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Gabrielle Giffords’ husband
smacks down Wayne LaPierre

Washington Post, by Greg Sargent

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 1/30/2013 2:13:02 PM

Perhaps the most important moment so far in today’s Senate Judiciary hearing on guns came when astronaut Mark Kelly directly confronted NRA head Wayne LaPierre over the shooting of his wife, Gabrielle Giffords. Between that exchange and another one involving Senator Dick Durbin, LaPierre’s argument was completely unmasked for the sham that it is. During the hearing, LaPierre repeatedly voiced the talking point that there’s no need to expand the background check system because criminals don’t cooperate with background checks. Kelly responded: The Tuscon shooter was an admitted drug user. He was rejected from the U.S. Army

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As if someone planning to commit murder will dutifully follow all other laws right up to the point of when they pull the trigger.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: nimby, 1/30/2013 2:19:46 PM     (No. 9148850)

WaPO in all its infinite glory of pressitutes

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mjsp, 1/30/2013 2:26:26 PM     (No. 9148864)

It is shameful that her "husband" parades her around when it is obvious that she is NOT well.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: killerbee, 1/30/2013 2:27:35 PM     (No. 9148865)

These people are morons. Emotionalist morons.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 1/30/2013 2:27:58 PM     (No. 9148866)

Folks, I have been mulling this over since the Newtown tragedy, and now is as good as time as any to state my opinion.

We are gonna lose on the 2nd Admendment and gun control. It is in the cards. Everyday a new shooting is blasted across the MSM. There is a concerted effort amongst the left to ram this full speed, and they are winning. Just like Obamacare, and the last election, this is being played to the ignorant low info public like so much theater.

Gun crime is not on the rise, statistically it is actually lower, but the media are intentionally playing up every shooting that might have a heart-string tug angle.

Believe me, I do not like being negative, but I do not see how we can get a positive message out to the masses.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: halfnorsk, 1/30/2013 2:30:02 PM     (No. 9148871)

Rep. Giffords was shot with a semi-auto pistol, rather than one of the "assault weapons" on Sen. Di Fi´s naughty list. Sadly, Giffords is being exploited as a useful idiot.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: MattMusson, 1/30/2013 2:30:40 PM     (No. 9148874)

We are not going to lose on the 2nd amendment. It is going to turn out to be Obama´s Waterloo. His Bridge Too Far.

Democrat Senators are going to go down in flames in the Mid terms because of this issue.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: kampboyd, 1/30/2013 2:33:54 PM     (No. 9148884)

Just a related note that, in New York State, Andrew Cuomo´s approval rating dipped from 74% to 59% solely on the new gun legislation he rammed through.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/30/2013 2:36:10 PM     (No. 9148888)

Whats more preferable, having a more effective background check system that is more likely to keep firearms out of the hands of a few dangerous mentally ill people or taking away the 2nd Amendment rights of the entire population through a major firearms ban?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Okie 52, 1/30/2013 2:37:16 PM     (No. 9148891)

I watched the entire hearing (yes, glutton for punishment). There were no "gotcha" moments, nobody "smacked down" anyone. There were differences of philosophy and approaches, that´s it. Thanks, again, WaPo, for misreporting events.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: texaspast, 1/30/2013 2:38:34 PM     (No. 9148893)

Maybe New York is willing to give up on the 2nd amendment, but don´t judge the rest of the country by what you are seeing in NY. Flyover country is not giving it up.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/30/2013 2:39:36 PM     (No. 9148894)

Mark Kelly is a famewhore, and he is exploiting his wife - a woman who was actually ineligible to serve in congress for her ´home´
state, because she was a resident of Houston, Texas.
(I realize that is a minor point, but I thought it should be said.)

