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Topic: Feinstein: All Gun Owners Should Be Registered, Fingerprinted |
Feinstein: All Gun Owners Should Be Registered, Fingerprinted
Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins
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Original Article
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/27/2012 10:51:25 PM
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| Even as news that Sen. Dianne Feinstein´s (D-CA) "Assault Weapon" ban is really a ban on some of the most popular civilian-owned handguns in the U.S., details of her promised legislation also show that it will require gun owners to register their guns with the government. Feinstein´s legislation does this by banning the import, possession, and transfer of hundreds of different weapons, but making special allowances for gun owners who already own the weapons on the ban list. On first read, the owner of an AR-15,
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
veritas, 12/27/2012 11:02:11 PM (No. 9086841)
1. Start with the First Amendment. Fingerprint all clergy and "journalists" first. 2. It takes a very special [willful, etc.] kind of stupidity to pretend "...shall not be infringed" means anything other than what it means.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
annie xango, 12/27/2012 11:09:50 PM (No. 9086848)
Is Dianne still packing???
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Northcross, 12/27/2012 11:25:48 PM (No. 9086865)
Northcross: All Senators who choose to ignore the Second Amendment should be Tarred, Feathered
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
dlta1, 12/27/2012 11:30:44 PM (No. 9086872)
Perhaps an identifying tattoo would help the authorities keep track of all these criminals. It´s for the safety of the children, after all.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jiobaobubai, 12/27/2012 11:32:11 PM (No. 9086873)
Molon Labe.
Many others on this site have said the same.
We will not be the only ones.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
engrpat, 12/27/2012 11:46:30 PM (No. 9086884)
I wonder how many unregistered guns there are in the nation. So many are handed down father to son and not registered, there must be millions. Then the question how many of the owners of these under the radar guns would willing to and get printed and raise a big flag saying come and get it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
chumley, 12/27/2012 11:51:01 PM (No. 9086890)
Go to blazes, you shriveled up old demon. You get nothing from me. You are an enemy of America and an enemy of freedom.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Safari Man, 12/28/2012 12:13:08 AM (No. 9086911)
But god forbid showing an ID to vote.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
leopardtwo, 12/28/2012 12:16:20 AM (No. 9086914)
The real plan is this: put in a new gun ban, register all guns; then, when there is another Newtown CT school incident, tell Americans that confiscation is the only answer. Listen for the knock at your door. End of Second Amendment. Liberals win.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
get er done, 12/28/2012 12:36:24 AM (No. 9086929)
Dianne, the States already regulate guns.
Under the Reserved Powers clause, Dianne should stop attempting to violate the Constitution, and tell her fellow Senators to get off of their lazy asses and pass a budget, something they have not bothered to do for years.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Japanorama, 12/28/2012 1:03:38 AM (No. 9086945)
All female senators from California should be fingerprinted.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
harper, 12/28/2012 1:34:37 AM (No. 9086956)
Just what an arguably near-bankrupt country [due to Democrat mismanagement]needs is another giant federal bureaucracy doing nothing useful at vast expense.
Canada just ended their looney-tune long gun registry after $2Billion was wasted on it. Canada has 10% of the population of America. Can America finance yet another Democrat boondoggle? Everything they touch turns to junk. Look at California, or Stab City or... etc. etc.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Ida Lil, 12/28/2012 1:35:16 AM (No. 9086957)
nancy it actually takes 2/3 rds of the states to change the constitution . May we remind the progressives do not control even half of them so pass your bill honey and wait forever for it to succeed . The same should apply to the Obamacare fiasco --30 GOP states pass their independent bills to nullify it and refuse to accept the FED´s unconstitutional blunder.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Happy Trails, 12/28/2012 1:48:16 AM (No. 9086959)
Do guns perform abortions? Perhaps we just have to expand the definition; late term, you understand. Someone wrote recently, "abort liberals to the 300th trimester". Diane is an elitist, and therefore does not have the same limitations as an ordinary citizen. She has "rights", and I suppose, she is anxious to find out their limits. If these politicians want to live in a bubble, guarded by gunmen, they might avoid the backlash for a time, but the second amendment isn´t going away, but the politician may. All tyrants and dictators want to disarm their subjects, and these gun grabbers are typical, and make themselves vulnerable to retaliation. Typical white woman with too high of an opinion of her self,I suppose. Also found this: "Those who would turn their guns into plows, will plow for those who don´t." -Thomas Jefferson
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
abiner, 12/28/2012 2:58:32 AM (No. 9086970)
I assume that dried up old prune has already registered and been fingerprinted?
