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Obama signs protection bill
for former presidents

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Posted By:JoniTx, 1/10/2013 4:09:21 PM

President Barack Obama has signed into law a bill granting lifetime Secret Service protection to former presidents and their wives. The measure Obama signed Thursday applies to presidents elected after Jan. 1, 1997, specifically Obama and former President George W. Bush. It reverses a 1994 law that ended Secret Service protection 10 years after a president leaves office. Under that law, the Homeland Security secretary could extend such protection on a temporary basis. A sponsor of the bill, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, says increased terrorist threats and the greater mobility and youth of former presidents

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: viking diver, 1/10/2013 4:12:28 PM     (No. 9109510)

me thinks he is a bit worried

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Dante, 1/10/2013 4:14:59 PM     (No. 9109514)

Let them pay for their own security, the title ensures them of a lifetime of high living just for making appearances.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ynaught, 1/10/2013 4:15:01 PM     (No. 9109515)

So, will Bill and Hill have to start packing now?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: sardonic, 1/10/2013 4:15:25 PM     (No. 9109516)

One gets used to an entourage carry guns I guess.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/10/2013 4:16:18 PM     (No. 9109518)

One of the few good decisions the kenyan klown has made.
That runaway democtratic congress of 1994 was being punitive, in my opinion.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jl80863, 1/10/2013 4:18:38 PM     (No. 9109520)

I bet the jerk didn´t use the autopen on that one.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Grady, 1/10/2013 4:21:01 PM     (No. 9109523)

So,
Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife Elena had lifetime protection.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: billp, 1/10/2013 4:25:07 PM     (No. 9109527)

Because you can never spend too much on politicians... the new royalty.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: TXknitter, 1/10/2013 4:26:48 PM     (No. 9109531)

This makes me angry. I really like Rep. Gowdy but this is absolute horse hockey and he knows it. Ridiculous.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: vhs68, 1/10/2013 4:27:55 PM     (No. 9109532)

Who´s gonna pay the tab? We will be broke before the BigEared guy´s term is up.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: nimby, 1/10/2013 4:31:39 PM     (No. 9109540)

So, they have to squeeze every drop of blood from tax payers!!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/10/2013 4:40:15 PM     (No. 9109548)

I don´t have a problem with this. I think former POTUSes should be protected on our dime. Billy and Hilly were covered under the old rules; the only ones not covered were GW and POTUSes forward.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 1/10/2013 4:45:18 PM     (No. 9109557)

Good point #7. I expect that thought has crossed the One´s mind

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Reply 14 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 1/10/2013 4:52:06 PM     (No. 9109567)

The Presidet of the United States is just a man. He is not royal or devine, no matter what they may think of themselves. If they feel the need for security, they should foot the bill themselves.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/10/2013 4:59:57 PM     (No. 9109578)

He threw Bush in there to appear bi-partisan.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Lurker2, 1/10/2013 5:00:12 PM     (No. 9109580)

Protection for me, not for thee...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Theeo, 1/10/2013 5:13:43 PM     (No. 9109593)

The PuppetPresident never was personally useful so I don´t see the reason to protect when him when he´s out of office; but I would like to have his marionette id´d.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: The Advocate, 1/10/2013 5:25:54 PM     (No. 9109606)

Another reason faux Potusmust be exposed and thrown out.
Americans should not have to support this false POTUS and his racist wife/

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Reply 19 - Posted by: willistutu, 1/10/2013 5:30:10 PM     (No. 9109610)

More proof that we´re living in the Fall of the Roman Republic.

I´m will to pay for Secret Service protection for them, but only if the Secret Service is not allowed to carry guns

Guns kill people.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: annie xango, 1/10/2013 5:34:22 PM     (No. 9109619)

He really, really wanted it to be as of 2009, but even The Won didn´t have the gonads to do that....

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PageTurner, 1/10/2013 5:34:31 PM     (No. 9109620)

If anyone is going to need lifelong secret service protection, it probably is presidents Obama and Bush. I hate the idea of spending money on them when they have so much themselves, but it´s got to be a reality that bin laden´s remaining slimeball army would probably do them in if they could. I think we should foot this one, the maggots are still out there.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: spinpilot, 1/10/2013 5:35:54 PM     (No. 9109622)

Nothing more than CYA!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: PageTurner, 1/10/2013 5:37:35 PM     (No. 9109625)

...contrary to what Obama would have you believe, al Qaida is still out there. Maybe now he will quit lying about it, though shame has never been a concept he´s familiar with.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: lazlototh, 1/10/2013 5:46:25 PM     (No. 9109640)

Given what any President knows about national security - even 20 years after being in office - and that most of them have the resistance power in rough interrogation of probably the average civilian - this one isn´t difficult to me. Lots of other things are but not this.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Bazi, 1/10/2013 5:58:43 PM     (No. 9109651)

19- Exactly. no guns allowed! Th SS will wear big buttons that will say: " We do not carry guns"