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Reply 12 - Posted by: nimby, 1/30/2013 2:41:30 PM     (No. 9148899)

The reality is that Gabby Giffords got a chunk of her brain destroyed in this shooting. Does she still have Executive functions to pass judgement on anything? or is she just reading whats been placed in front of her?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 1/30/2013 2:41:40 PM     (No. 9148900)

The anti-2nd Amendment crowd will pimp one victim (or family memeber) after another in a sickening, divisive exploitation.

And I´m surprised Mark Kelly had the smarts to be an astronaut. He is deliberately skating by the disgraceful mental health policies and lawsuits which shut down nearly all mental facilities in this country, allowing people who should have been involuntarily committed to roam free because it "feels good." Kelly may have had the right stuff, but no more.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: BeatleJeff, 1/30/2013 2:45:55 PM     (No. 9148907)

At this point what does it matter how or why she was shot. The nut job was going to do what he was going to do one way or another. It´s all in the past now. We need to move on. There are more important things to worry about, like the Super Bowl and the Kardashians. /sarcasm off

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Reply 15 - Posted by: QRP, 1/30/2013 2:52:41 PM     (No. 9148920)

I would hope that all law enforcement and other government workers would pass the expanded background checks before being allowed to carry any firearms in the course of their jobs.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Penney, 1/30/2013 2:55:01 PM     (No. 9148921)

Actually, it has become evident that the more the statist dems attack each of the Bill of Rights, the more law-breakers there seem to be coming out of the woodwork.

The remedies for preventing so many of the current crimes being perpatrated by mentally-ill individuals and/or by each criminal is to enforce EXISTING law and to re-examin the best way to address mental illness in this country! ...Duh!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Citizen Plain, 1/30/2013 2:55:24 PM     (No. 9148922)

The brainwashing is not working! The brainwashing is not working! Time to call chicom intel for new psyop!!!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 1/30/2013 2:57:03 PM     (No. 9148928)

Missus and I joined the NRA when in the Press Tirades after the Newtown SHOOTINGS.
WE REALIZED THAT THE NRA, AND 2ND AMMENDMENT WERE GOING TO COME UNDER SERIOUS ASSAULT.
Feel sorry for Ms Giffords, it was a shame what happened to her. The wackjob Loffner should have been in an institution, but the Liberals have weakened the Mental Health System to the point it virtually has no place to put the potentially, Violent Insane in a place where they can be watched and cared for.
It seems now that Ms. Giffords has become a tool of those Liberals with an anti-gun ( 2nd Amendment) agenda. She is lead around by her husband ( whose political aspirations are evident) like an organ grinders monkey. Darn Shame for her.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: CEP, 1/30/2013 3:06:32 PM     (No. 9148946)

Mark Kelly should be ashamed of himself. The way he is using his wife to further his political aspirations.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 1/30/2013 3:09:10 PM     (No. 9148951)

The background check system ALREADY demands that the information on those considered mentally incompetent be submitted to the NICS database. How about we just enforce the provisions of the current law??

"Universal Background check" is DemSpeak for Federal registration - their ´solution´ to a non-existant problem. Tyrants throughout history would agree- registration is what you need in order to conveniently take the next step - confiscation.

We are not losing on the 2nd Amendment. And there should be NO compromise. Not ONE inch.
Unless of course, you´d just like to roll over and submit. /Rant

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NavalAviatorRet, 1/30/2013 3:11:40 PM     (No. 9148954)

Lose on the 2nd Amendment?, What does that mean exactly? The right to keep and bear arms for protection from criminals, tyrants, etc, is inherent to our humanity via God Himself, not the Constitution. The 2nd amendment states that a government of men can´t infringe upon that God-given right. Anything less than a constitutional convention garnering the support of 2/3 of the states for modification, whatever the fools in DC come up wih is illegal and meaningless as far as I am concerned. I and millions like me have no intention of complying with whatever those decide to do. Additionally, the LE agencies in my part of the world have no intention of enforcing the nonsense from DC either.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Michaelus, 1/30/2013 3:13:15 PM     (No. 9148958)

So LaPierre said background checks do not work and Giffords got shot because a background check did not work - this is considered getting "smacked down"? Sounds like Kelly proved the point.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 1/30/2013 3:18:09 PM     (No. 9148968)

It has been known for centuries that it is nearly impossible to stop a determined assassin who has little regard for his own fate in the process. If the guy who shot Giffords didn´t have a 30 round magazine he could have easily been toting several 10 rounders. Perhaps he would have had to pause for a second to replace a magazine, but that´s it. Those around him would have been too panicked and surprised to do anything while he swapped out magazines. That only happens in movies. He was going to get to her, period.