I´ve always wondered why her life, and the rest of those hypocrites, is worth so much more than mine. They don´t have any trouble getting California carry permits.
Of course, California does have its standards. Because of the public safety issue, Nobody in California can get a CCW unless(s)he is 1) a politician, 2) a rock star, or 3) a left-wing movie actor. The rest of us don´t have a need.
BTW, Dianne, if I had a gun, you wouldn´t get it, no matter what laws you pass, nor would I register it. Of course that´s all academic, since I would never own anything so dangerous...
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Spidey, 12/28/2012 5:18:57 AM (No. 9087006)
The latest hoodlum fad is setting people on fire.We´re in a very sick and demented society and that´s why guns are in such high demand.
Feinstein just wants to be the champion of gun grabbing to prove she´s the queen of the far left. Her bill probably won´t even pass the senate,let alone the House.Maybe it´s all a stunt so Obama can step in with an exe. order but even those can´t repeal a constitutional right.
The left thinks they own the country right now and whatever they say,goes.In their opinion,there´s nothing to oppose them other than pockets of right wing renegades lurking in the bushes.
It´s just like the death penalty being eradicated by the left under the guise of it being inhumane.Never mind the victim of the murderers were treated inhumanely.If you fire a rocket at Israel,they should only be allowed to shoot rockets back.
The left wouldn´t even be in power except for importing foreign voters,yet they still believe the majority of people agrees with them.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bigken2, 12/28/2012 5:43:33 AM (No. 9087008)
welcome to 1935 nazi germany
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
clayusmcret, 12/28/2012 5:51:25 AM (No. 9087013)
www.congress.org
Anyone the U.S. Representative and Senators haven´t heard from is part of the problem.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Janjan, 12/28/2012 5:56:51 AM (No. 9087016)
This bill is going nowhere and Feinstein knows it. It is just the latest liberal weapon to bludgeon Republicans with. We will now not only be labeled as racist, homophobic woman haters but we also support gun violence and serial killers. The lunatics have fully taken over the asylum.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bighambone, 12/28/2012 6:34:49 AM (No. 9087031)
Most of the liberal Democrats would legalize drugs and ban all firearms in a minute. That would transform America in another way, all the drug dealers could be let out of prison to make room, and Americans who have never been criminals before would now be classified as criminals subject to long prison terms as a result of many aspects of the liberal Democrats war on firearms.
How many of the current criminal population and violent nut cases who are causing all this shooting havoc around the country are going to show up to be fingerprinted and photographed anyway?
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
FunOne, 12/28/2012 7:25:32 AM (No. 9087072)
"From my cold, dead hand" you witch.
Fun One NRA Life Member
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
stablemoney, 12/28/2012 7:26:01 AM (No. 9087074)
Liberals always imprison the innocent and defend the freedom of the criminals and terrorists.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
uno_thatguy, 12/28/2012 7:37:58 AM (No. 9087087)
DiFi needs to be fingerprinted with a hundred ton drop hammer starting at her head! It´ll take more than just a little jolt to get through all the layers of Botox!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
ole buzzard, 12/28/2012 7:39:59 AM (No. 9087089)
It will be greatly watered down, but something will pass.
I will not comply with anything that even remotely infringes on my right to defend myself from an out of control federal government.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
strike3, 12/28/2012 7:46:08 AM (No. 9087096)
All idiots should be identified by being forced to wear a tall, cone-shaped hat on their heads.
Anybody who even thinks about complying with a gun grab by this dictatorial administration had better be prepared to spend the rest of his life as a slave. I will follow the wisdom of Patrick Henry.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
antiquegolf, 12/28/2012 7:51:33 AM (No. 9087105)
Article cites that gun control advocates label their opposition as "paranoid" and "conspiratorial. " Slippery slope is another favorite gun grabber insult. I hate "slippery slope" because it is code for "paranoid. " it´s used to dismiss 2nd Amendment advocates who oppose "coexpress legitimate concerns about the incremental confiscation of individual rights.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Crosscut, 12/28/2012 7:56:29 AM (No. 9087113)
The 2nd Amendment protects citizens from the tyranny of azzho1es like Feinstein and wannabe King Georges like Obama.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
lil dotty, 12/28/2012 8:01:41 AM (No. 9087122)
Hey DiFi! How´s your gas these days? By hook or by crook, your will be done
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
antiquegolf, 12/28/2012 8:02:02 AM (No. 9087123)
Dam@ this handheld!
