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Boehner Plan B: House
Republicans humiliate their leader

Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin

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Posted By:JoniTx, 12/21/2012 7:39:33 AM

House Republicans embarrassed their speaker Thursday night by shutting down his Plan B to protect all but millionaires from a tax hike, come Jan. 1. How close was the GOP to having enough support for Speaker John Boehner’s plan? A senior leadership aide replied glumly, “Not close enough.”The outcome stunned House leadership: In one vote (or nonvote), the all-or-nothing crowd handed the high ground back to the president, who can now rightly claim that House Republicans would rather raise everyone’s taxes than raise them on millionaires. It is a stunning miscalculation, one that allows the president and

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Johnny Angle, 12/21/2012 7:43:34 AM     (No. 9077271)

I still can´t figure out how his strategy was in any way rational.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Poca Dot, 12/21/2012 7:44:54 AM     (No. 9077273)

I like John Boehner and he is a good speaker. Plan B sucked. So far Democrats have not offered one plan. Time to go home and let the Bush tax cuts and the welfare that is in it expire. (Welfare being the child "tax credit")

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ranger Applejack Dawson, 12/21/2012 7:44:57 AM     (No. 9077274)

"House Republicans embarrassed their speaker Thursday night..." ??

I don´t think so. Seems like Boehner embarrassed hisself by tryin´ to lead what´s left of the American opposition to the Democrat Caeser by bein´ ´Liberal Lite´ instead of Reagan-principled.

Good for the Thinking Thirteen.

Like the Marines, we need a few good men - now more than ever.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: olcap, 12/21/2012 7:46:03 AM     (No. 9077276)

This humiliation should hasten the exit of this wuss from the Speaker job, which would be the greatest outcome possible.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/21/2012 7:50:18 AM     (No. 9077289)

Usually agree with Jennifer but not this time. Reid already said the plan was DOA even if it did pass,so why throw away your pledge for nothing? It´s not a defeat for Boehner but a win for conservatives.We would be dead as a party if we caved to Obama and that´s what he wanted.

Obama doesn´t get his pork Sandy bill or stimulus which $8 million of which was probably a last minute gift the GM.Obama´s going to lose if he doesn´t deliver for his donors.

They still have this plan(Obama) to print two $1 dollar platinum coins and declare their value a trillion a piece to borrow against.Congress can put any value they want on currency,not sure about Obama.Sounds crazy but this is Obama we´re talkig about and his cabal of scholars he has spread around the country´s colleges.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: AltaD, 12/21/2012 7:51:22 AM     (No. 9077292)

It doesn´t hand obama the "high ground", the media has seen to it that he´ll always have that position. It did slap down Boehner, the old guard has been put on notice and in the long run, that´s what the GOP and the country needs.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/21/2012 7:53:09 AM     (No. 9077295)

So elect an unhumiliated Speaker. We need one that fights and does not cry and introduce Nancy Pelosi´s bills.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jasper, 12/21/2012 8:03:07 AM     (No. 9077311)

Welcome to the beginning of the end for the Republican party. The far righters have doomed the conservative movement by stupidity. We will all be governed by socialists for the next fifty or so years.

We have given the government to Obama and the far leftists and didn´t even get a thank you hug.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: reilly, 12/21/2012 8:08:27 AM     (No. 9077324)


Let´s go over the cliff. Anything to change direction. With higher rates, revenues will go down and the mass migration to low tax states will go up.
Let the non-profit tycoon in the White House explain.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: moughon, 12/21/2012 8:11:56 AM     (No. 9077331)

Any deals made should have "sustainable" proposals from both sides.