Ban high capacity magazines and all you really do is create a black market for them at a higher price, you won´t eliminate them. If banning something through law made it go away, well we wouldn´t have any marijuna, lsd, heroine, cocaine, or even rape and murder, would we?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/30/2013 3:22:36 PM     (No. 9148978)

What happened to Gabrielle Giffords and those who were killed and injured at the same event is a terrible, unspeakable tragedy. But, it´s time for her husband to assist her off the stage. I thought the same thing about Jim and Sarah Brady. Their points were made, further PR is milking the awfulness to no purpose.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: farmwife, 1/30/2013 3:28:31 PM     (No. 9148992)

The headline says it all. ´Gabby Gifford´s husband´. Without her, nobody knows who he is. So he has to trot her out to give himself attention. Pathetic.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: lil dotty, 1/30/2013 3:30:37 PM     (No. 9148997)

Mark, take care of your wife and stop parading her on stage If you wish to use her to promote d´rat agenda, do it elsewhere. This country is aware of what happened. Sorry it happened but the gun was not responsible for your wife and her injury. It was a thing used by a demented person such as yourself. If the gun had done this to your wife, absolutely no one would walk out of a gun show alive.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: judy, 1/30/2013 3:32:30 PM     (No. 9149001)

The farrrrr left wing WP couldn´t handle the truth...

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Kowgirl, 1/30/2013 3:39:12 PM     (No. 9149014)

Giffords´ shooter was a mentally/emotionally unbalanced young male who was raised in a liberal democrat environment. Furthermore, his parents had refused to seek help from him after repeated warnings of his strange behavior from the local college he attended, as well as the Pima County Sheriff´s office.

Mark Kelly is a liar, and should be publicly ignored and shunned.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Polecat49, 1/30/2013 3:50:11 PM     (No. 9149032)

Supposedly the local sheriff knew all about the thug who did the shooting. THEN, WHY in the H-ll wasn´t there an arrest record? Oh, the guy was only a weirdo and needed time to straighten out.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mikeyt64, 1/30/2013 3:59:23 PM     (No. 9149057)

MORE LAW MORE LAWS MORE LAWS...until we have made the 2nd amendment nothing more than ink on paper. Thats when these festering pukes will be happy. Meanwhile each law creates more beurocracy causing more funidng more taxes...ahhahahahahahahhhhhhh

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Chief1942, 1/30/2013 3:59:37 PM     (No. 9149058)

Illegal guns obtained by the criminal element in our nation come through the same pipeline as do illegal drugs. Liberals who think that criminals or people intent on creating havoc will somehow expose themselves by going through legitimate sources for the guns are the customers of the illicit drug trade. They have to be to be so stupid.Studies done interviewing current inhabitants of the Federal prison system clearly show that criminals get their guns via the black market or steal them. Less than 2% even try getting them through legal private sales or at gun shows. But as has always been the case concerning "Utopian world" Liberals, you simply can´t fix stupid!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: woodsto sea, 1/30/2013 4:00:21 PM     (No. 9149060)

Tories in the blue state are uninformed concerning private sells. In the majority of state there is no registration. Whoes going to know if you sell your used property?

Will the Post report the noncomplience with NY´s new semi auto registration?

The Fed already doesn´t charge those who lie on the 4473 forms. Why because it cost to much. Do you really think they will pour money into stopping private sells where you can´t prove who owns the gun?

