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Obama: Gun-Control Advocates
Have to Listen More

Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 1/27/2013 9:54:54 AM

Washington -President Barack Obama says gun-control advocates should be better listeners in the debate over firearms in America. In an interview with The New Republic, Obama says he has "a profound respect" for the tradition of hunting that dates back for generations. "And I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake. Part of being able to move this forward is understanding the reality of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas," he says. (Snip) The president says it´s understandable that people are protective of their family traditions

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 1/27/2013 9:58:26 AM     (No. 9142068)

This whole Constitution thing is SUCH a bother...

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 1/27/2013 10:00:32 AM     (No. 9142073)

I think gun grabbers need to think more and use emotional reactions less. They need to re-examine their policies which have made gun free cities some of the most dangerous out there...like Barry´s adopted home town of Chicago.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 1/27/2013 10:14:14 AM     (No. 9142104)

That´s rich coming from someone who never listens to anyone but himself.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jeffreyabigail, 1/27/2013 10:15:37 AM     (No. 9142105)

What a complete doofus. Even the most ardent "gun grabbers" have never said they want to ban hunting rifles.

So this is how exterme this guy is. There is was a point in his life that he even wanted to ban hunting, but finally understands that it is part of the life of rural America.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: panther361, 1/27/2013 10:15:45 AM     (No. 9142106)

Here we go with revising historical facts once again. Hunting has been a matter of survival as well as a right of passage since the dawn of man, not just a few generations. His heinous wishes to make shooting look like a short lived fad that should soon pass.
I really don´t like this guy at all.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: trappedinmn, 1/27/2013 10:17:26 AM     (No. 9142108)

AP, obama, gc advocates- listen c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y: I´ts not about hunting! It´s about protection from a-hats like you who are all about controll. 2nd amendment is to protect us from the tyranny you push on us daily. A side benefit is for protection from criminals- you know, the bad guys you continually neglect.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/27/2013 10:18:45 AM     (No. 9142114)

Once again this Communist is thrilled to let you hunt possum with grandpa´s shotgun.

The "Tyrant Hunting Season" is not always scheduled well in advance or easy to prepare for.

Sic Semper

The Constitution has been amended many times.

Those who have sworn to defend it must either work within it or amend it.

Ignoring it is not on the menu.

These people break the rules as though they were never going to be the minority party again.

Do they know something ???

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Keekng, 1/27/2013 10:22:10 AM     (No. 9142120)

Bam Bam tries to spin thehis gun control issue as al about hunting and tradition. Pure hogwash.
Gun rights are all about the Constitution of the United States of America and our right to bear arms.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: ruready?, 1/27/2013 10:23:01 AM     (No. 9142123)

Obama is the one that needs to listen up. It´s not about hunting.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: chumley, 1/27/2013 10:23:43 AM     (No. 9142126)

Dont buy it. He is lying again. His goal is and always has been complete civilian disarmament.
Never mind what he says, look at what he has done and is doing.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Mazeman, 1/27/2013 10:24:30 AM     (No. 9142129)

"A well outfitted hunting party, being necessary for the sustenance of growing populace, the right of the people to keep non-threatening firearms shall be appropriately regulated"

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 1/27/2013 10:25:36 AM     (No. 9142134)

Hunting?

You lying twerp. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It´s all about our being able to protect ourselves from would-be tyrants like you.

These leftists really think they can fool us - - but it´s always them who are the dopes.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: DaddyO, 1/27/2013 10:26:43 AM     (No. 9142137)

Translation: we´ll let you bitter clingers keep your single shot shotguns, but we´re going after everything else.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: southernboy, 1/27/2013 10:28:24 AM     (No. 9142141)

Just shut up and listen!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: PageTurner, 1/27/2013 10:34:04 AM     (No. 9142157)

Memo to Obama: This isn´t about hunting. It´s about self-defense. And Sandy Hook wasn´t in an urban area, it was in the leafy suburbs, and the gun-owner mom was a country-hunter type from New Hampshire. One teacher with a pistol could have stopped that mentally ill maggot with a pop.

