16, 31, 33, 37, 38, 39, and 41 have clearly revealed themselves to be Jennifer Rubin in disguise, with more to come, no doubt. Where does she find the time?

Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of my lifetime. But to quote the late John Gary: "Once upon a time never comes again."

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Reply 43 - Posted by: TXknitter, 4/27/2013 12:56:53 PM     (No. 9299491)

If Reagan were around today, he would be vilified exactly like Sarah Palin. The elites (Bush crowd) despised him behind the scenes. It keeps one´s thinking straight to always remember that fact.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 4/27/2013 1:10:41 PM     (No. 9299506)

#44 and others, if RR was around today he would get the nomination. Let´s not forget he was dismissed as a light weight in his runs for and service as governor of CA and president. Go back and read #40...RR was of very high intellect and wrote extensively for years, and when you couple that with a love of country, core principles, and a unique magnetism whether you dealt with him one on one or in a large audience or via the TV, you have a winner. GOP winners since Ike have all been from big states, and two were governors with executive experience in large states. He also was a politician who assembled a crack team of no-nonsense players for his campaigns and for governing (including a cadre of Bushies and folks we now call RINOs). I´m looking at a Scott Walker or more polished Rick Perry for 2016.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: absalom, 4/27/2013 1:40:30 PM     (No. 9299530)

The GOP has never been a conservative party. NEVER! It´s energizing theme was preserving the Union, a noble cause it consummated in much blood. Post Civil War, its theme shifted to secular progressivism which encouraged the expansion of industrial capitalism; creating great wealth and resulted in the R´s being labeled the party of big business which has little, if anything, in common w/principled conservatism. So is it any wonder the GOP nominated but two conservatives in the last 100 years? Rubin, an R lefty, speaks for the Est. gang that presented the voters w/the likes of Hover, Landon, Wilkie, Dewey, the Bushes, Romney etc; her core argument being that conservatism is a loser and to win the GOP need more of the same old. Really? Sadly a number of posters believe that garbage. Despite all the happy talk, the R´s have been in decline since FDR; the D´s effective control of Congress being testament to that reality. Conservatives understand full well the electoral dynamic in play; the sad sack GOP does not.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 4/27/2013 1:46:25 PM     (No. 9299532)

It´s one thing to argue over policies and change them if they need changing.

But I will never abandon my principles for the sake of political expediency. And make no mistake about it, the argument within the GOP right now is all about principles. Jennifer Rubin and her ilk are apparently happy to be cast as "slightly more parsimonious liberals." If the GOP goes that way, I will happily vote Libertarian.

There is nothing magical about the GOP, and if it abandons me and my principles, I will look elsewhere.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 4/27/2013 1:49:43 PM     (No. 9299533)

Well #43, I for one (#31) am not Jennifer Rubin. I wouldn´t even know what a morning make-up routine is all about. But if you have some idea of how to sell conservative ideas to an increasingly ignorant and slovenly electorate, by all means have at it. I´ll contribute to your PAC or vote for you.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: mseegal, 4/27/2013 1:51:37 PM     (No. 9299536)

When I saw the article´s headline, my head nearly exploded. I admit to being a rabid fan of RR. After I actually read the article, though, I found myself agreeing with some of her points, but not all. My favorite line was "Policy without a politician is a dissertation." Hello, Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney!!

I´m so upset with all the problems #31 related, that I´m inclined to retire my 2009 Tea Party posters, hang up my marching shoes, focus on my family, my neighbors and God´s Holy Word. Then comes the Ted Cruz candidacy, which the Texas GOP establishment (that´s you Rick Perry and all the Bushes) tried to kill in its cradle. Dewhurst had all the money and organization, but we had THE candidate and grass-roots passion. The rest of America is discovering Ted Cruz and you can thank non-establishment conservative Texans for that! You´re welcome.

So my prescription is tell the RNC to go to heck, work like crazy in the primaries for conservatives and don´t let the federal mess in Washington steal your joy. Someday we will have our national candidate, rather than a dissertation, and conservativism will be restored.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: beth, 4/27/2013 2:11:56 PM     (No. 9299551)

No one should set aside the issues they find most important to support a party. If there is no one on the ballot who represents my concerns than why vote? As someone who has voted Republican for over three decades, I´m finding it harder to want to even bother.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: tomishere, 4/27/2013 2:43:15 PM     (No. 9299571)

#43 I doubt you read the article, you are the type that would have turned against Reagen if he did one thing you didn´t agree with. The governors she used as examples have put conservative principals into action, but they have done it without hostility towards groups they disagree with. The article points out we have failed to explain how conservatism can make life better for the masses. One of the many brilliant attributes of Reagen was he had the ability to show how conservative principals could make peoples lies better. while Reagen was staunchly pro life, he was not hostile towards any group of people, like some conservatives are. I will remind everybody Reagen was the proponent of the big tent.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: redink, 4/27/2013 2:59:14 PM     (No. 9299585)

I suppose we should also get over George Washington, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry...oh, and while we´re getting over heroic Americans, why not include across the pond: Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill.