Go ahead make us outlaws.

Guns are easy sells. No one is going to sell one to someone who seems not quite right. It´s not worth it. Private sells are more self regulated than legal sells.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/30/2013 4:10:36 PM     (No. 9149084)

The ignorant WaPoo readers sure make irritating comments at the end. I don´t have the time to deal with them today, but every time I tried to counter them, it seems 5 more came out of the woodwork. They are a creepy bunch of fools. All they do is make personal attacks against gun owners.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Italiano, 1/30/2013 4:16:24 PM     (No. 9149098)

Mark Kelly is a bald Cindy Sheehan.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: vesicant, 1/30/2013 4:33:49 PM     (No. 9149146)

First of all, Kelly´s statement is an explicit admission that background checks don´t work because not all the crazies and criminals are in the database. Second, LaPierre´s claim that criminals won´t cooperate with background checks has nothing -- or very little -- to do with private sales. It means that criminals will get guns illegally no matter. Sure, some criminals probably get guns from otherwise legitimate private sales, but closing that "loophole" isn´t going to stop criminals from getting guns. Heck, they´ll probably resort to more burglaries. Thanks, lefties!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: gunnut13, 1/30/2013 4:43:53 PM     (No. 9149167)

Mark Kelly is so concerned about his wife´s health that he gave up piloting that last shuttle mission so he could stay with her and continue to see to her needs.
Oh wait, he did go on that mission. My bad.
He´s the type of officer (Adm Mullens was another and Gen Dempsey is another) the US military can do without. The type that is in it for their personal glory and won´t speak up for the troops and doing the right thing. Unfortunately there are far too many of that type in the active duty force now. That´s why we need the 2nd Amendment. The military is being slowly conditioned to accept the idea that their fellow American citizens are the enemy. (I had a discussion with some active duty co-workers just this AM and they confirmed that they´ve been formally asked "if they´d ever fire on their fellow citizens").


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Reply 37 - Posted by: Marzon, 1/30/2013 5:02:03 PM     (No. 9149194)

Note the repeated and subtle lie:

FTA "the loophole that allows guns to be sold without background checks at gun shows AND by private sellers." and "and end up getting their guns from private sellers OR gun shows" (emphasis mine).

The AND in first quite implies that you can get a gun without a background check from a dealer at a gun show. That is simply not true. Similarly the OR in the second quote implies the same lie.

You cannot legally buy a gun from a dealer at a gun show or anywhere else without a background check! What they want is to outlaw private sales but they don´t have the integrity to say so.

Excuse me if I am skeptical of any plans to limit my god given right to defend myself and my family put forth by people who are lying directly to my face about thier plans.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: jasmine, 1/30/2013 5:04:46 PM     (No. 9149198)

I see. NOW the problem is mental illness!

That´s not what we heard at the time, though.

Remember? Sheriff Clarence Dupnik rushed before the cameras and blamed Republican "vitriol" and images of a target in a Sarah Palin ad for the murders. That Jared Loughner was well known to authorities because of his ongoing bizarre behavior was of little interest to the left. Loughner lived in his own world, yet Democrats said he was acting out Republican hate.

Loughner´s nonsensical ramblings on the internet were minimized. Anti Second Amendment Democrats were determined to blame the murderous acts of an untreated paranoid schizophrenic on the Republican Party. They did not give a damn about mental illness at the time. Words and images from their opponents were blamed instead. It was a cheap and unscientific theory, yet the MSM gave Democrats a podium from which to launch POLITICAL attacks.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: chesapeakebayboy, 1/30/2013 5:07:23 PM     (No. 9149202)

What are to two major denomitors in all of the high victim shooting from the Texas college tower shooting until now?
1. Gun FREE zones.
2. Mental instability.


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Reply 40 - Posted by: Alice, 1/30/2013 5:10:52 PM     (No. 9149209)

I caught the exchange between Senator Cruz and Maryland police chief Jim Johnson during my lunch break.

