89-8 means more than Dems voted for it. The GOP is also at fault, again. No backbone or just Socialist lite?

Not at all crazy about this bill. Vote it down!

At what point will the dims push their luck too far? When will all this backfire? I hope the gop has some serious surprises up their sleeve.

This entire process is a travesty.
I am keeping close track on those GOP members who voted for this deal. I hope they enjoyed their congressional run because our movement will do everything possible to punish and replace their heartless unAmerican soles.

Oh, Pshaw! These are the hoodlums and gangsters that got us into this mess.....spending more than we took in, raiding S.S. and Medicare accounts -- all for boosting their own political prestige and personal gain. Now we are supposed to fall in reverence to their late-night struggles and "agreement?" Heck, no! Stand firm, House conservatives -- NO tax increases on anybody! Any Joe American can go in there and raise taxes, but that´s not where true courage and fortitude lie. Any Joe American who loves his country can go in there and make spending cuts, significant spending cuts and set examples that Americans will not take it anymore -- cut Congressional and Executive perks by at least 50 percent.

Please, please, please House GOP: do NOT vote for this. It is time to be responsible. It isn´t often popular, but it is time for us to pay for the country we have created, else it will just get worse.

Really, even the cliff doesn´t pay for what we have already spent. It is time to start doing the right thing.

Stabbed in the back by Senate GOPers. A pox on them and their spawn. If "Mr. Speaker" wants to get reelected, he better turn his back on this travesty....

The GOP believes in nothing and will fight for nothing. The constitutional republic is gone.

The whole idea behind this foolish exercise was to"freeze the target",that is House tea party people and make them the top villains in 2014.
If Boehner brings this to the floor,it will pass with dim votes,so his only choice is not bring it to the floor and the "crisis" could go on for weeks with the media stabbing the tea party people,every single day.

Obama wants to crow victory if everything goes right or blame Biden/McConnell if it goes wrong.What a farce him coming back to DC is/was.He probably just misses the WH booze cabinet.

The entire Congress is made up mostly of self-serving spineless wimps, worried only about re-election. The entire lot of them should be replaced.

But I WANT spending cuts.

Well, I just want to congratulate congress, especially those long-termers for the magnificent way they have handled the people´s money over the years...16+ trillion in debt. But don´t worry, these same people will solve this problem! And they all make a minimum of $174,000 per year. Oops, I forgot, they just got a raise to a minimum $174,900.

The payroll tax will go up two percent in this ´deal´.

#13, no. It will go back to where it was. Cutting SS by that 2% was a stupid idea.

It would have been much more productive to reduce all government entities budgets by 1 cent on the dollar.

Vote it down. Make this President sign a budget with actual spending cuts.

I wish the Bill No. was in the story - I´d like to read it for myself, and I´d like to see the vote. Guess I´ll go searching.....

The Senate Bill is available:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00251#position

Tiny version:
http://tinyurl.com/bl37oo9

Here´s the short list of Nay votes:
Bennet (D-CO)
Carper (D-DE)
Grassley (R-IA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lee (R-UT)
Paul (R-KY)
Rubio (R-FL)
Shelby (R-AL

Another short list of Not Voting:
DeMint (R-SC)
Kirk (R-IL)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)

And Fox News is, just this minute, reporting these specific vote totals.

So, there ya go.

I thought I heard the sound of an empty can being kicked by empty suits in DC. Both my senators, Burr (R) and Hagan (D) voted for the bill. Where´s the backbone? Let´s hope the House will do the right thing.

Ronald Reagan knew what we going to happen and in 1985 told us in an address to the country:
Every time in the past, when a government taxed the people past a certain level, trust in government began to erode. It would begin with efforts to avoid paying the full tax. This would become outright cheating and eventually a distrust in government itself until there would be a breakdown in law and order. How many times have we watched luxuries casually written off to be paid for by somebody else, that somebody being us the taxpayers.
Sound familiar? We´re headed for a breakdown in law and order right now with Hobby Lobby being only one example. 27 States have filed suit against Obamacare (which is a tax) with others ready to join in. Has John Kerry paid his yacht tax yet? Our problem may be due in part to a lack of revenue, but it is certainly not due to the lack of taxes. We´ve seen them do nothing but go up! The country´s fiscal issues are due to the insane, irresponsible spending of a dysfunctional government that is drunk with power so much so that even in the face of a crippling deficit, it can´t wait to spend even more on raises, waste, fraud and hand-outs which has only resulted in a lack of confidence to invest here. Cut the spending big time. Do what makes sense and restore confidence in the American system and we will see investment come back along with a successful economy and plenty of revenue as a result. Sadly however, does anyone really expect this administration to actually do something that makes sense in light of the fact that they have not done so in four years?

