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The Anti-Snobbery of ´Downton Abbey´
Wall Street Journal, by Raymond Zhong

Original Article

Posted By:FlyRight, 2/2/2013 4:29:37 PM

London - The Anti-Snobbery of ´Downton Abbey´ The creator of the hit television series on class and comfort in our increasingly uncertain times. Julian Fellowes, the creator and writer of "Downton Abbey," doesn´t take long to say what he thinks is the message of his smash television drama. "I think the—well, not even the subtext, the supertext—of ´Downton,´ " he says not five minutes after we sit down for coffee Monday morning at the Savoy Hotel in central London, "is that it is possible for us all to get on, that we don´t have to be ranged in class warfare permanently—that for the general public,

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: 2dogs, 2/2/2013 4:44:59 PM     (No. 9154755)

Spot on!


Reply 2 - Posted by: killerbee, 2/2/2013 5:00:42 PM     (No. 9154772)

FTA: "I think America has dealt with—I mean, this is simplistic and of course I don´t live in America—but the impression I get is that there is not a kind of obligation to dislike those who are better off or be frightened of those who are worse off . . . The Americans, I think, are better at seeing themselves as a kind of community—that the important thing is to be American."

That used to be. The media, entertainment industry, and politicians have created rifts for their own gain that may be insurmountable.

I wish we truly were as he describes us.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Dante, 2/2/2013 5:21:51 PM     (No. 9154792)

Yep, his vision of America isn´t reality. The left has created a permanent, ignorant underclass to whom they can lie and pander in order to maintain power.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Rafter, 2/2/2013 5:43:08 PM     (No. 9154822)

Shirley MacLaine is in this...
and her daughter Sachi Parker says she is/was a lousy mom.

Only interested in being a star...
and her husband of 28 years, Steve Parker, was a con man only interested in her money.

Sheesh! I thought she was a psychic genius.
Took 28 years to ditch her con man hubby.
Remind me not to watch this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Dante, 2/2/2013 5:47:28 PM     (No. 9154829)

Your choice, #4, but MacLaine has only a tiny role and is in maybe three episodes. I can´t stand her either, but it´s no reason to avoid an outstanding show.


Reply 6 - Posted by: ketchuplover, 2/2/2013 6:02:25 PM     (No. 9154852)

This is perhaps one of the best shows on tv now. My 81-y.o. mother and I´ve been hooked for a year, having watched the first season on Netflix, the second season on Hulu, and now the third season on PBS. There are so many compelling characters. One thing, however, we have to watch with the close captioning, because sometimes those Brits just cannot talk plain English! :-)


Reply 7 - Posted by: mabel normand, 2/2/2013 6:09:21 PM     (No. 9154861)

#4 And she delivers one of the best lines of the whole season, if you´re a conservative. But hey, you should totally skip that whole series because Dancing in the Light irritated you.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Susannah, 2/2/2013 6:16:00 PM     (No. 9154872)

I highly recommend Fellowes´ two novels, "Snobs" and "Past Imperfect," both of which are variations on the theme of class in Britain. "Snobs" may be the better of the two in terms of character and construction, but they´re both very worthwhile.


Reply 9 - Posted by: nonsense, 2/2/2013 6:19:31 PM     (No. 9154883)

I believe Americans are as Julian Fellowes describes. It is just our un-American Dear Leader who does not understand, or who does understand but has become fixated on class warfare as a weapon of distraction.


Reply 10 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 2/2/2013 6:28:35 PM     (No. 9154895)

I love Downton Abbey and have watched it since the beginning. There are many characters from different classes and many points of view are represented. Each has frustrations and problems caused by cultural pressures and world changing events. I don´t know about it being "anti snobbery". Grandmother Cawley has a pretty rigid sense of class.