Right off the bat, Obama demonstrates he has no intention of listening even as he talks of listening. I think he´s getting it from Clinton, who took a drubbing in his midterm elections over an assault rifle ban. I hope it means he´s worried about 2014.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: The Other Guy, 1/27/2013 10:34:48 AM     (No. 9142159)

Guns obviously have a variety of legitimate uses, self protection and hunting among them. All of the pro gun arguments that center on those uses, however, are of secondary importance because the constitution´s authors made no mention of them. Their only rationale was that citizens right to arms was to afford protection from a tyrannical government. When we rely on hunting, self defense, etc, that only leads to arguments about what is a reasonable magazine capacity, a reasonable rate of fire, a less scary appearance, etc. Emphasizing the core constitutional rationale makes those arguments moot.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Msctex1, 1/27/2013 10:36:11 AM     (No. 9142163)

It´s less the listening than the watching, Barry. People are watching what you do, and have learned to ignore what you say.

Of COURSE he would rather we merely listen. Actions can´t lie.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Silly Old Me, 1/27/2013 10:45:08 AM     (No. 9142183)

Pssst, Mr Prezzy. The 2nd Amendment is about hunting tyrants, not deer. Quitcher lyin.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 1/27/2013 10:46:23 AM     (No. 9142186)

Boff yourself, Zippy...

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Laureen1, 1/27/2013 10:46:36 AM     (No. 9142187)

Yeah - Obama is the leading authority on why gun owners own guns - tradition and hunting. Of course, all he is trying to do is begin "new" traditions inside America.

These people really do believe their own insanity. 1st they tell us that we are being paranoid and that nobody wants to take our guns. Next up - gun control legislation - yeah real unreal fears!

They told us during the Odumbocare debacle that there were no death panels (which we all knew there were) - and today they are just boldly putting the ´known´ truth out that if you don´t abide by their standards of "clean living" you will be left to die - probably won´t even give you a pain pill.

Of course, abortion is considered a very healthy lifestyle and will probably be rewarded.

I am so sick of that POS DICTATING to us day in and day out - WHERE IS OUR REPRESENTATION? Are we seriously going to have to take to the streets because I don´t see anyone on the Hill with the cajones to stop this.

Also, I am getting tired of republicans who I think are on our side slowly bending over. Saw a picture of Pete King from NY snapping a photo of JayZ and B at the Inauguaration. I understand the "star" factor and that he may have been taking the pic for a family member, but when I see something like that I begin to feel they are all in on it together to some degree. Big deal an ex-crack dealer and a lip syncher - maybe you could be investigating Obama´s tyranny in your spare time.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 1/27/2013 10:47:15 AM     (No. 9142189)

It is not about hunting. It is about the Constitution and the right to bear arms. Trying to reframe the debate to make it about hunting is either stupid or dishonest. It is often hard to tell with Obama which is the case.

When one views the gun control debate from the perspective of hunting, it is immediately obvious that semi-automatic weapons are superfluous and are therefore logically and easily outlawed. The same applies to many other firearms and accessories.

Does Obama know what he is doing? I have no idea. Sometimes he seems so completely clueless about the Constitution, American politics, the nature of representative government etc. that one wonders if he skipped the basic classes in school. Yet other times he comes across as manipulative, cunning and sinister. Perhaps it does not matter which is the case, so long as we do not fall for his rap.

The controversy over government control of firearms has nothing whatever to do with the tradition of hunting. It is about the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, and the relation of the citizens to their government.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Griz70, 1/27/2013 10:50:53 AM     (No. 9142201)

POS.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Rob_NC, 1/27/2013 10:58:43 AM     (No. 9142215)

..now 245 are dead in Brazil....stupidity is rampet...still no discussion of the cause..Mental Health and common sense.....stupidity is the grim reaper´s best friend.....guns aren`t the problem man is....

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Reply 24 - Posted by: sikupnfed, 1/27/2013 11:07:25 AM     (No. 9142238)

We´re listening alright. And here´s our reply: Don´t tread on us!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: grounded, 1/27/2013 11:25:12 AM     (No. 9142269)

FTA: "...the reality of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas".

In urban areas you need the appropriate gun to shoot two-legged varmints and in rural reas you need the appropriate gun to shoot four-legged varmints. If you travel a lot between the two venues, it´s probably best to have a variety of firearms.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 1/27/2013 11:44:30 AM     (No. 9142306)

Listening to this man is getting harder to do each day. There is only so much lying I can stomach, especially when the lying is so obvious.

