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Condi Rice: GOP ‘Has to
Stop Turning Off Large
Segments of the Population’

National Review Online, by Katrina Trinko

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/21/2013 12:31:51 PM

Talking about whether the Republican party needs to broaden its appeal among minorities, former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice urged Republicans to pay more attention to immigration reform. “The Republican party certainly has to stop turning off large segments of the population,” Rice said on Face the Nation to laughter. “It’s not a strategy to keep hoping that parts of the population don’t turn out. You’ve got to simply broaden.” Immigration, Rice added, was the “big issue.”

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If that wasn´t bad enough she goes on to say that when we "update civil-rights agenda we’ve got to think about how to educate the kids.” A good start would be to fire all the corrupt, incompetent union teachers.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/21/2013 12:34:51 PM     (No. 9130128)

Safe to expose your RINO hide now that you´re working for the media now, eh Condi?

Immigration isn´t an issue where the agencies are permitted to do their jobs - like JFK where they scrutinize Europeans and returning Americans.

Lawbreaking IS the issue i.e. our southern border that is crossed illegally every minute of every day. Should we forgive burglars, thieves, rapists, bank robbers, fraudsters, and pickpockets too in order to ´broaden our appeal?´

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bgarrett, 1/21/2013 12:41:03 PM     (No. 9130142)

GOP? you mean Democrat-lite?
Dont call me a Republican. I am a conservative and the GOP is not

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Safari Man, 1/21/2013 12:41:25 PM     (No. 9130143)

Et tu Conde?


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Reply 4 - Posted by: sardonic, 1/21/2013 12:42:53 PM     (No. 9130147)

I believe it is wiser to take into account what she says and shape the message as best we can. The left and their MSM mouthpieces will always attempt to bend whatever the GOP comes up with into an anti-minority position but the more the GOP gets their vision out there, past the media, and into the minds of the public the more they will see the GOP as offering real ideas and alternatives.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: aasilver, 1/21/2013 12:46:04 PM     (No. 9130156)

I´m beginning to believe my neighbor who says that ALL blacks are Racists. There are a few conservative blacks but the overwhelming majority of Blacks are the most Racist people in the USA.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 1/21/2013 12:50:00 PM     (No. 9130166)

Like I have been saying since last Novemember the only way for the GOP is to lie like a Democrat. The majority of voters want to be lied to.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tinnyanko, 1/21/2013 12:50:12 PM     (No. 9130167)

Oh brother. Yesterday I read an Ldotter say Condi for pres. when she trashed Obama. Now she´s a RINO. How about actually reading her comments with unjaundiced eyes and ears before coming to any conclusion.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: tank, 1/21/2013 12:54:35 PM     (No. 9130176)

Well, disagree with her to noe point. The conservative message on immigration and ´´minorities´´ is warped and distorted by our enemies and folks on our own side. When you try to make the point of what you are trying to argue (lawfullness v. unlowfullness), you´re steamrolled by a deafening chorus of people calling you an intolerant racist.

Unfortunately, Rice seems to buy this, too. Is the policy wrong, or are our policies misrepresented?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 1/21/2013 12:56:28 PM     (No. 9130179)

#8, it is way too challenging for some to read the article, which only give snipets of her overall remarks, but at least conveys her praise of the Rubio plan...the same plan greeted favorably by many on this site judging from the quick search I did by entering his name in the Lucianne search engine...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 1/21/2013 12:58:34 PM     (No. 9130185)

Maybe I am a sage. I predicted yesterday in the thread on her move to CBS that she would be the next Joe Scarborough and begin taking hits at the Pubs.

Didn´t take her long, did it?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/21/2013 1:00:13 PM     (No. 9130196)

#8 I did read her comments and responded accordingly. I resent your implication that I did not.

Surely you must know that expecting unanimity on any subject is a fool´s errand as attributing the thoughts of one poster to another.

In the story of Jonah, the sailors who rescued him were struck by terrible storms. Desperate and puzzled, they cast lots to determine their next move. So it is with the GOP who can´t understand why Dem-lite isn´t winning them elections and why their conservative base are fed up.

If we are jaundiced it´s because we are hearing the same rubbish on immigration from any and all in the GOP from consultants to candidates to Senators to ex-cabinet members.

We are not Japan. We are not Europe, although the current DC cabal is intent on pushing us in that direction.