Reply 11 - Posted by: FunnyGirl, 2/2/2013 6:32:10 PM     (No. 9154901)

I love the show - superb writing and acting. We are a divided country and we can blame it all on the left or we can do our part to reverse it. The first step would be to stop using divisive terms like "low information voters", "makers & takers",etc. It starts with us.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Pearson365, 2/2/2013 6:35:53 PM     (No. 9154906)

To # 9, Downton Abbey is the perfect example of why Romney was correct in ending the taxpayer subsidies. DA is a BBC production, and other than broadcasting series, PBS has zero to do with show. Which begs question, what in the world is PBS doing with our money?


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: trombo, 2/2/2013 6:45:15 PM     (No. 9154911)

Absolutely the best show on TV. The ensemble cast is amazing, the writing is superb, the sets and costumes are just beautiful. Last week´s episode was the best hour of TV I have seen in years. I recommend to all of you that you watch it.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 2/2/2013 7:10:36 PM     (No. 9154941)

Shirley McLain was awful - - simply dreadful.

I´ve always admired her work - - especially the roles she played on Planet Earth - - but I think it´s past time for her to retire to her home on Asteroid Xygnot - - and live out her years there.


Reply 15 - Posted by: WAN2, 2/2/2013 7:14:17 PM     (No. 9154947)

The cars, sets, scenery and clothes are jim-dandy. Now if only I liked soap operas.


Reply 16 - Posted by: masscon, 2/2/2013 7:49:47 PM     (No. 9154978)

It´s soap opera all right. Can´t stand the upstairs crowd. Especially the parents. Cora´s maiden name is Levin? She´s Jewish? Give me a break.


Reply 17 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 2/2/2013 8:32:54 PM     (No. 9155021)

Part of the appeal to me is that I would love to live like the upper class did in England between the wars. They had servants, beautiful homes, did nothing but entertain and be entertained. What´s not to like.

Now being a scullery maid might not be so peachy....


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 2/2/2013 8:43:57 PM     (No. 9155031)

#9 just wanted an excuse to knock Romney, #13.


Reply 19 - Posted by: jorgecito, 2/2/2013 8:58:23 PM     (No. 9155038)

Article is interesting, but agree with #16:
Downton Abbey is soap opera schlock.

Pretty costumes and cars; dreadful acting and writing.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Penney, 2/2/2013 9:17:22 PM     (No. 9155050)

We haven´t seem it but look forward to checking it out on Netflix. Successful dramas do NOT need tax-funded pbs/npr to showcase them.

Defund the dems´ ´public´ broadcasting!


Reply 21 - Posted by: smcchk, 2/2/2013 10:42:03 PM     (No. 9155113)

The best part of Downton Abbey is that the characters are realistic. The staff aren´t all always-wise, downtrodden victims. The family aren´t always arrogant snobs. At one political rally, it´s the socialists who bring in some thugs to cause trouble. The characters are very affecting and the scenery and sets are fantastic!


Reply 22 - Posted by: FlyRight, 2/3/2013 7:32:35 AM     (No. 9155367)

Read a little history. Many American Jewish millionaires married their daughters to English aristocracy looking for what they felt was social clout. There are Jews throughout the best family in England to this day. Anyone remember Churchill´s mother, Jennie Jerome from Brooklyn? And the character´s name was Levinson.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/3/2013 7:48:53 AM     (No. 9155384)

I´m telling you, Brendon Coyle (John Bates) and Eric Bolling (Fox The Five) were separated at birth.

I´m a big Downton Abbey fan, as is my fifteen-year-old granddaughter. So, the appeal is wide.


Reply 24 - Posted by: Namma, 2/3/2013 8:10:13 AM     (No. 9155413)

Many daughters of the new found rich in America married into English society,taking millions of American dollars with them. This helped the English Lords and Dukes to keep their castle like homes from ruin. Marshall Fields daughter Ethel, became a Countess, Consuelo Vanderbilt became the Duchess of Marlborough..It was a way to get a title and be in high society..Amerians did not have titles and the only way to get one was to marry into English society.
What brought the English high society down was the opening of trade between countries..the Lords who had the serfs working the land no longer grew their own food, they could buy imported products cheaper. The one product that really caused the downfall of the lords and dukes was American Wheat.
Most servants were not treated as nicely as Downton Abbey protrays...the servants were there to take care of the the Dukes and Duchess. Most of their work was done before the house woke so they were not seen by the Lord and Lady of the manor...
I love this show...and wait all year for the next 6 segments....


