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Topic: Exclusive: Boy Scouts close to ending ban on gay members, leaders |
Exclusive: Boy Scouts close to ending ban on gay members, leaders
NBC News, by Pete Williams
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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/28/2013 2:19:25 PM
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| The Boy Scouts of America, one of the nation’s largest private youth organizations, is actively considering an end to its decades-long policy of banning gay scouts or scout leaders, according to scouting officials and outsiders familiar with internal discussions. If adopted by the organization’s board of directors, it would represent a profound change on an issue that has been highly controversial -- one that even went to the US Supreme Court. The new policy, now under discussion, would eliminate the ban from the national organization’s rules, leaving local sponsoring organizations free to decide
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Comments: Wonderful! Will Nambla members now be allowed to join? Heavy s/o I weep for the innocence of our children and our country.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
beth, 1/28/2013 2:23:48 PM (No. 9144580)
Decent parents will keep their kids out of the boy scouts.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
viking diver, 1/28/2013 2:34:36 PM (No. 9144613)
time to start a new organization if this is true. sorry I will not send my child into the lions den
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Coy860, 1/28/2013 2:34:40 PM (No. 9144614)
Doesn´t the Oath state that they are to be morally straight? Nothing is sacred anymore..nothing.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
pinger, 1/28/2013 2:43:19 PM (No. 9144631)
Yet, another domino of America´s past greatness bites the dust. Well done, Lefties; you´ve almost got our country on its knees.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
submariner, 1/28/2013 2:44:39 PM (No. 9144632)
#3, American Heritage Girls was chartered as a result of the sell out of the Girl Scouts to feminism and the Left. I couldn´t believe this headline. I am our Troop´s Committee Chair and have been involved in the BSA since the ´50s - I hope this isn´t so.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Whamdbambam, 1/28/2013 2:46:08 PM (No. 9144635)
If this is true (NBC, eh) and it does happen, I´ll be returning my Eagle badge.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Happy Trails, 1/28/2013 2:51:13 PM (No. 9144643)
This will be the end of the scouts, once they allow the boys to be seduced by their leaders, but a good idea according to Barry "Buttafucco´" Obama!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Bobn.T, 1/28/2013 2:56:11 PM (No. 9144651)
#2 has it correct.
If that´s true, I´ll never contribute to them again.
Gay Scouts of America.
Put this nonsense squarely on the shoulders of the court system and the libnuts.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Bobn.T, 1/28/2013 2:57:11 PM (No. 9144653)
This nation is in a death spiral.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
kctiger, 1/28/2013 2:57:55 PM (No. 9144654)
Did you know????
Of the 27 men to travel to the moon on the Apollo 9 through Apollo 17 missions, 24 were Scouts, including 11 of the 12 men who physically walked on the moon´s surface, and all three members of the crew of Apollo 13.
So, let´s destroy yet another successful leadership institution.
And we wonder why the country is failing?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
tocsin, 1/28/2013 2:58:36 PM (No. 9144657)
Come on. It´s Petey Williams,a gay member of NBC(we make up the news)News
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
curious1, 1/28/2013 3:00:37 PM (No. 9144664)
#10, that´s because our ancestors last century didn´t hang these libtards/progtards ( ot put them up against a wall, after a fair 5 min trial, of course) when they self-identified in the government and media. When you allow rotten apples to remain in the barrel ALL the remaining good apples are at risk.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
trapper, 1/28/2013 3:08:15 PM (No. 9144683)
And that will be the end of the Boy Scouts. Everyone with any common sense knows that homosexuals are not born that way. They are taught it. Gay leaders? Most straight parents wouldn´t let their sons within a mile of that new Boy Scouts, because they know what it will be: just another group promoting the gay lifestyle and the gay agenda and forcing them upon their children. Their only choice with schools it to pull their kids out and either home school or send them to private schools. But scouting is purely voluntary.
No surprise here. The professed aims of the gay agenda, like so many other groups, are not really what they are pursuing anyway. Their goal is the destruction of America and Christianity via internal rot. Scouting represents both, so they go after it with a vengeance.