Byron York thinks it will pass in the House by a landslide. He says only 40 Reps are adamant about voting against it. That leaves more than 200 pubbies whom many vote for it.

Great Americans, all!!!! We´ll see.

What about that pesky Constitution? Art 1 Section 7 states:

"All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives"

The Supreme Court has ruled that the Senate can initiate bills that create revenue, but ONLY if the revenue is incidental and not directly a tax. In US v Munoz-Flores (495 US 385 [1990]), the Court said, "Because the bill at issue here was not one for raising revenue, it could not have been passed in violation of the Origination Clause."

It has been reported that 12 min. BEFORE midnight the IRS sent out the details of this deal as far as taxes are concerned.

Lot of posturing for some unknown reason.

Don´t quote the Constitution to this people, especially the potus. To quote the potus "a flawed and irrelevant document". Seems our congress agrees with him.

Can you imagine running your own home/finances this way? Have no idea what your budget is, be heavily in debt, do nothing to curb spending or pay down your debt, just find another credit card and....CHARGE!

A guest on Fox and Friends during the 6 a.m. Hour from American Majority Action said he thought the bill would be passed by the House Dems with a couple dozen moderate House GOPers to complete the votes needed.
If it comes to a vote it will be interesting to see how the GOP leadership votes. Will they be voting their own demise? This guest said he thought well over 100 conservative House members would not vote FOR this solution.

Higher taxes but delayed spending cuts. I was so blindsided by this development.

Anyone who thinks the ship of fools that is our goobermint would do what is good for AmeriKa, is delusional.

*** We are now in permanent crisis mode. ***

That was a primary goal of the socialists.

My Senator John Cornyn from Texas voted to increase taxes on the "rich"! He´s part of the problem and he needs to go. The spending cuts will never materialize. What a joke the Republican party has become. If the House approves this load of bull droppings I will leave the Republican party!

Spending cuts? Ha ha ha ha ha. Zippy already said that the new revenue would be used for spending.

GOP representatives were not elected to vote for tax increases and no spending cuts.

The tax bill that past the Senate seems reasonable. Spending cuts can be handled during the "raise-the debt-limit" process.

Well, on the bright side, the Senate passed a bill. First one,right?
Didn´t Iraq have the same problem until they threatened to stop thier salaries.

Time to send a clear message to the GOP.

Re-register ´Independent´ tommorrow.

Sorry about that. Both of my senators here in OK voted for this. I´m beyond tired of politicians.

The drama queens have given us 2 more months of BS!

"Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? Let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

"This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

"But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace."

I don´t think that anyone should take comfort that the House hasn´t yet passed this monstrosity. As previously posted, all it takes is a handful of RINO´s to vote for it along will all the Dims, and it will be on it´s way to Obozo. And then the bragging about it will began in earnest.

As for handling spending cuts during the next round of debit ceiling negotiations, don´t bet the farm on it. I´m still waiting for the cuts promised to Regan, by Clinton,
and to W. Bush. If we have those spending cuts, we wouldn´t need to raise the debit ceiling again. In short, there aren´t going to be any spending cuts, now or as long as dims control the Senate and the W.H.

The RINO´s need to go too.

$615 billion taxes and $15 billion ´expense savings´? To quote Queen Nancy "Are you serious.? Are you serious?"

We are witness to the biggest con in history. The grifters in Washington DC have pulled off, once again, nothing more than trickery in order to commit theft. Just once, I wish that the Republicans would stand on their principles but they ALWAYS cave which indicates to me they have no honor. The major concern for most of these knuckleheads is considering what the vote will do to effect their chances of re-election. Every Republican should have declined the pay raise that Lord Bountiful signed by Executive Order. It may be a small gesture but by accepting a raise when we are in dire financial straits is very telling. The mindset in Washington DC is so engrained in their thinking, that nothing will change it. They are the epitome of the entitlement class. We are living under a tyrannical government not much different than that of King George III. All that is missing are the powered wigs and spiffy red coats.