Reply 25 - Posted by: chillijilli, 2/3/2013 8:15:46 AM     (No. 9155420)

As a former expat, I´ve always said that I´m never as aware of how American I am until I´m around a Brit. This series validates my feelings. It may be soapy, but isn´t it interesting to see similar character arcs developing within the aristocracy and within the staff?
Shirley MacLain couldn´t hold a candle to Maggie Smith. Her script was mostly 2-word sentences, and she looked like a clown. Hopefully, an excuse to write her out of further episodes will be forthcoming, to save her any more embarrassment.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 2/3/2013 8:18:07 AM     (No. 9155424)

You can purchase all of Season 3 on Amazon. Snowing here in Kentucky and I am watching it...to avoid Super Bowl idiocy...not the game, just the all-day-pre-game nonsense.

Growing weary with the Bates in prison thread.


Reply 27 - Posted by: M2, 2/3/2013 8:24:03 AM     (No. 9155431)

Fabulous series. The third season is now available on DVD in stores, which we just took advantage of.

Superb acting and a window into England´s royalty mindset and class-divisions at the time. I doubt much has changed among the Brits, but a lot has changed here in America regarding class differences.

Many would insist there are no class differences here but that is no longer true, thanks in large part to the Left´s demonization of "the rich" against "the disenfranchised."

While in Downton Abbey´s structure there is dignity in work even at the "lowest" levels of society, in America, there is no dignity in work at all, except for the few remaining Americans who find honor in working.

For L.Dotters not familiar with the show, do try watching from the beginning. Maggie Smith, as always, steals every scene just with a lift of an eyebrow.

This season´s addition of Shirley MacLaine is a mystery to me. She´s abyssmal and too many plastic surgeries have taken their toll. Meowwww....


Reply 28 - Posted by: masscon, 2/3/2013 8:24:58 AM     (No. 9155433)

Elizabeth McGovern Jewish? But the old man is anti-Catholic.


Reply 29 - Posted by: reformationmama, 2/3/2013 8:26:33 AM     (No. 9155434)

Have been a fan of the show before the first episode. We most certainly have snobs in America as shown by our very one Snob-in-Chief who has made it a habit of seeing how many first person pronouns he can use in his blathering pronouncements.


Reply 30 - Posted by: Echohawk, 2/3/2013 8:36:48 AM     (No. 9155448)

Good point, #22. Fellows turns our expectations inside out. Yes, there are the wretched excesses of the evil rich, but there are plenty of evil poor in this series as well. It´s the evil poor who do the most damage.
I really like the way Cora (the American) looks at the class/religion struggle in DA and shakes her head in bewilderment. Fellows is right--Americans don´t care about such things.
Obama has used class and race to gain power. He is the aberration, the anti-American.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Flyball dogs, 2/3/2013 8:48:32 AM     (No. 9155473)

Love the show! My 87 (tomorrow) yr old mother enjoys, too, although the words are a bit mushy sometimes. Bought seasons 1 and 2 and will probably buy no. 3 soon.
I was reading about plot lines for no. 4, and they may get racier (more gay storylines for instance). I recognize that the human condition has not really changed since the Garden, so I do hope Julian does not bow to the PC crowd. I have already detected some phrases and words that seem a little more suited to today.

But love love love the show. I may go buy a hat!!