Quoting anything Ted Kennedy might have said, done or proposed is prima facie evidence that Rice´s advice is unworthy of consideration.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/21/2013 1:03:17 PM     (No. 9130212)

Rice is right, of course. I´m sure she had to resist adding a "Well, duh!", because it so obvious that the GOP has to find a way to attract more voters. What´s not to like about what she said? There are too many knee-jerk responses on this thread.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: nosillod, 1/21/2013 1:07:47 PM     (No. 9130223)

Like Conservatives?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: WAN2, 1/21/2013 1:09:43 PM     (No. 9130228)

Et tu, Brute?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 1/21/2013 1:13:59 PM     (No. 9130242)

I don´t think the GOP needs to try to attract Obamaphone / low-information (Low IQ) voters. We don´t need large crowds of Dolts on our side.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: horacer, 1/21/2013 1:16:18 PM     (No. 9130251)

Rod Paige first called education the new civil rights issue. I don´t disagree.

The 2007 Immigration Bill never had a chance. Harry Reid wouldn´t let it go thru the normal amendment process, he demanded an immediate vote on cloture. Let´s have an open and honest debate.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: fiddle ed, 1/21/2013 1:16:39 PM     (No. 9130252)

Rice is not right. Who´s turning off large segments of the population? It´s the Left and statements by Rice and Powell that somehow the color of skin is the preferential standard by which the government bestows its laws and favors. If you´re standing on the premise 2+2=4, should you curry to those saying 2+2=5? All men are created equal. That´s the 2+2=4.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: billp, 1/21/2013 1:20:05 PM     (No. 9130269)

‘Has to Stop Turning Off Large Segments of the Population’

Doesn´t seem to have hurt the Democrats any.

Problem is, when we have a criminal in the house, we turn him or her out - with prejudice. When the Democrats have a criminal in the house, they bring him coffee and donuts. The media then rails against the Repub´s for even having a (comparatively rare) criminal in their ranks, yet praises the Dem´s for their compassion and inclusion.

Kind of hard to get your message past that sort of blatant favoritism on the part of the MSM. Fox is no longer much better - the ONLY way to effectively deal with this is through one or more Conservative ONLY networks. No more ´balanced´ or ´fair´ attempts because our more numerous and better funded opposition is neither.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: dman, 1/21/2013 1:21:03 PM     (No. 9130273)

Condi and her Establishment friends want to be rid of conservative "extremists".

The feeling is mutual.

New party.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bluefindad, 1/21/2013 1:21:18 PM     (No. 9130274)

Notice she referred to "segments" (plural) of the population, so she´s not just talking about immigration. Instead, she´s referring to the same strategy as the Democrats - pandering to groups. That´s fine if we wish to be a people who simply strive to provide all people with their individual or collective desires. Hey, it seems to work for the Democrats.

Her reference to education is just political swill. The problem with education in inner cities is not lack of effort, technique, money or approach. It is cultural. Nobody has sufficient intestinal fortitude to say that a culture has emerged that resists education - it is simply not a component of its ´value´ structure. But, in a PC, multi-cultural world, no remedy is forthcoming. The Dems know this, so their approach is not to try to fix the problem, but to cash in on the embedded cultural anger. Should we try to do the same?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: JAN, 1/21/2013 1:24:31 PM     (No. 9130282)

If large segments of the population dont want to go to work every day. Don´t care about the responsibilities of freedom but care only for free stuff......then I say let them wallow in their own misery.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 1/21/2013 1:32:34 PM     (No. 9130304)

Ms Rice, did you mean ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The U.S. immigration policy works just fine.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: St. Pitbull, 1/21/2013 1:36:01 PM     (No. 9130310)

Let´s address a core issue:

Those "without" will almost always vote for those politicians who promise to take from those "with" and give it to them. I believe that this is akin to the tyranny of the masses.

Republicans and conservatives, being the party of personal responsibility by and large believe that those "without" (and with no desire to ever earn a responsible paycheck) should not be given a vote that counts the same as theirs, who have come by their "with" through hard work and perseverance.

How are we ever going to come to a compromise?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: califedup, 1/21/2013 1:36:06 PM     (No. 9130311)

Ms. Rice´s argument is based on the biggest lie about the democrat party that is embedded in our culture today. That the republicans don´t do anything for Americans of different skin color while the democrats are so much more beneficial.

Let´s look at the results of 60 years of democrat policies on the black segment of the population: Most black childeren have no fathers, most drop out of high school, the highest crime and murder rates are in the black ghettos, which are nothing more than modern day slave plantations curtesy of the democrat party. Unemployment is far higher among the black and hispanic population. Talk instead about this democrat created disaster.

So don´t tell me Condi, that republicans have to stop turning off large segments of the population that the democrats have brainwashed into accepting slavery, dependency and no hope of ever living a productive and fulfilling life. Shame on you, I thought better of you but you are no different than all of the other greedy clowns in the media. FOR SHAME!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Italiano, 1/21/2013 1:39:27 PM     (No. 9130320)

"...if you are poor and black and trapped in a failing neighborhood school some place, your prospects are really dim."