Those were not gun fatalities #23. They sadly died in a nightclub from a fire. Please don´t use them to cloud a very hot button issue.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: strike3, 1/27/2013 11:56:38 AM     (No. 9142326)

I´ll finish his thought for him: "...so the people shouldn´t mind if we take away all of the guns that hold magazines and those that are les than four feet long because they don´t use those to hunt with anyway."

If these gun grabbing nazis would use simple statistics to make their case, they would just make it illegal for all black males under the age of 30 to own any kind of gun. That would make the biggest dent in the murder rate.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: wepeople, 1/27/2013 12:11:57 PM     (No. 9142342)

The Kenyan, Barry, from Indonesia, just doesn´t get it nor ever will.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: partoftheproblem, 1/27/2013 12:16:21 PM     (No. 9142349)

Obummer carefully put space between his royal self and the "gun grabbers" chided them for not listening and then said we need to talk more over the next 6 months.

I smell flopsweat.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: MsSmith, 1/27/2013 12:26:03 PM     (No. 9142363)

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed


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Reply 31 - Posted by: busterman, 1/27/2013 12:39:00 PM     (No. 9142396)

To quote Joe Biden: "It´s not about control. It´s about security."

Exactly. My security. Your security. When I hear glass break, a neighbor call for help, etc. I don´t reach for my cell phone.

Although, Joe meant something completely different, we have to use their words against them.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 1/27/2013 12:48:37 PM     (No. 9142418)

As I commented elsewhere, 0bama is deliberately manipulating the meaning of the Second Amendment by telling an obvious lie, because he is a serial liar and knows he can get away with misinforming a good percentage of our population. The Second Amendment is not about hunting, and he knows it. A tyrannical government is now baring its teeth and coming after YOU, Mr. and Mrs. Citizen.

I actually think 0bama is paranoid. Yes, paranoid. He is, I believe, extremely distrustful of the American people. We already know from the last four years that he cannot tolerate anyone disagreeing with him. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the description of a tyrant with very bad designs on We the People.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Vaquero45, 1/27/2013 1:17:00 PM     (No. 9142461)

What a moron. He claims to be a "constitutional scholar", yet he believes that one of the amendments in the Bill of Rights protects a recreational activity!

You know he´s lying about skeet shooting, too. That limp-wristed little weasel wouldn´t know one end of a shotgun from another.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: DoggerelPundit, 1/27/2013 1:23:06 PM     (No. 9142466)

Yes, he attempts to redefine the meaning of our second amendment. But watch out. He is also dividing again, in this case defining urban vs. rural. Urban is where his votes are.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: WIBadger, 1/27/2013 1:38:44 PM     (No. 9142487)

Sure Stinky. Right ater you shut your piehole..

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Dante, 1/27/2013 1:50:38 PM     (No. 9142505)

Backpedaling wuss realizes he picked the wrong fight, must be terribly frustrating for the little fascist.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: janylou, 1/27/2013 2:29:53 PM     (No. 9142566)

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" Can Congress legally pass a law to restrict “rights”?

we need an understanding of “rights” and the role of government. You do not have a “constitutional right” to have a gun and the Second Amendment did not give you the right to bear arms.

"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.” Second Amendment.

This does not say the government, Constitution or this Amendment gives you the right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment, just like others, does not bestow a right upon the people, but prohibits the government from infringing on your rights. Your “right” to keep and bear arms, to free speech, etc.; “shall not be infringed”!

The First Amendment begins “Congress shall make no law ...” This Amendment does not give the right to free speech, it prohibits the government from interfering in the rights we already had.

Neither the Constitution nor the government gave us these rights. Our rights preceded both the document and the government. The Constitution was written to establish a general government for a very few, specific reasons. The Bill of Rights was added making it clear the government did not have the power to restrict “rights.”

if our rights did not come from the government or the Bill of Rights, where did we get them? “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ...” (Declaration of Independence) Our “rights” come from God. They predate the Constitution and the government.

God gave us “unalienable” rights. This means that no one can take them; they are yours unless you relinquish them!