Reply 32 - Posted by: bubby, 2/3/2013 8:49:56 AM     (No. 9155479)

I enjoy the show and just started watching it recently. My grandfather left England and migrated to Canada after fighting in WWI to get away from the very class system portrayed in the show. That class in England inherited enormous wealth and landholdings by birthright. I believe we are headed in that direction because the Democrats are making it impossible to create new wealth since most of it will be taken in taxes. The old wealth held mostly by leftists will continue to be passed along. We are all headed to become servants of the Government I´m afraid.


Reply 33 - Posted by: ZurichMike, 2/3/2013 9:00:47 AM     (No. 9155513)

Agree that the costumes and set-shots are gorgeous. The plot themes are borrowed badly from any number of works by Jane Austen, Evelyn Waugh, Anthony Trollope, Oscar Wilde, Henry James, and Edith Wharton, to name a few. If you´ve seen "Upstairs Downstairs" or "Brideshead Revisited" you can tell how derivative and water-downed this series is. A few clever lines does not make for world-class TV, but it does make for good entertainment.

With a series that includes about 16 characters, at best you get just a couple of clever lines per character, but no real character development; every character is a caricature: the ditzy American wife with money, the dashing heir to the family estate, the scheming and ugly maid, the stern butler with the deep voice.

But its appeal is that the speed and frequency of changes scenery and clever bon-mots matches perfectly the speed and frequency needs of a generation that lives for sight-bites, sound-bites, mobile phone photos, and text messages.

Having said all that, I would sell my grandmother to live in the library of Downton Abbey!


Reply 34 - Posted by: lizzee1, 2/3/2013 9:03:11 AM     (No. 9155516)

I am watching ´´Upstairs Downstairs´´ for the first time, on Netflix, and Downton Abbey is somewhat of a clone. The same things occur,there are similar characters..even down to a cook that screams at the scullery maids.I like them both, but this has been done before.


Reply 35 - Posted by: msjena, 2/3/2013 9:06:55 AM     (No. 9155522)

#17--Cora is based on a real person, who was half-Jewish. She was the daughter of Levi Leitner, who founded Marshall Fields.


Reply 36 - Posted by: kanphil, 2/3/2013 9:25:29 AM     (No. 9155550)

When my BH first brought this to my attention,I dismissed it as just another chick flick. But, I am a sucker for anything with Maggie Smith in it, so I sat down and watched one episode all the way through. Now, I´m hooked. Don´t want to miss a minute of it. As to PBS, they are not necessary. DA would have found commercial sponsors on one of the networks. The network would have been far better off sponsoring DA than the drivel they have on now.


Reply 37 - Posted by: smcchk, 2/3/2013 9:29:23 AM     (No. 9155552)

Please forgive the double post but #28 mentioned something that we have so obviously lost in our "developed" world and that is the dignity of work. The sense of honor and the standards of conduct down to the lowest kitchen maid are sadly gone from today´s world. And one tip, use subtitles, if you have them, as British speak can be hard to understand.


Reply 38 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 2/3/2013 9:40:16 AM     (No. 9155571)

I never thought of America as having a class system until I began observing politics and saw the straight line connecting the Ivy League law schools to our three branches of government.
This is why our elected politicians look down their nose at the voter. They argue on the floor of Congress for the cameras, but enjoy drinks together at the club afterwards. We ARE the ignorant masses for continuing to send them back.


Reply 39 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 2/3/2013 9:43:47 AM     (No. 9155585)

Personally, I have developed a crush on the gentle ´´Carson´´ aka Jim Carter.

Didn´t you just love this quote FTA? ´´That is written because they have to say something,´´ Lord Fellowes says of his detractors in the British press. ´´And in this country, you have to say something nasty.´´


Reply 40 - Posted by: farmwife, 2/3/2013 9:57:14 AM     (No. 9155607)

Love the series, love Maggie Smith.


Reply 41 - Posted by: locomotivebreath1901, 2/3/2013 10:00:32 AM     (No. 9155612)

I´ve never understood why elite, lavish and erudite productions about elite, lavish and erudite people amid elite, lavish and erudite backdrops require the taxpayer subsidized efforts of PBS.