And to anticipate the objection to the above, I always find it interesting that those who claim homosexuality is hereditay refuse to consider the possiblity that stupidity and laziness are too.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
TXknitter, 1/28/2013 3:11:45 PM (No. 9144689)
This scouting family won´t freak out until this "NBC" scoop is verified but there may be some truth to it if they wrote the article. I would expect BSA to be out there with a strong denial statement today if this is utterly untrue.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
bobgray2, 1/28/2013 3:14:58 PM (No. 9144694)
It seems the Catholic Church made the same kind of decision a few decades ago and that hasn´t seemed to work out so well.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Gretchen, 1/28/2013 3:16:01 PM (No. 9144696)
You have heard the pedophile phrase, "After eight, it´s too late."
Also, while homosexuals are anywhere from 3-10 percent of the population, they are 30 percent of the pedophiles.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Bloviate, 1/28/2013 3:17:46 PM (No. 9144700)
Our Troop has become very liberal in the past year. I wouldn´t be surprised if they allowed gays into the Troop even if the BSA rejects this option. My son will son be 18 next year, and will soon have his Eagle Rank in the next month or two. We will be done with the Troop very soon.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
jerseyden, 1/28/2013 3:19:56 PM (No. 9144702)
All I can think of is all the Jerry Sandusky wanna be;s licking their chops over this. You would think anyone with any dignity or morals would be against this.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
geoguy, 1/28/2013 3:22:59 PM (No. 9144704)
I wrote to the scouts letting them I don´t support the idea.
I´m a former assistant scoutmaster, eagle scout, and volunteer.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Charactercounts, 1/28/2013 3:27:16 PM (No. 9144713)
#6, maybe it´s time for American Heritage Boys to get started.
This change by the BSA is disappointing, but not surprising. Even though they won their case in court, they can´t stand up to the court of liberal-left´s public opinion.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
woodsto sea, 1/28/2013 3:28:00 PM (No. 9144714)
The problem with BSA is they allowed those who don´t agree with BSA policies/traditions to become National Board Members. These people lack a sense of personal honor. If they don´t agree with the Boy Scout Oath they never should of agreed to become Board Members. Of course the problem goes deeper. WHO recommmended these people for the Board?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
reilly, 1/28/2013 3:30:36 PM (No. 9144717)
Another fairy tail ending.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Ret.TxLeo, 1/28/2013 3:30:58 PM (No. 9144718)
I know what the rank Eagle Scout means and what an incredible accomplishment it is. This past year there were 3 or 4 "Eagle Scouts" that protested the BSA not allowing gay scout and gay scout leaders by returning their awards. I wonder if the "leadership" in BSA would listen if the other hundreds if not thousands of Eagle Scouts over the past 50 years decided to let the BSA know that they say NO!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
RightShoe, 1/28/2013 3:34:26 PM (No. 9144726)
It would be better to simply disband the organization. The only purpose in modifying the ban is to allow the liberal establishment to get control of the BSA assets.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
mamafrog, 1/28/2013 3:35:14 PM (No. 9144730)
The times are changing, this is acceptable in some parts of the country and not in others. Apparently the scouts are going to let local organizations make the decisions on whether or not gay men can be leaders.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
AGGW, 1/28/2013 3:51:50 PM (No. 9144761)
Former cub leader, volunteer, and Eagle Scout parent here. This is so sad. The losers have begun to outnumber those of us with morals and character.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
mickturn, 1/28/2013 3:52:20 PM (No. 9144763)
Thanks for the warning...wait for it...wait for a pervert to molest someone´s son...payback are seldom nice.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Janjan, 1/28/2013 3:56:01 PM (No. 9144768)
Another American institution caves in to liberal cultural rot. This Country is not what it once was and never will be again. Thank an Obama voter.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Dante, 1/28/2013 4:00:41 PM (No. 9144779)
If the organization were a stock, you would short it. They will be out of existence in a few short years.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Muguy, 1/28/2013 4:23:23 PM (No. 9144817)
Oh, Happy Day!
When the threat of litigation wiped all my sins away!