What is it with pundits? Courage is a thing to be emulated and admired.
Does Jennifer think Conservatives need a cloned Reagan? The purity meme is getting old. What a foolish woman.
We need a SPINE.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 4/27/2013 3:02:34 PM     (No. 9299592)

FTA: "The old guard has become convinced that Reagan’s solutions to the problems of his time were the essence of conservatism — not simply conservative ideas appropriate for that era."

Rubin thinks we need to "move on" from what she considers ideas appropriate for a past era. That is a familiar argument. It is an argument made with regard to the U.S. Constitution and even the Holy Bible. To some, that "outdated worldview" and those old paths have served their time and purpose and this postmodern era requires a new kind of thinking for a new updated worldview.

Rubin says, "A successful political party must not just acknowledge new realities but adjust to them, even embrace them." She wants to "step away from the Reagan hymnal" and redefine conservatism.
That redefinition by the "New Right" means doing away with conservatism´s foundational principles.

But that old Book, the inspired word of God, and its precepts embraced by our Founding Documents have been the foundation of the most free and prosperous country the world has known. We have been able to adjust and overcome all obstacles ("new realities") so long as we remained true to those basic precepts and principles.

That old Book says in Jeremiah 6:16 -

Thus says the Lord:

“Stand in the ways and see,
And ask for the old paths, where the good way is,
And walk in it;
Then you will find rest for your souls.
But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

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Reply 53 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 4/27/2013 3:03:49 PM     (No. 9299595)

#53 contd:

This country is ´going to hell in a handbasket´ and the new thinkers want to not only throw away the restorative "hymnal" that inspires a return to the old paths, but to embrace the "new realities" along the road to perdition where the blind are leading the blind, and the POTUS is asking the blessings of God on an organization known for embracing that new normal of abortion on demand - a woman´s right to have her baby murdered (and to make certain it dies even if the first attempt isn´t successful). What we need is enough leaders with the ability to see and to educate others to see before we are destroyed. May God help us to return to the old paths that lead to Him.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 4/27/2013 3:07:23 PM     (No. 9299599)

#51...I think you misconstrue the big tent...Reagan built a tent on a foundation of conservative principles and welcomed all to who chose to enter it, knowing they would be standing on that foundation. I´ll never forget a meeting he had with Jesse Jackson during the ´80 campaign, one Reagan insisted on but Jesse tried mightily to avoid because Jimmah Carter had him by the short hairs for misusing federal grant money...Reagan was lightly briefed because the meeting was literally scheduled at the last minute...Jesse tried to set him up by announcing to the traveling press the KKK in some small town had endorsed RR that morning...Reagan preempted him, announced his REJECTION of the endorsement and made it clear that those whose support he welcomed must accept his principles....

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Reply 55 - Posted by: Susannah, 4/27/2013 3:40:19 PM     (No. 9299627)

#48 and #51, it was a joke playing on the observations made by earlier posters that Jennifer Rubin was posting here under various disguises, and based on the notion that anyone who agreed in any part with what Rubin said would automatically be branded a RINO. Perhaps I should have been more clear. As it happens, I DID read the article, and I agreed with many of the points that Rubin made. And I heartily agreed with both your posts.

As for a solution to the problem? I have no idea of how to sell conservative ideas to electorate that increasingly wants a nanny state. I wish I did.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: KingBubo, 4/27/2013 4:10:16 PM     (No. 9299658)

Yes and no. Many love Reagan (rightfully so), but do their best to ignore the 11th commandment.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: tisHimself, 4/27/2013 5:04:14 PM     (No. 9299695)

The big tent works a lot better when somebody not from the RockfellerBushRomney wing of the liberal republican wing holds the clip board and hires the entertainment. As for those Roverites who shrug their shoulders and admit they cannot sell conservative ideals-- we agree, you suck at it because you don´t believe in it. Stand aside.
As to the gnashing of teeth over the eleventh commandment-- all but one of the republican nomination seekers agreed to stay positive, but faced with the inability to get over 26% the guy with the money and nothing to sell went negative earliest, most often and didn´t look back. And Jennifer Rubin and the people here who parrot her vibe certainly weren´t troubled by the eleventh commandment then. Commandments only apply to the believers, the faithful, the bitter clingers. Enjoy the artichoke dip.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: TXknitter, 4/27/2013 7:16:18 PM     (No. 9299798)

#45, I am well aware of every fact you mentioned about one of our finest Presidents, Ronald Reagan. I did not say he could not WIN an election today. I am of the opinion that his core principles, crack intellect and outstanding speaking ability would serve him just as well today. Mark Levin was there and he saw first hand how the Rockefeller Republicans despised him. I read #40 and agree wholeheartedly with every word.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 4/27/2013 8:47:17 PM     (No. 9299859)

Some things I remember about Reagan, You could believe what he said. He meant what he said and said what he meant. You could trust him. He was truthful to Americans. He was anti-corruption. Now we have the exact opposite squatting in the White House. Obama lies all the time, you can´t believe a word he says and he is corrupt. I don´t understand why the Republicans don´t embrace being the anti-corruption party? They never talk about corruption, how money is misspent around Washington. The DemocRATS are thoroughly corrupt. Obamacare is corrupt. Unless the Repubs start to care about corruption, the TEA Party will overtake them and I will gladly support the TEA Party people over the corrupt establishment Repubs.

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