Reply 42 - Posted by: Tianne, 2/3/2013 11:00:05 AM     (No. 9155705)

Downton Abbey is television at its best. With the exception of the very few, the characters of the series treat one another with graciousness, courtesy, and respect and the characters that don’t display those qualities are scorned by the others - sometimes subtly but effectively with only the lift of an eyebrow. Impeccable manners and dignified and honorable behaviors are absolutely expected of the characters at all times. One character, Matthew, has struggles with an issue that results in painful soul-searching and self-criticism – he holds himself to stern self-examination, the concept of which is sadly unfamiliar to many modern viewers. I love the graceful decorum and civility of the characters of the program and think that many of us miss and yearn for the virtues displayed - perhaps that is why the production is so beloved.


Reply 43 - Posted by: mabeldog, 2/3/2013 11:00:36 AM     (No. 9155707)

#9 Actually it´s an ITV production, not the Beeb


Reply 44 - Posted by: Arby, 2/3/2013 11:05:44 AM     (No. 9155714)

Nice piece. Informative and persuasive.


Reply 45 - Posted by: RancherJack, 2/3/2013 11:05:52 AM     (No. 9155715)

Not a fan.


Reply 46 - Posted by: starboard, 2/3/2013 11:14:42 AM     (No. 9155725)

Downton Abbey gives us a delightful glimpse into life from a past culture. This series is so well produced, when I watch it, I feel Scotty has beamed me up and become totally transported back in time. What a respite and a treat from the present state of affairs we now have.
Thank you Julian Fellowes. Five stars.


Reply 47 - Posted by: AutumnJoy, 2/3/2013 11:42:54 AM     (No. 9155763)

I love DA and have seen every episode. The rumor is that three characters die this season. Last Sunday´s death scene had me absolutely riveted to the tv. Even now I see that scene in slow motion in my mind. Heartbreaking.


Reply 48 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 2/3/2013 12:06:21 PM     (No. 9155803)

My wife and daughter love this show. I´m indifferent to it. I read the WSJ article yesterday and found it interesting that Fellowes is himself a Lord. The lord and lady of Downton Abbey are portrayed as a couple of twits, as is the dowager countess. They have no marketable skills, and aren´t smart enough to take care of their own affairs. They have valets, as they can´t seem to keep track of their own clothing or get dressed without help. The lord´s mismanagement of the estate and its money bring it nearly to ruin, saved only by other people´s money earned through hard work and careful investment. In the last episode, Lord Grantham´s intransigency led to the death of his youngest daughter. I have a feeling it will be the lord´s new son-in-law who ends up saving everyone´s bacon so they can continue with their meaningless lives, being waited on hand and foot.


Reply 49 - Posted by: absalom, 2/3/2013 12:35:34 PM     (No. 9155862)

#25. A strong demurral. The Great War caused the destruction of the English upper class and the British Empire. Britain, our major trading partner since 1783, became the wealthiest nation on earth because of trade. Sir Noel Coward´s Three Act Play ´Cavalcade´; from which the DA soap opera is derived; definitively explores this theme.


Reply 50 - Posted by: cgood, 2/3/2013 12:44:20 PM     (No. 9155874)

I just started watching this series last weekend and am hooked. I´m midway through the 2nd season (watched the first on Netflix and found the second on Amazon). I like the complexity of the characters and appreciate that the family members are not portrayed as one-dimensional, evil rich folks and the servants are not all virtuous poor people. Even the villains surprise you now and then with their humanity.


Reply 51 - Posted by: DanvilleBill, 2/3/2013 1:44:41 PM     (No. 9155953)

To quote Flounder, today is going to be GREAT!

1) The Super Bowl with the GREAT 49ers playing the pathetic Ravens.

2) The Super Bowl post game where the 49ers GREAT Jim Harbaugh accepts the Lombardi Trophy after trouncing brother John´s pathetic Ravens.

3) And later on, Downton Abbey, a GREAT TV production and possibly the GREATEST costume dama ever put on TV.