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 1/10/2013 6:01:17 PM     (No. 9109654)

Is Obe merely providing for his protection after the impeachment?
G W Bush proved in 2004 he could protect his own safety AND rescue his top SS protector during the incident in So America.
His Pappy as VP also showed his ability when he walked alone unarmed into a hostile situation to retrieve a held Gov. official once again So. America.
Oliver North along for the ride told that story of courage.
Too bad the Bengazzi 4 didn´t have that kind of top guns.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Penney, 1/10/2013 6:24:45 PM     (No. 9109678)

What timing!!! ...How ironic 0bama would sign this bill protecting himself at the very time he & his Administration is trying to repeal the Second Amendment Right of law abiding citizens to bear arms. mmm mmm mmm

But then, 0bama IS a, ´Do as I say, not as I do,´ kind of pol. sigh
(Couldn´t he just call 911? s/)

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Reply 28 - Posted by: woodsman, 1/10/2013 6:47:48 PM     (No. 9109708)

Will they be armed????....With Guns????

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Reply 29 - Posted by: volksford, 1/10/2013 6:57:52 PM     (No. 9109722)

He is one paranoid little sob. He´s a Marxist and he knows that we know he´s a Marxist.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ramona, 1/10/2013 7:02:36 PM     (No. 9109724)

I hate to think that this nothingburger, atheist, terrorist sympathizer will be living high on taxpayer funding for 40 years after he leaves office. But it would be far, far worse for him to be martyred for his diabolical cause.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 31 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 1/10/2013 7:10:02 PM     (No. 9109741)

Curious timing - right before the Great Gun Grab.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 1/10/2013 7:18:27 PM     (No. 9109762)

What´s next, lifetime vacations for them too ? Lifetime hair straightening and make up staff or ex-first ladies who need them ?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: artiec, 1/10/2013 8:12:24 PM     (No. 9109855)

Is this a law or executive order? It´s hard to tell the difference these days.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: tommyr, 1/10/2013 10:10:26 PM     (No. 9109981)

It was noted a few weeks ago that Chelsea Clinton still had security detail. Anyone have some facts?

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Reply 35 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/10/2013 10:34:19 PM     (No. 9110008)

Security with himself in mind ?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: loosbolt, 1/11/2013 1:11:04 AM     (No. 9110115)

I´m not very smart so can someone please tell me the last time a retired president had his life threatened?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: nonsense, 1/11/2013 7:49:16 AM     (No. 9110291)

I did not read the bill, but doesn´t it also guarantee life-long protection for all the congresscritters too.

Just think, that crazy Grayson and Pete Stark will have armed guards for life. Now, how much is all of this lifetime protection costing the taxpayer?

What are they doing to our lives that they are so worried about their lives. Some pigs are more equal than others.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: LZK, 1/11/2013 8:21:40 AM     (No. 9110347)

Oh brother.....

Another spend what you don´t have....

I think there´s a "special" saying about people who do this....

LZK

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Reply 39 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 1/11/2013 8:46:40 AM     (No. 9110391)

What U scared about "O"?

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Reply 40 - Posted by: knarfski, 1/11/2013 8:46:46 AM     (No. 9110392)

In today´s world, when will protection for their children and their wives be added?

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Husker Infidel, 1/11/2013 8:49:22 AM     (No. 9110398)

Nixon opted out of Secret Service protection after his presidency and hired private security.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Adam, 1/11/2013 8:54:45 AM     (No. 9110403)

A couple of days ago would have been Richard Nixon´s 100th birthday. Say what you want about Nixon but, though he was entitled to Secret Service protection, he declined it. I actually saw him get out of a car he had been driving himself and walk into Yankee Stadium. It was astonishing. Look, I don´t want anything bad to happen to any President. It´s an attack on the nation itself. But ex-Presidents make millions upon millions for doing absolutely nothing. Pay for it yourself!

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Reply 43 - Posted by: so_free_me, 1/11/2013 9:00:33 AM     (No. 9110416)



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Reply 44 - Posted by: so_free_me, 1/11/2013 9:02:29 AM     (No. 9110418)

What´s the back story to the protection being removed in 1994?


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Reply 45 - Posted by: ConservativeYankee, 1/11/2013 9:07:14 AM     (No. 9110425)

Did Zero make a little exception to include his own kids and Moochelle´s mother after 2016?

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Grampy, 1/11/2013 9:19:51 AM     (No. 9110457)

Seems to me there has been a king or two in history who have been taken care by someone in the inner circle when their usefulness has been used up...

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 1/11/2013 9:24:04 AM     (No. 9110463)

Where there is smoke there is fire.
I have to wonder about the threat level against his black butt.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: CEP, 1/11/2013 9:46:34 AM     (No. 9110508)

So this Trey Gowdy of South Carolina thinks that these guys are so great they need lifetime protection, because of terrorist threats. Yet they are debating whether ordinary citizens should be able to protect themselves with guns because guns are dangerous? Will someone please tell me that this country is not in a mess and it lacks common sense?