We are literally seeing the destruction of our society, the rule of law, and the Constitution on a daily basis.
What the libs cannot get changed through the people, they are using the courts and the threat of lawsuits to overturn our socieity.
The girl scouts have succumbed, and finally the Boy Scouts are being taken down--
This is too strong for sarcasm....
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
tomanderson61, 1/28/2013 4:26:16 PM (No. 9144827)
Someone answer this question. Is a hetero male allowed to be a girl scout leader, including showering with the girls, sharing tents? Being naked around them?
Please explain to me whey that is not allowed. Perhaps Mitt Romney and anyone else caving into the Gay Agenda can explain that one to me.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
leopardtwo, 1/28/2013 4:38:48 PM (No. 9144850)
The´Sandusky Scouts´?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
ronbet, 1/28/2013 4:45:30 PM (No. 9144871)
The author of this article, NBC´s Pete Williams is homosexual.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Ruhn, 1/28/2013 4:45:47 PM (No. 9144873)
If true, the BSA will implode in short order. Too many concerned parents will pull their sons out of the organization.
Way to go, homosexual activists. The Frankfurt School would be proud.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
franq, 1/28/2013 4:49:32 PM (No. 9144883)
Too sad. The Scouts are done. PC has triumphed. Hate to see what the new Manual looks like. And Merit Badges? Ooooh...
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
tusker, 1/28/2013 4:56:31 PM (No. 9144909)
The new Boy Scouts of America: The go-to recruiting arm of a sexually depraved and perverted universe:
Boy Sodomites of America.
Their slogan:
"There´s noting gay about us."
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Pinchem, 1/28/2013 5:05:08 PM (No. 9144926)
Due to a lack of proof beyond any reasonable doubt I make no judgements one way or the other. I prefer FACTS before running my mouth.
Does anyone have Documented Medical Proof that people (male or female) are or are not born Homosexuals?
I have seen one medical article saying they are not born that way and two medical articles that say they are in fact born that way.
So are we dealing in TRUTH and FACT or just hate mongering ignorance? If we can demand the truth and facts from the Administration and the Media, then why can´t we demand the truth and facts in this forum?
Just curious.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
KanCreeper, 1/28/2013 5:11:17 PM (No. 9144941)
As a former Boy Scout...This is just too sad for words. American Society under attack.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
athina, 1/28/2013 5:12:06 PM (No. 9144944)
Way to go, BSA, to let individual units be barraged and bamboozled and harrassed to let homosexual scout leaders in. Way to lead, guys. If the parent organization can´t withstand the pressure, how do you expect local units to withstand the pressure. How demoralizing.
When this happens, we will dis-associate with the BSA. What a terrible shame.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
vesicant, 1/28/2013 5:18:17 PM (No. 9144951)
They´re gonna have to start merit badges in medieval ironworking for the chastity belts.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
loyalreader, 1/28/2013 5:30:18 PM (No. 9144976)
If true - it will be the end of the BSA.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
artman1746, 1/28/2013 5:51:53 PM (No. 9145023)
When will we learn that liberalism is a cancer that destroys any and everything it touches. It rots everything from the inside out. And it is content to destroy the BSA if it cannot take it over. Liberalism cares nothing for any "good" that might come from it. If it cannot be conquered then it must be destroyed.
The Democrat Party is Satan´s church and modern liberalism is its religious doctrine. Until we accept that we cannot engage in the war. It´s why they hate Christianity so much. Liberals declared war against decency and the country a long time ago.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
voxpopuli, 1/28/2013 6:03:10 PM (No. 9145034)
it´ll be like the Baseball Hall of Fame.. before and AFTER steroids..
in this case those joining AFTER will be designated with an *
see if anyone gets this...