One other thought, if you like DA I suggest you get a copy of Follett´s "Fall of Giants" which is set in England over the same time frame with similar class-based themes, WWI action, etc. A GREAT read.


Reply 52 - Posted by: 4LadyK, 2/3/2013 1:49:56 PM     (No. 9155965)

Love the series for what it is: an engaging soap opera. And 39 gets it.


Reply 53 - Posted by: tnorling, 2/3/2013 2:25:47 PM     (No. 9156023)

Libs hate it because it doesn´t fit into their narrative. There are no victims needing state support.


Reply 54 - Posted by: Mike6, 2/3/2013 2:41:13 PM     (No. 9156046)

You are correct that Obama does not understand Americans freedom and democracy. He prefers to bypass Congress and bomb Libya and throw Mubarek and Ghaddafi under the bus, who were both dictators but American friends.
Low information voters do not understand that Obama hates America because he is a Kenyan marxist and probably a muslim. I bet that Barry Soetero was a naturalized American Citizen and Barack Obama does not exist legally except for a phony SS#, from 1891 that once belonged to a man now dead.
If Republicans were smart, they would be yelling this information about the bogus Obama SS# from every roof top loud and clear until every low information voter had heard it.


Reply 55 - Posted by: flaming sword, 2/3/2013 2:52:39 PM     (No. 9156059)

I love the show.Love it.

For those of you who don´t have Netflix like me, but are Amazon Prime members, do you know all episodes are available free?
I had been an Amazon Prime member for at least a year before I realized there were hundred if not thousands of free movies and TV shows available to me.
I renewed the second year because it paid for itself in free shipping within 3 or 4 months. Before I realized it had free video goodies.


Reply 56 - Posted by: flaming sword, 2/3/2013 2:57:30 PM     (No. 9156067)

I needed a comma there. I don´t have Netflix.

For those of you who don´t have Netflix, like me,


Reply 57 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 2/3/2013 3:12:31 PM     (No. 9156084)

My wife and I are hooked on Downton Abbey. We´re both history buffs and Anglophiles. While it´s true that the series probably treats the upstairs/downstairs divide as more genteel than it usually was, it´s nice to see a series such as this where the characters all have the feel and motives of real people, rather than caricatures.

One has to understand that the term "class" in English parlance did not refer to economic status, but to social status. One could be poor and yet still "upper class", as we´ve seen on Downton Abbey. One´s social standing was determined from birth and was almost totally fixed until the day you died. In America, we usually refer to the upper-class as the rich, but our classes are quite fluid compared to the English social classes. In fact, in America it´s more of a "gradient" than a system with sharply drawn lines between classes.

A few very rich merchants and captains of industry were able to buy their way into the English aristocracy in those days, but they were typically held apart from the "true" aristocracy of the blooded.


Reply 58 - Posted by: belwhatter, 2/3/2013 4:29:17 PM     (No. 9156183)

It is good to hear heartwarming affection for Downton Abbey and how it is portraying the march of change through the 20th century. The very fact that we have taken these characters to heart speaks of the skills of Fellowes´ writing, the director and the actors. Enormous attention is paid to detail. For those that decry it´s social statements,calm down, it is after all entertainment and in these dreary days of Obamanomics it is wonderful to be transported on Sunday evenings to another world and even so,to see the eternal situations of the human condition play out.


Reply 59 - Posted by: John318, 2/3/2013 5:22:11 PM     (No. 9156260)

Voyeurism reigns supreme in America. Get a life all those of you that are Hooked.


Reply 60 - Posted by: Pinons, 2/3/2013 6:30:07 PM     (No. 9156336)

#9, you don´t get it! All those thousand of "tiny" subsidies add up to BIG WASTE.

#60, I´m sure you are so straight laced?


Reply 61 - Posted by: flaming sword, 2/3/2013 6:40:25 PM     (No. 9156344)

I´ll bow to the superior intellect of #60.
Tonight I will watch BET, MTV and the Chicago news channel with their daily murder report.