True, but whose fault is that, and what do you propose to remedy the situation? (Hint: Throwing more money down the inner-city commode is a real credibility-killer). Please enlighten us, Condi.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/21/2013 1:53:29 PM     (No. 9130363)

No, close the borders. Conservative women need to have 10 babies each.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: BocaLaura, 1/21/2013 1:57:34 PM     (No. 9130371)

How can you reach people who refuse to listen and ignore or deride your actions?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: noproblems, 1/21/2013 2:02:02 PM     (No. 9130375)

how many RINO´s and establishment types before folks realize that this is the republican party?

tea party should stop spitting into the wind, wasting time and money, trying to rehabilitate the Repugs and for their own national party; call it the American Renaissance Party or something similar)

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Reply 29 - Posted by: redwhite&blue2, 1/21/2013 2:02:37 PM     (No. 9130376)

Condi Rice: Ass-press Enemedia and Liar Network News Has to stop "Portraying" GOP as turning off large segments of the low-information mooch idiot population....there, I fixed it for ya!


Paging Colin Powell, paging Chris Christie, paging Condi Rice to the lifeboat with a big hole in it! You three blind mice, you three stooges, you three rino´s, you three idiots! Get outta here!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Revolution76, 1/21/2013 2:05:04 PM     (No. 9130380)

Large portions of the population are lost and cannot be reached. Time for a divorce.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: BluesClues, 1/21/2013 2:10:17 PM     (No. 9130395)

She is right and am heartened by comments on this site that agree. Folks want to condemn her as a RINO, sold out to CBS, etc. The simple fact of her point, is that if repupblicans want to be relevant, they need to appeal to the mainstream. It´s not enough for republicans to appeal to you alone. We´ve just gone through an election where Romney was terrible at articulating ideas and had been branded as supporting unpopular ideas. You might have supported his ideas, but if 50% or more of the country don´t agree with you, you get Obama. If republicans nominate an ´pro-life, anti-immigration, anti-gay-marriage, limiting safety net´ platform, they will loose again. They may be intellectually right, but they will loose. Republicans need to create stark differences between democrats, but they must pick positions that are popular. Forget about differentiating by choosing unpopular ideas. That´s all she´s saying. And, like it or not, she is right.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: wsdiego, 1/21/2013 2:17:50 PM     (No. 9130417)

So who should conservatives suck up to Condi? Cheap talk is cheap!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Italiano, 1/21/2013 2:18:51 PM     (No. 9130420)

In the Most Internally Inconsistent Post Of The 21st Century Competition, I do believe we have a winner.

Republicans will never succeed in out-pandering, out-tax sponge butt-kissing or out-victim-enabling the Democrats. Ever. Does that means that it´s over? As far as elections go, it probably is.



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Reply 34 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 1/21/2013 2:36:49 PM     (No. 9130465)

At Romney´s convention a parade of minority office holders and candidates enthusiastically told their stories. Unless you were watching CSpan you never saw any of those minorities. Each and every time one came out the cameras cut to talking heads. I know this because my son watched a public channel and he never saw any minority speakers. Until I told him he didn´t know there had been any. I know about them because I was watching CSpan which had no talking heads and just shot the action, all the action, as it was taking place.

A wonderful opportunity to reach minorities was missed, but how was that the fault of Republicans?

This is what we are up against in getting our message out. The minorities are not seeking us out. They don´t particularly want to hear from us. They think they already know. In addition, we can´t get to them.



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Reply 35 - Posted by: yuban, 1/21/2013 2:42:03 PM     (No. 9130477)

Gee, so if we act like Democrats, are pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, stop reading and believing in the Bible, turn in all our guns, then, and only then, can we, the GOP, defeat the dems. Wow, why didn´t I think of that. You Moderates are so brilliant.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 1/21/2013 2:44:49 PM     (No. 9130483)

Oh a compassionate conservative.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/21/2013 2:51:04 PM     (No. 9130496)

She is right for the most part. Yes, it is the left that has been lying about us for years and thus alienated people from the party. But we have done our own part too. I see a LOT of racist and bigoted comments even on this site where there USED TO be none (or very few). I know a lot of it is from people´s frustrations and is not real bigotry--but that is irrelevant. If people perceive it to be against them, it is. We have done a TERRIBLE job at reaching out to people of different races and backgrounds. We don´t go into their neighborhoods and listen to their concerns. Don´t tell me that we do. But the left does--even if it is just for lip service and to use it against the people. It is their PERCEPTION that the left cares. Battered woman syndrome "he loves me" "I may not be better off right now, but he really cares". We need to break that perception that we are the bad guys.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/21/2013 2:52:52 PM     (No. 9130501)

And NO you don´t need to pander and act like a Democrat. Just be willing to listen and care enough to try to assist their communities.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: LadyVet, 1/21/2013 2:56:14 PM     (No. 9130507)

Condi is right that conservatives have to win enough of the vote to gain power and that the education system is becoming the civil rights issue of our time.