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
nevernaught, 1/28/2013 6:24:06 PM (No. 9145060)
No more Girl Scout cookies and the Boy Scouts better watch their cookies.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
preciosodrogas, 1/28/2013 6:31:47 PM (No. 9145068)
Well, #39, to each his own, but it is a moral issue given the Boy Scouts is a moral based organization. Homosexuality is not moral and it does present a possible danger to children. I don´t think it is ignorant or hateful to be prudent. It also seems prudent rather than hateful to exercise the utmost caution since it is an unsettled matter. I find it a reverse order to say take the risk until proven otherwise. Re: #45, that´s disgusting and fairly obvious.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
cartcart, 1/28/2013 6:37:17 PM (No. 9145071)
I think the LDS church is one of their biggest sponsors but this may change things. To be a scout leader in an LDS troop it may be a higher standard.
I will not be a friend of scouting donor if this is true.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
bighambone, 1/28/2013 6:38:45 PM (No. 9145074)
Looks like they are beginning to lead off from where the Catholic Church left off. Maybe the Boy Scouts should consult with the elders of that church to see how they ended up once they allowed homosexual pedophile priests free reign over children?
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
lavalette, 1/28/2013 6:40:48 PM (No. 9145076)
Anyone notice any similarities between the leaders of the Boy Scouts, the leaders of our military, the leaders of our corporations the leaders of the Republican Party and the leaders of the Church? Can you say squish?
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
provide, 1/28/2013 6:42:29 PM (No. 9145080)
Sounds to me that there will some troops with out anyone in it. There will also be some parents exacting street justice.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Dreemaun, 1/28/2013 6:51:59 PM (No. 9145096)
This is very sad if true. Two of my sons are Eagle Scouts and my youngest is very close. #48 It is true that the LDS church is one of the biggest sponsors of the BSA. We use it for the boys in our youth program. I have heard it said that if the BSA ever gave into the gays demands that the Church will drop it and come up with something else instead. It would all be downhill from there for the BSA.
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
yorkiemom, 1/28/2013 7:12:14 PM (No. 9145122)
Let´s face it. The liberals are supposed to be half the size of the conservatives, yet they seem to win at everything eventually.
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
SouthSanAntonio, 1/28/2013 7:18:44 PM (No. 9145135)
Hopefully this is just another example of lie-berals telling lies to many times in hopes of them becoming true...
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
Ret.TxLeo, 1/28/2013 7:47:05 PM (No. 9145174)
The past 4 years the major donors to the BSA have been pressured by the obama administration to let them (gay scouts and gay leaders) in. The BSA said no, the corporate donations have dried up. It the Chicago Way, it´s the Progressive Way.
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
zoidberg, 1/28/2013 7:49:53 PM (No. 9145180)
Will there be a merit badge in choreography?
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
Howard Adams, 1/28/2013 8:50:48 PM (No. 9145257)
#21, yes.
My first thought was to which youth organization do the sponsoring churches, civic groups, etc., migrate their BSA charters? American Heritage Scouts is a good name.
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Reply 56 - Posted by:
tgoggin, 1/28/2013 8:57:55 PM (No. 9145271)
eagle here, local board member, raised tens of thousands for bsa, resigned, been trending liberal for years, they want broad tent, have 3 boys, none in scouts, 100 years, its over, put a fork in them.
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Reply 57 - Posted by:
bob913, 1/28/2013 10:33:11 PM (No. 9145376)
Every American institution is under attack. It is bribery that is convincing the corrupt leaders.
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Reply 58 - Posted by:
ColonialAmerican1623, 1/28/2013 10:58:48 PM (No. 9145398)
With enough pressure, every American tradition and institution will roll over under this admin. Laws mean nothing, the Constitution means nothing, Congress means nothing; only the magic EO is in charge.
It´s bad enough when notable Americans make a statement, then a few days later they apologize.
Man up will you ?
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Reply 59 - Posted by:
tonx, 1/29/2013 1:33:19 AM (No. 9145526)
Working in an architectural firm who did design and research for a popular gay bathhouse, I realized that I was charmingly naïve about what, I was repeatedly assured, was mainstream homosexual living. If scout leaders are in a position to influence young minds then we need to educate ourselves about how different interpretations of overt sexuality, monogamy and promiscuity within alternative lifestyle communities mesh with established value systems. I recognize the right of private, tax-exempt organizations to limit voluntary membership to a prescribed set of requirements. Arguing this point can be a two-way street, as anyone can subjectively claim discrimination in private groups i.e. a not-for-profit Florida gay softball league seeking to ban “bi” or “fake” homosexual “ringers” from competition. Ultimately, if we force coherence to shifting social morays on any organized group, are we infringing on their right to assemble? One could so fundamentally change the dynamic of a private society as to render it meaningless (what constitutes a “boy” for example).