Senator Cruz asked Chief Johnson to try to explain why gun-control cities like Baltimore have significantly higher gun homicide rates.

The chief, who is also the Chair of the National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence, replied that the difference is due to differences in health care! Clearly he thinks the doctors in Chicago and Baltimore cannot do as good a job with gunshot wounds as the doctors in Texas, or that the hospitals in his own city and Chicago cannot treat gunshot wounds as effectively.

Since his statement was accepted with no response or reaction, I wondered if I heard right. I´m afraid I did hear right, but am most willing to be corrected!


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Reply 41 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/30/2013 5:11:15 PM     (No. 9149210)

What a sham...and she wasn´t shot with an ´Assault Weapon´, she was shot by a nut case with a pistol.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: NYbob, 1/30/2013 5:11:57 PM     (No. 9149213)

I guess it´s too much to expect Wayne LaPierre to shove the fact that the local sheriff had more than enough evidence and warnings to bring in the shooter, but HE DID NOTHING. Same with the hundreds of Chicago gun murders, Dick. The democrats in that city simply DON´T prosecute criminals who use guns in crimes. It´s almost like the WP and Dick D. use the lax enforcement of thousands of gun laws to grab more power over citizens instead of doing something about criminals.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/30/2013 5:13:39 PM     (No. 9149217)

So, does Ms. Giffords still have that Glock she was so proud of? If so, it should be confiscated because she appears mentally incompetent to own an ASSAULT weapon. s/
GD hypocrits make me sick.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: kens, 1/30/2013 5:20:27 PM     (No. 9149232)

Frankly, am getting a little tired with this washed up spaceman.

It´s time to search his house and take any weapons that he may have. Why? Because he lives with a mentally impaired person.

He needs trigger locks at the least.


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Reply 45 - Posted by: Daylily, 1/30/2013 5:30:23 PM     (No. 9149248)

I believe the MSM has been ´instructed´ to play up and publicize every shooting that occurs and basically ignore other ways in which people are killed.

Also, I feel very sad when seeing Rep. Gifford used by her husband (who, for some reason, seems very creepy to me)and the current administration to further their own ambitions.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Riley, 1/30/2013 5:48:46 PM     (No. 9149275)

Two things jump out at me from this article.

1. They really have no idea how many guns there are in this country. They will never stop private sales, let alone generational transfers. Just ask yourself what people will do when the police arrive and ask for your grandfather´s hunting rifle. They sure won´t be turning them over quietly.

2. The media hypes crime while the rates drop and yet the wonder why more people want guns? They push fear and then expect us to give up our guns? They are losing this battle badly and they can´t understand it. 2014 should be an eye opener for some Dems.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/30/2013 6:24:16 PM     (No. 9149334)

Gabby may as well be a puppet with her husband´s hand in her backside. It´s shameful and abusive to drag her around for his agenda.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: lylacat, 1/30/2013 6:52:59 PM     (No. 9149370)

Yea, right. LaPierre suggests armed security at our schools. 0bama sends his girls to a private school that has many armed guards, with real guns, and real bullets. So why is this not a good idea for the rest of the children? Give me a break.

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Star Tribune [Minneapolis, MN], by Jackie Crosby    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/12/2014 9:53:07 AM     Post Reply
Women’s specialty clothing chain Coldwater Creek filed for bankruptcy on Friday and said it will close all of its stores around the country, including 11 in Minnesota. The Sandpoint, Idaho-based company plans to time its liquidation sales to coincide with the traditionally busy Mother’s Day weekend. Coldwater Creek is the latest retailer to seek protection from creditors as consumers continue to manage their household budgets tightly and hold back on discretionary spending. Others to file for bankruptcy include discount chain Loehmann’s, trendy retailer Dots and the plus-sized Ashley Stewart Holdings. Coldwater Creek announced plans to seek strategic alternatives in October,



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