. . . who oppose "common sense" control legislation and express legitimate concerns about the incremental confiscation of individual rights. Now here comes feinstein and cuomo with expressions of gun grabbers inner thoughts we always knew they had. Mandatory registration? Confiscation? When that doesn´t work, what´s next, drone X-rays of all residences to locate firearms followed by a door to door roundup? Oh, sorry my paranoid side just kicked in.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
baldguy, 12/28/2012 8:12:43 AM (No. 9087136)
ok, great idea! Let´s start in Englewood first (section of Chicago, 100% black, 4-500 murders by guns each year) I´m sure they´ll gladly comply!! (oh, by the way, guns are illegal there already) But Noooo, we´ll need to start in all the law abiding suburbs first.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
larryp, 12/28/2012 8:22:57 AM (No. 9087149)
Check out haat You tube vid of larry Grathwohl, who went to the Weathermen meetings wearingawire. Hesaidthat Professor types spoke about not beingabletorun theentire USA and that chucks wouldbe consigned to the North Koreans and the REd Chinese. Andthat 25 million of the US citizes wold ave to be eliminated and aother25 million wouldbe re-educated. Check it out . Thisis what these donk lefties believe. Note that there costituency are crooksand murderes whom their attys defend and they want to let out of Jail.And arrest and confiscated lawful USA citizens. Also Read the Atlantic Mag article onthe attack on the 5th Amendment.Another one going down. There is a reason why the Freedoms were first Amendment in the Bill of Rights and the Right to bear arms and, yes, defend the freedoms was the 2nd Amendment.By design. People cry over the killing of these kids, but look at the unemplyment abuse and heavy taxes and leashed medical care and totalitarian existance that are being heaped on Americans 6yr olds by our govt.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Grace Veritas, 12/28/2012 8:23:48 AM (No. 9087150)
Quasi-criminalizing the second amendment. Substitute Muslims, Hispanics, poll workers, Acorn volunteers, rehab participants, dope customers in legal marijuana states, homeless, adolescents from single-parent households, or gays for gun owners and see if any of those pass the smell test.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Barbarian Heretic, 12/28/2012 8:26:00 AM (No. 9087155)
Well...
1) The proposed legislation is in direct contradiction to the Heller decision of 2008 establishing the 2nd Ammendment as an individual Right (which we all knew anyway).
2) The proposed legislation is being framed as an "Assault Weapons Ban"... but reading it reveals it would also ban many handguns. This is why nobody trusts politicians- particularly Lefties.
3) The last ´Assault Weapons Ban" didn´t work.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
ann, 12/28/2012 8:33:11 AM (No. 9087164)
Many of you say ´it can´t be done´....´it won´t be done´......´they can´t do that, can they´.................They can do whatever they want, because we are in the middle of their nightmare!---The people of Germany didn´t think it could happen to them, either.----We are looking at a Civil War and their side has the bigger guns.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
faith_and_reason, 12/28/2012 8:41:10 AM (No. 9087179)
We have Oath-Keepers. I suggest a new organization: "Gun-Grab Killers." Our right to own lethal weapons to defend against evil in our own communities is from God, not man. That right cannot legitimately be taken away by mere men.
Gun-Grab Killers would vow to kill the first enforcement "officer" at their door who would dare to enforce an (eternally) unlawful order to confiscate lethal weapons peacefully owned.
If enough people joined such a group (anonymously, perhaps), and if clear prior notice was delivered to every potential enforcer of unlawful orders, we might just avoid a repeat of Nazi Germany.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Red Jeep, 12/28/2012 8:43:58 AM (No. 9087182)
Use every tragedy to increase gun control.
These measures would not have prevented the latest school shooting. The perp didn´t own a gun.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy, 12/28/2012 8:48:50 AM (No. 9087190)
All elected liberals should be registered and fingerprinted.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
mrduc, 12/28/2012 8:50:46 AM (No. 9087196)
Start in the inner cities, with the gangs, DiDi. Go ahead. Let´s see ya.
Here in the Peoples´ Republik of Konnectikut, legal gun owners already ARE fingerprinted and registered. I want to see you do the same for the ILLEGAL gangmember gunowners, dumarse Didi.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
gerty, 12/28/2012 8:52:19 AM (No. 9087199)
Residents of NYS who finally get a permit for firearms ARE required to take a training course, register all owned guns and get fingerprinted.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Felixcat, 12/28/2012 8:53:27 AM (No. 9087202)
But we can´t register all the illegals in this country, right? Too onerous to track them all down and kick them out?
