SAN DIEGO ? Say what you want about Nancy Pelosi, she got one thing right about Obama’s Affordable Care Act: We had to pass the law to find out what’s it in it. Now that some have actually bitten into this Tootsie Roll Pop, they are discovering that its crunchy outside was more palatable than the chewy center. Even labor unions, still euphoric from their love affair with Obama, are starting to see some very disturbing writing on the wall. According to the Wall Street Journal, “Labor unions enthusiastically backed the Obama administration´s
Comments: I wonder if he has ever told the truth in his life.
Obama´s health care and policies will beget less employees. I noticed it at Walmart. Now self check out, long lines for a human checkout. Higher pay, but less employees receiving it. Higher prices by 25% since Obama started. Oh, it will be grand for those employed, but most won´t have a job.
If a law is passed passed based on lies and bribes, is it really legal. The members of Congress who voted had no time to read the proposed law and no idea what was in it. There have been numerous litigants basing their claim on what was IN the law, but what about the conditions under which it was passed. Each member of Congress takes an oath, and this law was passed with NO CONSIDERATION of their Constituentcy. Is this LEGAL? Just wondering.
My paycheck is smaller by about $60 a month due to recent increase in taxes. I did my taxes and I received about $5,200 less while paying over $2,600 more in taxes in 2012. I am paying $1,200+ more in gas costs. There is no overtime anymore.
My co-workers are losing their jobs left and right (big company and they have been laying off thousands since the democrats and obama came along. I still have 2 liberals in my office that think everything is great. One was not even fazed by the $20,000 a year healthcare tax for a family of 4. He refuses to believe it despite the numbers from the IRS itself...!
As another co-worker remarked "they will stop thinking that when they lose their jobs"
An article in the WSJ listed obama´s wish list even before he ran for office and so far the tax and spend fairy has been generous, not to mention Justice Roberts and the media. Even the Economist laid out his Agenda and no one. wanted to believe it. Now he s out to destroy the GOP so watch closely. We may have libs in power for years. Hill is a shoe in, welcome to socialist medicine and to those disbelievers, yes your insurance bill is going to be a big one so put that in your fairness file. And have fun finding a specialist when you need one.
There is an unnoticed aspect of Obamacare. Premiums paid for government insurance will be based on political considerations not real cost. It becomes an unregulated system of taxation which Congress need not vote on. This is the real evil. Leave it to liberals how to figure out how to deprive citizens of their liberty.
Look, EVERYONE knew they were lies from the start. The Democrats knew it. John Roberts knew it. All the MSM knew it. But not enough people did enough to stop it. And now, nobody cares enough to try to roll it back.
That´s how Democrats work. Get it in at all costs. Then count on wussy Republicans to stay too polite to fight to get rid of it. We are totally screwed.
Op´s comment: "I wonder if he has ever told the truth in his life." The answer is: his life (as he has told it it books) is fiction. What do you expect from an "autobiography" of someone who transmogrifies?
Look, ´everyone´ knows Zippy´s so called birth certificate is a fake. There is overwhelming corroborated evidence he gave up his US citizenship along the way and never bothered to reclaim it. He is less eligible to serve than a Tuareg camel herder in Mali. Where has that gotten us??
Congress voted on it without reading it, Scalia of the Supreme Court stated that forcing the court to read it was cruel and unusual punishment but they ruled on it anyway. Clearly the President didn´t read it but it is the law of the land. How stupid can you get? What could possibly go wrong?
We have no representation - our fearless leader Boehner has already conceded - it´s the law of the land (he actually said that) - there´s no one to stand up and fight for us because they all have their exemption.
And by the by, our again re-elected Congressman in Ct., Jim Himes, put out a pre-election commercial proudly telling his children that he read all of every bill before he voted for it. More fools Fairfield County Ct.!!!!!!!!!!!
Questions for the attorneys out there. If we are equal under the law, how can Obamacare be legal? It seems to me that all these exemptions that are being handed out could be challenged in court. Where in the Constitution does it give the government the authority to treat one group differently than the any other? Isn´t this the very definition of discrimination?
$20,000 a year premiums don´t matter because the Flukes of the country got their free birth control! What a deal! $20,000 a year for $108 worth of pills. Only useful idiot leftists could go for a deal like that. When that little factoid finally seeps into little leftist brains it will be time for Sandra Fluke to hire some armed security. Add her name to the likes of Quisling, Mudd and Lewinsky.
BTW, I just have to say that the couch in the home page photo today looks just like one of Mooch´s dresses.
In my heart I do not believe that America voted for this Chicago thug. I truly believe the election was stolen just like those in third-world countries. We´ve been hijacked; convince me otherwise if you can.
This socialized medicine plan was passed into law by Obma and democrats in the house and senate ,not one republican voted for it becayse none knew what was in the bill no one even today can explain all that is in it beauricrat commies wrote this disasterto force us into a socialised country . this nis only the g major begining.
If the last election was legitimate then the majority of this poor sick Republic str out of their collective minds. On the other hand, liberalism is a religion where people are incapable of processing facts and logic and everything is taken as a matter of pure faith. Unless something drastic happens . . . we´re doomed.
Short answer to your question, #2, NO. The law was forced through by an illegal president, by using coercion, bribery, illegal exemptions of favored groups, by a congress that did not properly consider it, by forcing the purchase of something and by illegally calling that forced purchase a tax. Laws, by definition, must be applied to all. The exemption of congress and various thug unions is highly illegal. The states finally see what damage this law will cause and are backing out of its application. When people start dying from this sham legislation, the real resistance will begin. It´s not about healthcare at all, it´s about control of the people and vote buying from the underclass, all illegal under our Constitution.