I would love to see a new speaker who is willing to hold America together while we get control of the argument.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Janjan, 12/21/2012 8:13:43 AM     (No. 9077336)

They aren´t there to support John Boehner. They are there to represent the American people.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: rinohunter, 12/21/2012 8:14:18 AM     (No. 9077337)

Several thoughts come to mind:
1.) Who is this Jennifer Rubin? She´s supposed to me the conservative voice in the Washington Compost? Her drivel is worthy of the dung pile! An absolute Liberal Demoncrat masquerading as a Republican. I don´t know why I wasted 5 minutes reading her lies, distortions and fictional editorializing.
2.) Bring it ON!!! Purple-Lipps/Harry a-whole Reid! I´m willing to suffer the few months or year with the higher tax rate so long as the Republicans daily, obsessively SPEAK UP that Purple-Lipps/Harry a-whole are fully, 100%, completely to blame for this tax hike! But unfortunately Boner and company may be incapable to such broadcasting.
3.) The Tea-Party/Heritage Foundation etc. have done Boner a favor, contrary to Mz. Rubinsteinberg (D - Washington Compost) irrational, idiotic scribing. Let Purple-Lipps/Harry a-whole own this, just like they own the ACA healthcare bag-o´-doodoo!
It is at the point where 5x,xxx,xxx Americans that put this embarrassment into the WH enjoy the fruit of their labors. I´m willing to bet that many if not most will not be happy with their higher everything coming their way thanks to Purple-Lipps/Harry a-whole and Queen Piglosi´s work in the Congress since 2006!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/21/2012 8:35:23 AM     (No. 9077374)

John Boehner believes he became Speaker of the House because he is so wonderful. Not so. He is Speaker because he outlasted everyone since the party deposed Newt Gingrich AND because 38 tea partiers voted to elect him Speaker in 2011.

I am sick and tired of his mealy mouth blubbering over who-knows-what, and his absolute inability to coherently explain anything Conservative. Off with his head (figuratively, of course) and let the House elect someone who is at least just 1% smarter than Obama.

We knew he was trouble right after his election in 2011 when he did not even consider the Tea Party (who put him there) for really great assignments, but rather installed the Old Guard GOP and paid rather thin lip service to the Tea Party across the country.

Bye-bye, John, don´t let the door hit you on the way out!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: noproblems, 12/21/2012 8:52:56 AM     (No. 9077397)

again, tell me how our taxes on not going up in 2013? The repugs have no idea how to play a tactical game. Rejecting this deal was beyond stupid.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/21/2012 8:54:11 AM     (No. 9077402)

The liberals and the elite Republicans have been attacking the TEA party almost from the beginning.
TEA party stands for Taxed Enough Already.
TEA party stands for strict interpretation of the Constitution. Believe in the Constitution and we will lead this country to prosperity once again.
Ignore it at your peril.
Were our Founding Fathers FAR right extremists? I think not.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: CaptainLibra, 12/21/2012 9:05:41 AM     (No. 9077427)

So which Pub is on deck waiting to take over the Speaker´s job? Is there anyone who could pull this dispirited group back together? Name one.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Aindyin, 12/21/2012 9:15:35 AM     (No. 9077442)

Hahahahha

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Reply 18 - Posted by: JAN, 12/21/2012 9:44:51 AM     (No. 9077510)

Thank you loud mouthed conservatives demanding purity

Evidently they choose to ignore the fact that we lost the election.

They think it´s some kind of game that we can win if we let the country slip back into recessing. Then they can say it´s all hte President´s fault.

They can well afford this game. Most of us cannot afford to bring home smaller paychecks.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Aindyin, 12/21/2012 9:51:04 AM     (No. 9077530)

Hey Jennifer Rubin your free to wrote a check to the government. Funny how you have nothing to say about Reid failing to pass a budget or vote on any of the bills sent to him. I expect someday I will read an piece from you crying about how much in tax you pay.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: navybrat, 12/21/2012 10:03:00 AM     (No. 9077560)

Republicans lost the White House but kept the House. I am tired of whining, weak Republicans rolling over for Obama. The press hates conservations and they will always blame them try to put them in a bad light no matter what. I say refusing to vote for a bad dem plan B was a good thing.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: right-turn, 12/21/2012 10:16:02 AM     (No. 9077589)

Boehner humiliates Republicans in the House. The headlines have it wrong.