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
hamrman, 12/28/2012 8:57:36 AM (No. 9087205)
Let Frankenfeinstein be the first to do this process and then the rest of the self serving elitist politicans in Mordor on the Potomac!
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Mobyclik, 12/28/2012 8:58:14 AM (No. 9087207)
Think it´s bad now, wait til Comrad obama nominates his next Supreme Court choice(s). He could name Karl Marx, Saul Alinsky or Vladimir Putin and the libs and the media would fall in love with him or her. The Republicans don´t have the clankers to stop anyone obama chooses. Fact is, he´ll probably pick a minority or female to use that as a weapon against the opposition.
Once this happens (and it will) America comes to an end. Welcome to New Amerika.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
stryker714, 12/28/2012 9:00:07 AM (No. 9087209)
These mass murder shootings of late are kind of suspicious. The democrats moving with what seems to be predecided agenda IMMEDIATELY after reminds of when a married couple divorces, then one of the former spouses is already in the arms of another just a day after the divorce papers are signed. Maybe I´m wearing a tin hat but how about how many commit suicide after the shooting, leaving no spoken trail? It´s the perfect crime for democrat rats.
Someone with who is a good thinker, former leader, former military, expert in revolutionary war, needs to submit ideas of what we can do to stop these off the chain actions of an out of control gov. We need to think of an ultimatum, sign some petitions and give the Feds a compliance date. Enough is enough. Tell them to back off or else. Plus we won´t be submitting any bills to congress to get justice. The slacker DC politicians have shown all too well that is ineffective.
Gov diatribe/rhetoric nearing end of 2012 shows why they have stockpiled some much ammunition. We are under siege and they want a complete takeover. They probably plan to surrender us to China at some point as it was noted China recently poked their nose into the gun debate demanding US citizens be disarmed.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
suejeanne, 12/28/2012 9:01:00 AM (No. 9087210)
Why on earth is that dingbat a Senator in the first place?
During the Nightstalker case, she was the Mayor of SF and let the cat out of the bag about evidence police found that was helping them to link the cases (shoe prints) - so, the Nightstalker of course changed his shoes - eventually he was caught, by people in a neighborhood where he was stalking.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Coy860, 12/28/2012 9:02:13 AM (No. 9087213)
I have made it to a ripe old age as a free citizen who has never been fingerprinted. I have NO intention of being fingerprinted for any reason by the government.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
JimJr, 12/28/2012 9:12:54 AM (No. 9087228)
Answer me this, Senator Feinstein:
Will you swear, absolutely and without equivocation, that your proposed law would have prevented the Newtown murders?
Yes or no?
The citizens of the United States are waiting...
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Rumblehog, 12/28/2012 9:14:27 AM (No. 9087234)
This will mean Congress has gone too far. Even King George realized ownership of private weapons was a right in America. These tyrants need to be taught a lesson, first it was stuffing Obama-don´t-care down our throats, and now it´s making every law-abiding citizen a law-breaker through a "retro-active" law. These people are evil. If the States don´t rise up and re-establish control over the Federal, then the citizens must. It´s a right spelled out in our very Declaration of Independence.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
Grady, 12/28/2012 9:21:00 AM (No. 9087246)
If there was ever an example of why our Founding Fathers wrote the need for our 2nd Amendment Right it is right in front of us. America cannot survive until this crop of politicians are removed.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
Rumblehog, 12/28/2012 9:31:50 AM (No. 9087265)
...but we can´t round up and deport the illegal invader leeches on our tax-dollars?
Demonrats are just doing their Nazi best to make law-abiding Constitutional citizens into criminals. If they succeed then we have nothing left to lose, so we might as well water that Tree of Freedom, huh?
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
LAW428, 12/28/2012 9:34:27 AM (No. 9087266)
Registration is the precursor to confiscation. It starts here just as in all Communist countries.
The red flags are up, the warning lights are flashing! Are we going to let these enemies of America trample our Constitution and destroy our country?
Our Founders pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to preserve, protect, and defend this great country. We should do no less.
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
bugboy, 12/28/2012 9:44:09 AM (No. 9087288)
Since I have a CHL I am now what?
What they want is a totalitarian regime that will seize all weapons or make all gun owners criminals.
Australia, England have tried the gun bans only to have crime skyrocket. Canada tried the gun registration scheme that was a failure and cost the tax payers billions of dollars.
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
fljack, 12/28/2012 9:47:44 AM (No. 9087296)
Tattoo the gun owners registration number on the inside of their arm and have them be required to wear a patch on the outside of their clothing for easy identification. Those not complying and found with a firearm are subject to summary execution.