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Reply 60 - Posted by:
marthaville, 1/29/2013 1:37:55 AM (No. 9145529)
Fortunately parents don´t have to allow their sons to participate in Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. No person in their right mind would allow their son so go on an overnight scout trip with a homosexual man. Sorry if you are offended. You wouldn´t allow your daughter to go on an overnight scout trip with a man.
Sadly, this is the end of Boy Scouts.
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Reply 61 - Posted by:
Hermoine, 1/29/2013 8:10:08 AM (No. 9145789)
This truly saddens me. . .and it´s the just beginning. . .homosexuality has become a tenet of the Left´s religion and it is literally being forced upon the entire country.
Our young boys are literally being recruited into a culture of despair and death. Most of the homosexual men I know, while they are "nice" to me, it is evident that they are unhappy and miserable. They also take pettiness, vanity and catty-ness to a level that no woman could possibly take it to.
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Reply 62 - Posted by:
Wetlandz, 1/29/2013 9:59:52 AM (No. 9146130)
Folks this is no time to think of giving in to this tyranny or dream of creating anything equal to our wonderful Boy Scouts. The lefts aim is to destroy religion and indocrinate kids. They haven´t won, dont allow these leftist freaks to win by rolling over, while we still parent our kids we are in control. we must keep these undesirables away from our kids, grand kids start by, leveling accusations & threaten to send the local news on their reputations and make their lives pure hell so they go start a gay scouts cult which they should´ve done if their motives were pure.
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Likening religious schools to segregation--a racist system that forced blacks to attend different schools and use different facilities than whites in the American South--President Barack Obama told a town hall meeting for youth in Belfast, Northern Ireland on Monday that there should not be Catholic and Protestant schools because such schools cause division. "Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity--symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others--these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it,"
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G8: Barack Obama looks like a president going through the motions
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Telegraph [UK], by Alex Spillius
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Posted By: JoniTx- 6/19/2013 4:58:06 AM
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Listening to Barack Obama give his speech in Belfast on Monday, it was hard not to stifle a yawn. I kept waiting for the part when he would say something interesting, but, about three quarters of the way through, realised it wasn’t going to come. Judging from television pictures some of his young audience felt the same, after the initial rush of euphoria of receiving the rock star president in their midst had passed. This is not surprising, for we had already heard this number about the inspirational role of the Northern Ireland peace process and the Emerald Isle’s
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Obama: You Can´t Fathom ´Complexities´ of Syria Policy ´If You Haven´t Been in Situation Room´
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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 6/18/2013 5:30:04 PM
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Charlie Rose last night asked President Obama his new Syria policy. The president first objected to it being called a new policy. "I´m not sure you can characterize this as a new policy. This is consistent with the policy that I´ve had throughout," he said. Obama then explained the goal is regional stability, and especially in Syria. "Really, what we´re trying to do is take sides against extremists of all sorts and in favor of people who are in favor of moderation, tolerance, representative government, and over the long-term, stability and prosperity for the people of Syria," said Obama.
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The IRS Immigration Fraud Scandal
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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord
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Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/18/2013 10:37:24 AM
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Marco Rubio. Paul Ryan. The IRS. Illegal immigration. And fraud to the tune of billions.. Now there’s a combustible mix. Let’s start with the IRS, illegal immigration and fraud. We’ll come back in a minute to Senator Rubio and Congressman Ryan. For those who came in late, a year before the IRS scandals burst onto the scene in early May of 2013, an alert investigative reporter for WTHR-Indianapolis (Channel 13), Bob Segall by name, produced a stunning piece of journalism. Segall’s video report is found here and we will quote from his story for the basics.
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