I went to a wedding this weekend for a young Hispanic couple. The groom´s family originated in Mexico, are here legally, are hard working, and have never taken any welfare payments. The bride´s family was from Central America and came here legally with the clothes on their back. The father has worked construction and done well enough to support a large family. There were a lot of young kids at the wedding reception. It all reminded me of my own family and I felt right at home. I´d guess that most of these people vote Democrat. They do not yet realize that they are natural conservatives. We need to persuade these people to vote the way they live their lives. I´m working on that.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Shagpoke, 1/21/2013 2:56:50 PM     (No. 9130509)

Deleted by Lcom Taste Police.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: STLstudent, 1/21/2013 3:11:22 PM     (No. 9130535)

How, Condi? How is the GOP not to be seen as declaring "war"? More food stamps than the Dems? Move free cell phones than the Dems? More welfare and unemployment payments than the Dems? Allow more illegal aliens than the Dems?

Any attempt at defending the Constitution will be viewed as "war" on "large segments." The future is ugly. Prepare for the worse.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: tisHimself, 1/21/2013 3:26:39 PM     (No. 9130581)

I seem to remember her saying something very similar to this after the 2010 elections. Oh wait, maybe not....

What has the GOP done differently over the past four years that it didn´t do from 2000-2008?

Obviously, we need Jeb to save us all.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/21/2013 3:38:55 PM     (No. 9130635)

Took her all of 5 minutes to start trashing the GOP. Why didn`t she just say the republicans need to be more like democrats....

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Reply 44 - Posted by: jimmyfoxhound, 1/21/2013 3:49:57 PM     (No. 9130662)

I know wbat we need, more talking heads trashing the conservative base of the Republican party. That´s just what the Dems do, isn´t it? Trash their core voters? How can the party unify when the few public figures the Republicans have say this stuff? How about praising your party and being positive instead of giving an adversarial press sound bites they can use to trash us in headlines?

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Jakester2344, 1/21/2013 4:03:40 PM     (No. 9130694)

Yeah when you use plain talk in describing the RINO´s plan, they get all huffy-puffy and notice no spelling out what their strategy is. Just "lets appeal to minorities".Nothing about what made this country great. Most of their point are: Lets shut up Palin and people like her.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 1/21/2013 4:39:24 PM     (No. 9130763)

What political party does not want as many members and voters as possible?

What Ms. Rice advises is strategically sound. The devil is in the details. Just how do we go about attracting voters who are hostile to Republican values? Who do not want the U.S. border made secure or the flow of illegal immigrants stopped? Who believe in bigger government, more entitlements, more handouts, higher taxes, less individual freedom, identity politics, no voter ID to make sure those voting are eligible to vote etc. etc. etc.?

It would be simple to compromise on immigration if the will to compromise were there. Start by ramping up border security to stem the inflow of illegals - and THEN provide an expedited path to citizenship for selected illegals already here.

It would be equally simple to compromise on the Federal budget if the will to compromise were there: take meaningful steps to control government spending, and THEN look at raising taxes in selected cases.

Democrats have the cart before the horse and are unwilling to take the logical, necessary first step. They want open borders and uncontrolled government spending to continue, and they want to give citizenship to illegals and to raise taxes wherever they can.

If Ms. Rice has a solution to this conundrum, she will do us a favor by describing it.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: vesicant, 1/21/2013 5:06:12 PM     (No. 9130824)

What does she mean, stop turning off large parts of the voting public? Illegal immigrants can vote?!

I amuse myself...

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Prominent Washington correspondents are accusing President Obama and his aides of knowingly stretching the truth on issues like the so-called women´s pay gap just to create controversy and keep issues -- and the president -- relevant. Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus kicked off the attack last week when she blasted as “demagoguery” the administration´s tactics during the pay gap debate. “The level of hyperbole -- actually, of demagoguery -- that Democrats have engaged in here is revolting,” she wrote. CBS White House Correspondent Major Garrett then weighed in this week in his National Journal



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Kim Novak responds to post-
Oscars ridicule: ‘I was bullied.’

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Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

Analysis: Obama Celebrates
Eight Million ´Enrollments,´
Again Declares Debate ´Over´

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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