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
rmsimms, 12/28/2012 9:53:47 AM (No. 9087307)
Hate to tell you, #33....but the NFA has passed repeated challenges in court, and I doubt Scalia and the others would throw it out and effectively remove Federal controls from machineguns and silencers.
So...this has to be stopped from passing or we´ll be spending the next forty years chipping away at it.
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
kono, 12/28/2012 9:58:43 AM (No. 9087314)
In the same vein as Difi´s sweeping abuse of the Constitution here, maybe all politicians and candidates for public office should undergo a background check, eligibility-for-office verification, and mandatory sterilization.
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
Lust For Justice, 12/28/2012 10:02:24 AM (No. 9087318)
May I send ms.feinstein a message in a bit of Middle Tennessee vernacular, please:
No!!! Nor will I tell you how many guns I have or what type they are. I will not be fingerprinted, nor will my grandchildren be fiingerprinted. Also, I will not register nor allow to be registered my grandchildren´s guns. You will not be allowed to know what type they are, nor how many. Period.
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Reply 56 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 12/28/2012 10:06:37 AM (No. 9087323)
Like Obama et al., Feinstein is not the disease but a symptom of the disease. The disease is in the electorate. Its plague reservoirs are in the universities. Unless Americans reclaim their schools and universities from those who are, knowingly or not, enemies of America, the sickness may indeed be unto death.
Just as they promised they would, the Sixties radicals seized the universities and the institutions of culture. "We will get you through your children!" howled Alan Ginsburg. And they did.
All of these liberal and Leftist zombies are being manufactured right now in our schools and universities, and conservatives seem powerless to do anything about it. The battle for America has been lost at the ballot box. It can still be won in the schools and universities, but the hour is growing late. Another generation of indoctrinated voters and the republic will be history.
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Reply 57 - Posted by:
owl, 12/28/2012 10:06:46 AM (No. 9087325)
Weapons manufacturing was about the only business that was going great during King O´s first term . Is it any wonder that purchase´s have gone even higher since he got re-elected ? . Look , the socialist´s are like an Ant colony , they all work for the greater good . Feiny or whomever , it could have been any one of them . They all know weapons sales have little to do with a school and a loon . They all know as well what their King has plans for and are very worried we know too . We´re arming ourselves ahead of schedule .
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Reply 58 - Posted by:
sixtiesdude, 12/28/2012 10:08:40 AM (No. 9087328)
I have a concealed carry permit here in FLA. I was fingerprinted and passed a background check.
I also have a FLA driver´s license.
If I mess up in either area, you´ll know where to find me.
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Reply 59 - Posted by:
Butch59, 12/28/2012 10:10:15 AM (No. 9087330)
Of course there is always the old argument that "it´s the militia". They are the only ones that are allowed to own guns. Now, how many states have a "militia". Now, define militia.
Definition of MILITIA
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a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b : a body of citizens organized for military service
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: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
Looks to me like all able bodied male citizens. Or, like Dims and lawyers customarily do, do we just change the definition to suit our own needs?
My cold, dead hands!
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Reply 60 - Posted by:
suziesuburbanite, 12/28/2012 10:16:18 AM (No. 9087343)
Everyone with a carry permit has been fingerprinted.
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Reply 61 - Posted by:
nevernaught, 12/28/2012 10:20:08 AM (No. 9087355)
Does she seriously think that anyone who has an unregistered gun would trot over to a government agency and admit ownership or give one up. Especially to a government that can strip search and run a peep show at airports, listen to your phone and computer private conversations without warrants, and steal the money you earn to fund people who won´t provide for themselves. In a contest of trust, I will trust normal working people over bureaucrats every time.
The one gun that I own was registered years ago and I bought it for self defense. The Government taught me how to use weapons, although I knew how before I was 10 years old. Someone stop these political idiots before they start a civil war they can´t win.
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Reply 62 - Posted by:
RancherJack, 12/28/2012 10:21:44 AM (No. 9087362)
Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story—who it bears noting, was appointed to the Supreme Court by the guy who wrote the Constitution. Story wrote, “The right of citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”
“Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.” – Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
Ms. Feinstein is on course to be the ignition point to the second Civil War.
Think long and hard about this, Ms. Feinstein.
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Reply 63 - Posted by:
jackie, 12/28/2012 10:25:03 AM (No. 9087369)
Look DiFi...finish up your Fast and Furious mess the black AG & Pres won´t talk about... They have already started finding out where the guns are ..OBAMACARE! I was asked if I had one when they updated my records for the death panel in DC.