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Reply 38 - Posted by: janylou, 1/27/2013 2:31:23 PM     (No. 9142568)

#The Declaration of Independence goes on to say, “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ...” The government was formed by the people for the purpose of securing our rights.

#Our government has passed laws doing what they were forbidden to do. They took the rights that people gave up. The more rights we give away, the less liberty we enjoy.

#“A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.” (John Adams)

#“They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” (Ben Franklin)

#“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!” (Samuel Adams)

#America sends our military to fight in other countries defending their liberty. Meanwhile, we have been asleep while our government has been stealing our liberty, bit-by-bit. As John Adams said, once we lose liberty, we will not get it back!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: tusker, 1/27/2013 2:46:07 PM     (No. 9142599)

Lying dirt bag hasn´t ever hunted anything except for a copy of Marx swill which he had to have read to him.

Please see current state of New York and the uprising over pending confiscation: "Come and Take It!"

Bastages all.

Shut the hell up Bow-Boy.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: heartsurgeon, 1/27/2013 2:48:55 PM     (No. 9142603)

this is all political posturing... to gin up the base, and distract conservatives.

THE ECONOMY is the problem.

Obama knows he can´t get a gun bill through the House, he doesn´t even have the votes to get one through the Senate. The Supremes are against him.

He knows he cannot get any legislation passed to restrict guns.

This is a giant smoke screen to take attention off the economy.

We need to stop talking about guns (he can´t touch them), and call him out for bankrupting us!!!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: bob913, 1/27/2013 3:25:55 PM     (No. 9142680)

obama is responsible for over 300 dead Mexicans and several Americas by ordering the selling of weapons to the drug cartels.

Did obama listen to all their screams?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: brianod1, 1/27/2013 3:27:36 PM     (No. 9142682)

He is seeking to divide and conquer. Hunter vs. non-hunter; urban gun owner vs. rural gun owner. This is his strategy to whittle away at another of our constitutional rights.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 1/27/2013 3:43:12 PM     (No. 9142709)

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” - Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Lt.Mom, 1/27/2013 4:33:38 PM     (No. 9142794)

What a scold. However, observing his words and behavior over a period of time, I have come to the conclusion that while verbally he appears to be confident that his way is the only way; he is in fact a coward and would actually be taken aback if he were faced with some intractable Congressmen who would refuse to ´work with him´. None, save perhaps Rand Paul, even give him the slightest bit of true opposition.

Please, you so called conservative Representatives in Congress; Take off the gloves and tell him in no uncertain terms, NO! He needs to be confronted when he attempts rule by fiat. He would probably run crying to Michelle.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Conservativegirl, 1/27/2013 4:57:29 PM     (No. 9142847)

We will outlast him and those like him. It´s the only way. This punk was scatching his *ss and wondering who his daddy was when I was in VN. Take a hike.


Girl´s Hubby

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Reply 46 - Posted by: ArtieC, 1/27/2013 6:29:54 PM     (No. 9143025)

This is a man who is president of the United States yet knows nothing about America or her people.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: artman1746, 1/27/2013 8:48:13 PM     (No. 9143203)

Obama has a tactic he thinks works well ; say one thing-do the opposite.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: garyhope, 1/27/2013 9:47:23 PM     (No. 9143285)

Why is there so much "government"? Everyday all of these idiots are out there thinking that they have to "do something" or say something or make some momentous pronouncement. WHY? Why don´t they just take a 9 month vacation every year. How much
"government" do we really need or want? What would happen if all these idiots just went home for a year? Nothing, that´s what. Things would get better. Except for the military, police, fire dept. doctors, janitors and trash pick up and a few other people, do we really need all of our esteemed "leaders"? We´d be better off without all of their meddling. Shut up and go home. Don´t call me,.....I´ll call you.


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For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

Barack Obama and the politics of lies
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Washington Examiner [DC], by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 5:45:25 AM     Post Reply
That was quite a victory dance President Obama did Thursday while claiming Obamacare is “working” because eight million people have now supposedly signed up for the health care program. He even indulged in some less-than-subtle mockery of Republicans - and by extension the majority of Americans who have disapproved of Obamacare since before it became law. "The repeal debate is and should be over,” Obama said, taking a dig at Republicans who are “going through, you know, the stages of grief … anger and denial and all that stuff …” But a president who is viewed by most Americans as less

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s


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