Reply 62 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/3/2013 7:03:46 PM     (No. 9156369)

The BBC Masterpiece Theater series, and most other BBC special productions compared to the American entertainment industry can be described very succinctly: class versus crass.


Reply 63 - Posted by: seminolesecure, 2/3/2013 7:58:45 PM     (No. 9156407)

I love ths show and am hooked, but I do think Mr. Fellows has bowed to the criticism, as much as he claims not to have. The 2nd and 3rd seasons have creeping and annoying PC stuff, the characters are more shallow, i.e. the ones with the social standing have become charicatures. They were so much more likable and real in the first episode.


Reply 64 - Posted by: geminale, 2/3/2013 10:24:35 PM     (No. 9156623)

Love DA, or Dog´s Bum Abbey, as Dan Stevens calls it. Greatest period drama I´ve seen, and I´ve seen many. Thanks to l.com for this article.


Reply 65 - Posted by: cat2, 2/4/2013 12:32:35 AM     (No. 9156749)

Oh, just relax and enjoy the show. Follow the characters´ personal dramas and forget pondering the social justice messages. Almost all of theatuh and literature is trying to propagandize you. You outfox the authors if you ignore all of that and just keep your tissue box handy and view it as a soap opera.



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Posted By: FlyRight- 6/16/2013 7:30:27 AM     Post Reply
Ring-a-ding-ding! A spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin refuted New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft´s claims that the politician stole his Super Bowl ring in 2005, according to CNN. As previously reported by Page Six, Kraft discussed the ring theft at a Thursday awards gala. "I took out the ring and showed it to [Putin], and he put it on and he goes, ´I can kill someone with this ring,´" Kraft told the crowd at Carnegie Hall’s Medal of Excellence gala at the Waldorf-Astoria

Threats made to figures at center
of IRS controversy: sources
Reuters, by Patrick Temple-West and Karl Plume    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 6/16/2013 6:48:57 AM     Post Reply
A current and a former top tax official have been physically threatened in recent weeks as the scandal over Internal Revenue Service targeting of Tea Party and other conservative groups has gathered steam, people familiar with their situation say.Ousted IRS acting commissioner, Steven Miller, has received such threats, according to a source familiar with his situation. The source declined to elaborate on the nature or the source of the threats.

The Author of the New York Times
´Plane Crash´ Story on What He Got Wrong
Atlantic, by James Fallows    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 6/15/2013 1:31:05 PM     Post Reply
Last month, as part of its last-page "Lives" feature, The New York Times Magazine published an article by Noah Gallagher Shannon called "The Plane Was About to Crash. Now What?" It described the author´s experience on a 2011 flight whose track is shown above: It was headed to Denver from Washington´s National Airport, but turned back after 20 minutes of flying time and made an unscheduled landing in Philadelphia.

How did mainstream media get the
NSA PRISM story so hopelessly wrong?
ZDNet, by Ed Bott    Original Article
Posted By: FlyRight- 6/15/2013 1:26:37 PM     Post Reply
Last week, The Guardian and The Washington Post got their hands on a big story about the National Security Agency and its alleged connection to a handful of giant tech companies. The bombshell stories in both publications carried the by-lines of experienced reporters. The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald, a well-known political commentator who also holds a law degree, has been covering national security issues for nearly a decade, and the Post’s Barton Gellman is a Pulitzer Prize winner who has a distinguished record covering privacy and security issues.