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Reply 64 - Posted by:
diver, 12/28/2012 10:27:57 AM (No. 9087378)
Look it will not pass.. you know it and I know it but what will they give up or change..they will agree upon somthing and our rights will be further eroded. It is simple "God given right" to won a firearm and protect ones self,family, country. It is such a simple idea. Amongst my friends this is a just a precursor to Civil War.
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Reply 65 - Posted by:
ScarletPimpernel, 12/28/2012 10:28:12 AM (No. 9087379)
#2, that´s what I would like to know. We could flood her office with requests for that information!
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Reply 66 - Posted by:
Salt5792, 12/28/2012 10:29:26 AM (No. 9087381)
Hopefully this can´t pass in the Senate, much less the House.
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Reply 67 - Posted by:
Davids918, 12/28/2012 10:40:56 AM (No. 9087402)
Great opening to demand fingerprint technology to be used for voting.
It´s unique, and those who vote more than once will be discovered.
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Reply 68 - Posted by:
chicodon, 12/28/2012 11:12:15 AM (No. 9087455)
Doesn´t always start this way?
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Reply 69 - Posted by:
uno_thatguy, 12/28/2012 11:16:18 AM (No. 9087462)
#34: "We are looking at a Civil War and their side has the bigger guns."
A Russian defector during the cold war was asked if Russia had any plans to invade the US.
He said absolutely not. They´re not afraid of the military, it´s the citizens with millions of guns they fear.
#60: It´s the "militia" that our goons in DC fear as well as the well armed citizens. Among the military both active, reserve and retired are thousands, maybe millions who would would take of command those "bigger guns" of which Ann of #34 refers. And, they would not be friendly to DC.
It will take three more generations to "indoctrinate" enough kids to implement this even in a small way, but it will happen. Then it will be the criminals that the goons in DC will fear when they take over. Those criminals will be what used to be "law abiding citizens."
God Bless America. And I thank him every day that he´s on our side!
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Reply 70 - Posted by:
O.S. Banker, 12/28/2012 11:19:28 AM (No. 9087470)
Madame Senator:
After you pry my cold dead hands from around the grip, you may take my finger prints and record them for posterity.
But don´t ever think that I will submit them willingly.
Finally, how obtuse must you be to claim the name Feinstein and advocate a policy that is straight out of 1934 Germany?
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Reply 71 - Posted by:
fljack, 12/28/2012 11:36:43 AM (No. 9087498)
Sorry for the second post, but it had to be said: Even if you fall for the militia argument (which I emphatically do not), a case can be made that We, the people who would make up the militia should have exactly the same weapons and firepower that the US Armed Services have, since the purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect We, the people against a tyrannical Federal government.
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Reply 72 - Posted by:
Barkingkangaroo, 12/28/2012 11:39:42 AM (No. 9087511)
So with the 20 year old in Conn., he used stolen guns. How would this proposed law stop violence when criminals steal legally registered guns?
Give us some legislation that would actually prevent the crimes that have been committed, and maybe then we will listen.
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Reply 73 - Posted by:
Italiano, 12/28/2012 11:40:09 AM (No. 9087512)
I wonder if Jughead´s shock troops will be that platoon of pathetic singing Fat Albert Obama Youths that we had so much fun with in 2009.
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Reply 74 - Posted by:
Safari Man, 12/28/2012 11:56:51 AM (No. 9087538)
Why not implant a tracking chip in all gun owners? Or perhaps a tattoo on gun owners foreheads? Maybe a branding iron on the neck would be a good idea?
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Reply 75 - Posted by:
gwmcclintok, 12/28/2012 12:04:24 PM (No. 9087554)
Always buy a gun face to face in your own state from an individual....you do not have to register it. Go to Armslist.com
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Reply 76 - Posted by:
wsdiego, 12/28/2012 12:43:24 PM (No. 9087609)
I guess Di-Fi thinks the government can keep guns out of the hands of criminals like they are so good at keeping drugs from criminals! Your an idiot if you think that!
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Reply 77 - Posted by:
Ray of Sunshine, 12/28/2012 12:44:23 PM (No. 9087611)
In reply to #53 - Posted by:rmsimms "...but the NFA has passed repeated challenges in court, and I doubt Scalia and the others would throw it out and effectively remove Federal controls from machineguns and silencers."
FYI: Silencers are now allowed to be sold & possessed by the ordinary citizen for hunting purposes.