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Reply 49 - Posted by: little guy, 1/11/2013 10:05:23 AM     (No. 9110568)

Of all the awful things this guy has done, this is low on my ticked-off list. We are still the greatest country in the world and protecting our former POTUS should not be something to cry about. Imagine a former POTUS getting kidnapped and held hostage by any one of several terrorist groups. We´d then spend millions getting him/her back and seeking revenge. Cheaper this way. And yes, our secret service are better than rent a cops. Let´s protect them the right way and send that message. In the future, it´s possible we would have a POTUS who becomes ill and doesn´t have that much $$ to hire guns.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: farmwife, 1/11/2013 10:29:46 AM     (No. 9110628)

I don´t mind paying agents to protect them, but I do mind paying for agents that these people turn into servants--carrying luggage, cleaning cars, fetching coffee, etc. Clintons were famous for that.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Chiritwo, 1/11/2013 10:33:29 AM     (No. 9110638)

I thought he was against guns. No wonder people just shake their heads at everything he does. The press is so quiet about this guy. Do they realize the dangerous game they´re playing?

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Reply 52 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/11/2013 11:10:51 AM     (No. 9110722)

In a way it´s fitting. He will have no privacy in perpetuity. Of course he will look upon them as Barack Hussein´s Republican Guard.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/11/2013 11:14:07 AM     (No. 9110728)

Back in the early 80´s I had a friend who was a SS agent. He told me that the worst possible duty assignment in the SS was that of guarding Jimmah in Plains, GA. Guarding the black trash in Hawaii would probably be a pretty good gig, at least when one if off duty.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 1/11/2013 11:46:12 AM     (No. 9110793)

We have been paying for their protection for a period of ten years. That was ample.

To pay for every former president AND HIS WIFE for life is unreasonable. Who wants to kill aany of them after they have been out of office for ten years?

Obama can´t find enough ways to spend money can he? But he keeps at it.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: owl, 1/11/2013 11:57:38 AM     (No. 9110818)

Jimmy Carter is STILL using the Parks Dept. to clean his pool and manicure the yard , to the tune of umpteen bucks . Any bets on what this POS will end up with ?. I´d have to say the Hawaiian villa for starters . And don´t forget to throw in a free 747 with all the luxuries . American people , you voted for him , so EAT CAKE .

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Reply 56 - Posted by: strike3, 1/11/2013 12:09:33 PM     (No. 9110847)

Biden is going to announce the government´s big ambition to control our guns tomorrow. Coincidental that OB One is worried today? I think not.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: Felixcat, 1/11/2013 12:15:00 PM     (No. 9110859)

So how many former Presidents have been assassinated? No reason that a wealthy former President and his family cannot decline USSS protection and hire personal security (most of who are retired USSS and Special Ops) . And if you look at the history of terrorist atatcks on Americans - they´ve gone after the average American.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: Memphis, 1/11/2013 12:44:58 PM     (No. 9110923)

He is not a lawful president, he is a squatter in chief, who is using forged IDs and belongs in prison



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Reply 59 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/11/2013 12:45:40 PM     (No. 9110925)

Oh, so he forces US to pay gun toting folks to protect him and then has the audacity to try to take our guns away from us so we are basically defenseless...got it!

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Reply 60 - Posted by: Namma, 1/11/2013 12:56:56 PM     (No. 9110957)

who is obama afaid of..if he is taking our guns away it must be someone in another country..or will he be doing something so outragish after he takes Amerikans guns that he will need protection...

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Reply 61 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 1/11/2013 1:23:50 PM     (No. 9111030)

I would like to know who protected all those legless, armless, faceless men and women who were maimed and slaughtered under Bush in Iraq. For Nothing! Tell me for what?
These gory high fillutin presidents deserve nothing.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: caddyjak, 1/11/2013 2:25:04 PM     (No. 9111181)

#60...If only you had run the RNC during the last election Fraudobama would be packing permanently for Hawaii....

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Reply 63 - Posted by: wsdiego, 1/11/2013 5:14:02 PM     (No. 9111467)

Isn´t that what the wall between agencies was about for Clinton?

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Reply 64 - Posted by: philemon1967, 1/11/2013 6:56:22 PM     (No. 9111609)

Perhaps, Obama knows that the muslim terrorists he dispatches with his drones have friends and relatives who won´t soon forget. But, he has more cause to worry about a threat from a different direction. He´s storing up a lot of divine wrath with his selling the Jews off to the ravenous wolves of the Islamic world and payback is coming. There is no human protection that can protect him when divine retribution comes.

I think ex-presidents should have armed protection but perhaps they should pay for it themselves. If they can earn millions on speaking engagements, they should be able to pay for their bodyguards and not burden an already broke country.

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Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too


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