I didn´t create a fiscal crisis

You didn´t create a fiscal crisis

Why do you and I have to pay for a fiscal crisis LOSERS created?

It is the first day of 2013 and I fear we will have much more of this throughout the year. Happy New Year, everybody!

This bill gets us nothing. A few billion more for these worthless politicians to spend. Obama talks about the deficit like he just got to Washington yesterday. His comments from the standard liberal playbook about how much tax cuts ´cost´ the government are typical and expected, like all income is theirs and what they let us keep is a gift. They are all a depressing bunch of incompetent arrogant fools and we are stuck with them and keep re-electing them. I am sorry to say I no longer really care what happens to this country.

Yes, let´s dump it in Boehner´s lap. If it goes down they will blame the Tea Party with clean hands and replace them with blue blooded Republicans in 2014. I wouldn´t put it past them.

This is what I´ve been hoping for in the realm of realistic hopes - staving off the tax spikes and raising the income limit from $250,000 to $400,000. I do hope and assume the House will consent; otherwise, I will write the Republicans off as idiots for sure. I cannot afford to stand on principle on this and go down with the ship.

As far as I´m concerned, little spineless mitch and the majority of senate so-called republicans can go straight to H-LL. mitch has sold us down the river once too many times. All compromise means to a democRAT is when "I drop my drawers, you kiss my butt".

vote it down then remove the delay for the previously agreed to spending cuts.

The Repugs have no credibility left for agreeing to delaying the spending cuts. Time for a new party to replace the Repugs.

God bless the Pubbies!

We can always count on them to be the tax collectors for the welfare state. This bill has $41 in tax increases for every $1 in alleged spending cuts.

Way to go, Pubbies! The welfare state will live forever!

Sounds like 90% of the senate is for more taxes and spending. Have to wonder how many of the ´no´ votes wanted more taxes and spending.

Thats what our government does. They trade legislation for votes and donations. Its like a form of prostitution. Too bad the taxpayer has to foot the bill.

Alot of people need to be reminded about the role of government.

Alot of our reps need to be fired.

Tell me where in the constitution it says that historic tax and spend bills shall be arrived at, not by our elected representatives in open and thoughtful debate in Congress, but by the Vice President and Senate Minority leader in closed room in the dark of night?

Washington is broken. I no longer trust them with my money, and don’t want any from them. Include me out.

I am now beginning to respect Obama. He fights for his beliefs; he respects his base; he uses the power he won in an election; he is not ashamed of his left wing ideology; he refuses to appear on news programs that are not friendly; he spits on the opposition; he doesn´t answer questions he doesn´t like.
Now the Republicans are a bunch of chicken #@%^&*%$ butt kissers, compromising losers; arrogant haters of the regular guy(the base); wannabe lovers of the MSM; unprincipled money hogs. Just remember republican politicians: people feed pigs, they slaughter hogs.

Unless there´s real spending cuts, kill the bill. Obama wants no part of this for a reason. Make him deal with the math. Meanwhile, his second term agenda gets buried. Let it wait.

Will Obama need a vacation now?

I have so-o little respect for the entire process and the elected officials on both sides. What kind of business rams a complex contract through in the dead of night and at the very last second! This is another case of not having time to read the bill and not finding out what is in it until after it passes. Major spending is just acquiesced to (such as green energy subsidies) because there are other major issues to fight for. That is a HUGE slush fund for Obama supporters that the Repubs just agreed to without close analysis. "We´ll give you energy and you give us milk subsidies." We will all be told "we don´t really like it, but it is the best we could do."

What company agrees to a contract that is disastrous for their business? Realizing how impossible it will be to prevail, I am getting close to wanting a 3rd party, or at least re-registering as a Conservative. The Republicans are impotent and will let you down every time.

The 47% of moochers that do not pay taxes are our problem. The Senate gives them extended Unemplyment Insurance so they need not work.