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Reply 78 - Posted by:
kctiger, 12/28/2012 1:19:58 PM (No. 9087662)
Hmmm,
But you don´t have to pass an IQ to test to be in Congress!?
Or show a REAL birth certificate to be Prez!?
Or.... Oh NEVERMIND!
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Reply 79 - Posted by:
bighambone, 12/28/2012 1:33:47 PM (No. 9087677)
The huge cost of setting up and running such a massive national firearms and firearms owner registration system would clearly adversely outweigh any benefit derived from it. The Canadians found that out, and did away with the registration system that they had in Canada.
The only reason that the Democrats would want to set up such gun, and gun owner, data bases is if they intend to confiscate all firearms sometime in the future. Probably after another isolated horrific shooting by a nut case that creates another crisis for them to implement another incremental move towards banning all firearms.
Clearly the number of violent criminals and dangerous nut cases who have firearms and who would comply with the requirements of such a onerous registration system would be minuscule to non-existent. So this overreaching gun control proposal will only be a bother to law abiding gun owners, and only goes to further show that when guns are banned that only criminals will have them.
Congress should deep six this seriously over-reaching gun control proposal in favor of supporting ways to keep firearms out of the hands of the dangerous mentally ill as that´s where the problem is.
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Reply 80 - Posted by:
enemyofthestate, 12/28/2012 1:34:44 PM (No. 9087678)
Yeah, Mizzuz NotSoFeinstein, and you "should" check yourself into a clinic for drunks. Your "heat" would probably not be permitted there, though.
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Reply 81 - Posted by:
NavalAviatorRet, 12/28/2012 2:32:34 PM (No. 9087736)
Several posters have already mentioned this, but if the fools in the DC bubble seriously try and push this nonsense, they are in fact on the course to a civil war (the first was a war between the states, nothing civil about it). It´s difficult for a rational person to try and wrap your head (so to speak) around the level of ignorance of the citizenry feinstein and her cohorts display.
An earlier poster mentioned that those with a concealed carry permit had already been finger-printed. It´s a little different where I´m from; I filled out the form at the Sherrif´s office, waited about 15 mins, then paid $15 and received my permit. My wife has been able to renew it for me when I have been out of town (cost an extra $1 though).
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Reply 82 - Posted by:
peterfleming, 12/28/2012 2:39:42 PM (No. 9087749)
This frightening example of a woman has her own armed bodyguards, and like Stalin, Castro, Hitler, Chavez, all other dictators in Korea throughout the east, Commie China, elsewhere, Feinstien wants to take away private ownership, Commie Stealth Step by Commie Stealth Step. A little loss at a time. Very dictatorial. And yet, she has, what? a billion dollars from all her insider connections? Armed, and fascist, pivileged wealthy. What a disgrace.
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Reply 83 - Posted by:
glcinpdx, 12/28/2012 2:43:45 PM (No. 9087755)
Old Leatherface can go Leahey herself. The gooberment will NEVER confiscate my weapons. NRA Life Member.
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Reply 84 - Posted by:
kono, 12/28/2012 2:48:12 PM (No. 9087766)
#60 -- I must have missed where it says, "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Every copy and transcription I´ve seen of the Constitution defends that right for the people. Not the state, not the militia, not the literati... but the people. i.e., individual citizens.
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Reply 85 - Posted by:
hamrman, 12/28/2012 2:48:28 PM (No. 9087767)
I agree, let us start this process with the electorate and BAN voting fraud!
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Reply 86 - Posted by:
Udanja99, 12/28/2012 3:47:09 PM (No. 9087818)
There are numerous states that don´t require guns to be registered. Do the leftists really think that gun owners in those states are going to admit to owning guns much less agree to be fingerprinted or voluntarily turn in their guns? Idiots.
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Reply 87 - Posted by:
AnnaS, 12/28/2012 3:50:37 PM (No. 9087820)
#18 I have written to the Senators and Congressmen ad nauseum and get only canned responses. If you are not from their particular district you must use draconian measures to even send a message. It seems a waste of time.
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Reply 88 - Posted by:
4Justice, 12/28/2012 4:00:48 PM (No. 9087828)
All Senators (especially Democrat ones) should be imprisoned.
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Reply 89 - Posted by:
4Justice, 12/28/2012 4:23:55 PM (No. 9087852)
Years ago, when the site was still young, I made acquaintance with an L.dotter (who I had reason to believe had credibility) who told me about government experiments that had been taking place in California--and at the time, in San Diego. These experiments had to do with mind control. I know it sounds crazy, but there were examples that tied into a lot of the things that happened here that had never happened in other states before. Anyway, my point is...what if it´s possible that government has found a way to get to some vulnerable people and make them do these crazy things (like Sandy Hook shooting)? They could then blame the availability of guns and well...we know the rest... Is it completely farfetched? I don´t think so. We already know that these people in government don´t care about other people´s lives. They only care about power and wealth. Control is their ultimate goal.