When will they ever learn that we cannot spend more and more and more. Cut spending then current taxes will be enough.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Tusker, 12/21/2012 10:23:08 AM     (No. 9077612)

Incredible!

It´s not the TP that´s driven th US to financial ruin.

The demonkratic communist socialist party , whose head is Bow-boy, that has driven this country , and continues to do so, to financial ruin.

The DCSP, not the patriots, not the TP! It´s no longer business as usual. Down with Bow-Boy and his despicable DCSP.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/21/2012 10:30:59 AM     (No. 9077633)

FTA "The House has already passed legislation to stop all of the January 1 tax rate increases and replace the sequester with responsible spending cuts that will begin to address our nation’s crippling debt. The Senate must now act.”

Boehner is correct in the quote above. Instead of conceding on taxes, he should have passed those same bills again.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: horacer, 12/21/2012 10:37:26 AM     (No. 9077650)

The tax plan is likely the best we could do with only the House.

The Speaker´s the problem. You don´t announce a new plan which raises taxes on even a few at the last minute. His caucus ran on no new taxes. Now he expects them to fall in line without a chance to explain the plan to their constituents? Why should they let Boehner throw them under the bus, especially after his horrendous performance during the debt ceiling talks last summer.

Pass a 90 day CR keeping everything in place and start over. Keep Plan B, but let your members go home and try to explain it to the voters. Then see if you can pass it.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 12/21/2012 10:52:56 AM     (No. 9077697)

Boehner humiliated himself.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: mythman, 12/21/2012 11:04:28 AM     (No. 9077732)

The Repubs who do support Boehner are going to be joined by Dems and they will outnumber the Tea Party reps.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mws50, 12/21/2012 11:12:43 AM     (No. 9077752)

#17, Ted Poe.

And the House has the power to set taxes, spend money, and regulate the executive departments. Why give up that power because a bunch of anti-American socialists demand it?

We need spending cuts! And a penny out of every budget dollar is a VERY minor start to reducing the bloated federal bureaucracy.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: god of irony, 12/21/2012 11:21:20 AM     (No. 9077783)

This was a vote of no confidence for Boehner. He should step down as speaker.

#19 feel free to pay more taxes than you are required by law. All you have to do is make a check out to US Treasury and give to the finance office in your nearest government office.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: forward, 12/21/2012 11:22:32 AM     (No. 9077789)

This is the same Jennifer Rubin who attacked every conservative nominee for the Presidency, one by one, attacked them hard and told us all that only the moderate Mitt Romney could defeat BHO. Is it safe to say that some of us were right?!

This is her thing - she is a centrist Repub who has contempt for conservatives. If you want to talk humiliation, how about the way that Boehner stripped conservative House members of their committee assignments and then expected them to rally behind his Plan B which had zero chance - zero - of going anywhere beyond the House if it even passed in the House.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mathman, 12/21/2012 11:53:32 AM     (No. 9077880)

She has it exactly backward.
Boehner embarrassed the Republican Party by presenting legislation which comes from liberal Democrats.
Either he presents a 3 for 1 plan: $3 in actual spending CUTS for each $1 in taxes, or he does not. If there are no actual cuts, then it is not a plan.
The government is bloated. The government is spending money which it does not have. This is evil.
It is time for the Tea Party to rise up in wrath.
Let us go Reagan.

Death to big government!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: lylacat, 12/21/2012 12:14:15 PM     (No. 9077935)

Boehner has never been a leader. Boehner needs to go.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 12/21/2012 12:42:58 PM     (No. 9078007)

Let´s go over the cliff - lots of people will learn that "the wealthy" as in "Bush tax cuts for the wealthy" included them. Second, more people will have some skin (i.e. pay taxes) in the game. Finally, the Republicans should stand up and say, "the US has been living beyond its means for a long time. Now it is time to pay the piper. Either cut spending or be prepared to pay even higher taxes."

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