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Edward Snowden Is In The
Process Of Destroying Any Support
And Sympathy He Has Built Up

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Business Insider, by Brett LoGiurato    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 6/18/2013 5:34:23 AM     Post Reply
Amid a steady rise of backlash, Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old former National Security Agency contractor who was the source of a spring of leaks about the agency´s surveillance methods, conducted a live chat on The Guardian´s website Monday morning. Judging from some of the pointed questions he´s been asked and the reaction to newly leaked revelations over the past few days, it´s clear that much of the sympathy and support Snowden had built up for his early exposures is eroding. Many Americans supported his decision to leak information about a pair of National Security Agency surveillance programs, which, he detailed, gathered information

Barbara Walters Defends Maher
Calling Trig Palin Retarded:
‘I Don´t Think He Intended
it to be Mean-Spirited’

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Newsbusters, by John Nolte    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/17/2013 5:19:02 PM     Post Reply
As NewsBusters reported last week, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin called out vulgarian comedian Bill Maher for referring to her Down Syndrome son Trig as "retarded." On ABC´s The View Monday, co-host Barbara Walters astonishingly defended Maher saying, "I don´t think he intended it to be mean-spirited" (video follows with transcript and commentary): WHOOPI GOLDBERG: At a recent standup show in Las Vegas, comedian Bill Maher apparently called Sarah Palin’s five-year-old developmentally-challenged son Trig retarded. And Sarah blasted him on Twitter as a bully. Is that, is it, is he a bully? Is he a bad, what is he?

Jeb Bush labels conservative
critics ‘the chirpers’

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Washington Post, by Aaron Blake    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/17/2013 1:22:30 PM     Post Reply
Jeb Bush says he’s not worried that his work toward comprehensive immigration reform and his ties to the GOP establishment will alienate conservatives and negatively impact a potential 2016 presidential campaign, referring to critics as “the chirpers.” “If I decide to run for office again, it will be based on what I believe, and it will be based on my record,” the former Florida governor said in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody. “And that record was one of solving problems completely from a conservative prospective.” Bush (R) pointed to his conservative

TWA Flight 800 investigators break silence
in new documentary, claim original
conclusion about cause of crash is wrong

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FOX News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: smcchk- 6/19/2013 12:41:02 AM     Post Reply
A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of Long Island 17 years ago. However, the six whistleblowers, all part of the original investigation team, stopped short of saying the plane was shot down. Flight 800, a Boeing 747, had just taken off from JFK airport with 230 people aboard on July 17, 1996 enroute to Paris when it exploded

Obama: You Can´t Fathom
´Complexities´ of Syria
Policy ´If You Haven´t Been
in Situation Room´

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 6/18/2013 5:30:04 PM     Post Reply
Charlie Rose last night asked President Obama his new Syria policy. The president first objected to it being called a new policy. "I´m not sure you can characterize this as a new policy. This is consistent with the policy that I´ve had throughout," he said. Obama then explained the goal is regional stability, and especially in Syria. "Really, what we´re trying to do is take sides against extremists of all sorts and in favor of people who are in favor of moderation, tolerance, representative government, and over the long-term, stability and prosperity for the people of Syria," said Obama.

The IRS Immigration Fraud Scandal
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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/18/2013 10:37:24 AM     Post Reply
Marco Rubio. Paul Ryan. The IRS. Illegal immigration. And fraud to the tune of billions.. Now there’s a combustible mix. Let’s start with the IRS, illegal immigration and fraud. We’ll come back in a minute to Senator Rubio and Congressman Ryan. For those who came in late, a year before the IRS scandals burst onto the scene in early May of 2013, an alert investigative reporter for WTHR-Indianapolis (Channel 13), Bob Segall by name, produced a stunning piece of journalism. Segall’s video report is found here and we will quote from his story for the basics.

Obama assassination bid fears -
aircraft carriers on standby off
Irish coast during G8 summit

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Belfast Telegraph [Ireland], by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: SoCalGal- 6/17/2013 11:39:01 PM     Post Reply
It is understood that a contingency plan is in place for the unlikely event that an attempt would be made on the President’s life. The Secret Service also have diplomatic immunity which will allow them to shoot to kill a would-be assassin without fear of prosecution. As part of the “evacuation route” plan, they would be able to spirit the President by chopper to one of the carriers where a jet is on standby to take him back to the United States.


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