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Reply 90 - Posted by:
Rafter, 12/28/2012 4:54:32 PM (No. 9087885)
#13, if I may... from memory... assuming you´re talking about amending the U.S. constitution...
I think it takes a two-thirds majority vote in each chamber of Congress (House & Senate),
then, following that, any proposed amendment would require ratification by three fourths of the states in order to be adopted as part of the constitution.
Just for the record. Correct me if it´s wrong.
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Reply 91 - Posted by:
mary Ellen, 12/28/2012 5:32:38 PM (No. 9087923)
I´m going to buy a gun this weekend. If I don´t do it tomorrow, I will spend next week looking for one. Any suggestions? I want a small hand gun for protection. I´m a responsible, elderly, female citizen. I want to be able to defend and protect myself.
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Reply 92 - Posted by:
osprey21, 12/28/2012 5:34:06 PM (No. 9087924)
Diane, you ignorant s!ut.
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Reply 93 - Posted by:
franq, 12/28/2012 6:30:59 PM (No. 9087966)
Find a good gun store, #92. Not a big box chain. They will advise you. Smith and Wesson makes a nice .22 revolver. Until you actually hold the gun, you really can´t make a good decision.
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Reply 94 - Posted by:
CentralFLMom, 12/28/2012 6:48:22 PM (No. 9087983)
#92 my everyday 24/7 go to weapon is a smith and weapon .357. I keep it loaded other hollow point armor piercing bullets. It makes me feel protected and feminine at the same time. Any semiautomatic assault rifle with a large capacity clip is wonderful for home protection and general piece of mind. As back up against ammo shortages, a high velocity bow with armor piercing arrows is a Godsend. Of course rocket launchers are the best protection, but you need a good dealer to find one. As a last result, and to save money, you can always hacksaw the last 12-14 inches of your 12 gauge shotgun in a pinch. This creates a fabulous and deadly weapon that is so easy transport.. God bless your decision to buy a weapon. And God help any law that takes away or restricts my rights to firearms.
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Reply 95 - Posted by:
Bobn.T, 12/28/2012 7:08:04 PM (No. 9087992)
Obviously #95 does not believe in nor support the 2nd amendment.
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Reply 96 - Posted by:
Bobn.T, 12/28/2012 7:11:03 PM (No. 9087994)
Senator Feinstein is really Senator FineSwine.
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Reply 97 - Posted by:
snakeoil, 12/28/2012 9:16:34 PM (No. 9088093)
Rarely purchase firearms. Don´t hunt. No patience. Don´t feel threatened in my daily life. But the next time I purchase a firearm it will be a private transaction or a gun show where I don´t have to fill out a form. When you purchase one from a gun store and you fill that form out you are giving your name and address to the government. In addition to repealing the 2nd Amendment and seizing guns, there are also fines, imprisonment, forced mental health clinics, etc. Also am not on Facebook or anything else that provides data to the government. Try to become the invisible man.
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Reply 98 - Posted by:
garyhope, 12/28/2012 11:37:02 PM (No. 9088159)
Check out the Gallery Of Guns Gun Genie to see what the left and Obama have done for gun and ammo sales. Through the roof. Try and buy a gun online, there are practically none available over night since the hysterical left has gone on an anti-gun rampage. President Obama and the lefty Dems, the world´s best gun salesmen and women.
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/
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Reply 99 - Posted by:
bighambone, 12/29/2012 12:21:45 AM (No. 9088191)
If this proposal by liberal Democrats were to pass it would ban almost all modern firearms being produced and sold in the US today, and would wipe out most of the small arms industry along with the other allied industries who supply just about every item you can think of relating to guns, as those industries could not survive on bidding for diminishing military contracts alone.
If that were to happen many thousands of well paying American jobs in those industries would also go down the drain.
The politicians who voted for such an overreaching gun control bill that would punish and take away the rights of tens of millions of law abiding Americans for the criminal acts of several nut jobs would in a lot of cases find it very hard to get re-elected.
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Reply 100 - Posted by:
TruthandJustice, 12/29/2012 3:01:35 PM (No. 9088931)
Hey DiFi...no guns were needed ....but your friend Kam Kuwata was taken out nonetheless ...
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