Remember the brokest/brokenest state in the country is Illinois, which has been blown to debt-ridden oblivion by the control of Chicago democrats. We tried to tell you not to send them to Washington! How do you like the Chicago Way = Pay-to-Play?
"Say what you want about Obama, he is not stupid."
I agree that he is not stupid. However, he has no schooling or other background in business and economics...and he has brought on very few close staffers who have a good background in that area. I think he truly believed what he was saying - nothing Machiavellian there - but didn´t have the background to ask the right questions to truly understand what was being proposed. The devil is in the details.
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I have a job and like most of us, my taxes have gone up along with the prices of food, fuel and just about everything else. I am also an adjunct professor and have been for about 10 years now. I used to teach 3 classes a year which was great - it gave me some much needed money since my raises were either non-existent or miniscule. I´ve just been informed that I get one class next year. They are cutting back on adjuncts.
Dittos #26. Just read on Drudge that Big Brother will get all our medical facts/numbers. This is going to cause more lying to our doctors, and consequently less appropriate care. But I still have faith that We The People will not stand for any of the messes the Bamster inflicts on us. People already are having their eyes opened, the hard way.
"I agree that he is not stupid. However, he has no schooling or other background in business and economics...and he has brought on very few close staffers who have a good background in that area. I think he truly believed what he was saying - nothing Machiavellian there - but didn´t have the background to ask the right questions to truly understand what was being proposed. The devil is in the details."
#31 -- You´re giving 0bama the benefit of the doubt. Stop it. 0bama is an ideologue and a mastermind. Ideologues care only about controlling people. They are not interested in asking the "right questions" to "truly understand" their proposals.
The wonderful thing about Illinois is that their roll of convicted governors is wholly bi-partisan. In terms of screwing the people, both parties have their rogues. As a former resident of the "Land of Lincoln", I understood "Pay to Play" was the state motto.
Equal Protection under the law - something I became aware of when SCOTUS decided for Bush in Florida - why was this not brought up in the arguments? And what was Roberts threatened with to make him change his vote? Was it something to do with an adopted child?
If our Supreme Court Chief Justice was blackmailed because of an illegal adoption and he chose to trash the country then we are in for many years of the worst trouble the USA has ever seen.
Why is the media so late to the game? Rush Limbaugh said that single-payer was the end game even before Obama was elected. Obama himself said that ultimately, single-payer was what he had in mind.
Don´t people take his word by now? He said he´d "fundamentally remake America" and he has. He said he´d put the coal companies out of business and he has. He said he wanted a "civilian police force" and although he hasn´t gotten that through yet, he is on his way to doing so.
As for Limbaugh always being right, by now people should realize that he is prescient and knows what he is talking about. The only thing he was wrong about, predicting how liberals will act at any given moment, was when he (and many of us) thought we´d win this election in a landslide.
Reading a Drudge story about the UK´s health care system this morning gave me chills: The gov´t is going to require a database of every patient´s BMI, prescriptions, cholesterol levels, drinking habits, waist measurements and other very personal medical information - REQUIRED BY LAW. It will destroy doctor-patient privilege and give the gov´t.
If you think that doesn´t appeal to Obama and his charming wife, think again. In fact, it wouldn´t surprise me to find it buried somewhere in ObamaCare. Ask Nancy. She´ll know.
This is the bait and switch. Obama and dems never wanted this to work in the first place. They will, according to them, HAVE to take over healthcare! Voila!! Single payer socialized medicine. This has been their plan all along.
You can´t keep your doctor and insurance if they both disappear. What will happen is you will have to pay for your government insurance and you can´t use it to see a good doctor. The good ones will go to an all cash business and the government doctors will be alumni of Third World U. When the Constitution was written, providing health care, education, retirement programs were not a function of government. Now its considered a right.
"If a law is passed passed based on lies and bribes, is it really legal."
The Supreme Court ruled it legal and specifically threw it back to the people to decide the issue at the polls. The people re-elected Obama. If you stayed home because Romney wasn´t Christian enough or conservative enough. .... Congratulations .... ObamaCare is the law of the land!
Unless and until "We The People" stand up and not only DEMAND action, but vote accordingly, we can kiss the constitution, the economy and the republic goodbye. The politicians could care less about polls. They are only interested in your vote, and they can count on the majority being mouth breathing, window licking idiots.
and they can count on the majority being mouth breathing, window licking idiots. Yep, 47 that is correct. We´ve made it much easier for an Alinsky-like Marxist takeover than Russia, Cuba, Vietnam, China, et al. They didn´t have to worry about Justin Bieber´s pimples or Britney´s cellulite problems and they wouldn´t have given a rip back then anyway. It´s going and it´s never coming back because waking up and pulling our heads out will make no difference even if it were possible.
Realistically, they are going to have to move to single payer (as I assume they always knew, Hillary certainly did) so that it isn´t based on employment and have a second tier plans available at high-end employers or privately.
If their hidden goal is single payer (it is certainly not the goal of the Insurance Company lobbyists who helped write this bill) payment would have to be at the Medicaid level. Many MDs and hospitals cannot survive on 100% Medicaid.
We would have to retool our medical system to a primitive Cuba-style system where MDs only have a few years of training. Or worse the UK´s NHS.
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