A Message From Lucianne  







S-G1




























ST-GC



        
 

 
Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


  Topic: ´I Am Adam Lanza´s Mother´: A Mom´s
Perspective On The Mental Illness
Conversation In America
Change your user profile.
If you are having trouble posting, please take the time to register.
Your User Name :
Your Password
  I forgot my password
Your Reply  :
Preview Reply     Post Reply
´I Am Adam Lanza´s Mother´: A Mom´s
Perspective On The Mental Illness
Conversation In America

Blue Review, by Liza Long

Original Article

Posted By:f64, 12/16/2012 11:09:34 AM

Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, my 13-year old son Michael (name changed) missed his bus because he was wearing the wrong color pants. (Snip) I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me. A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me (Snip)His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan -- they ran to the car and locked the doors
This very important blog is posted with special permission of staff.

Comments:
America is inundated with mentally ill people like these. Parents are terrified and try to cope in any way they can. Institutions have closed down, HIPAA law thwart parent once the children turn 18.
What was the cause of the Lanzas divorce? The papers Nancy Lanza filed said "NO" to "Parental Problems" but I doubt it. Why did she suddenly become a gun enthusiast soon after her divorce? Why weren´t non-family ever invited into her house? I say she was scared and trying to cope.

      


Post Reply  

Reply 1 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/16/2012 11:34:31 AM     (No. 9069139)

We do keep seeing situations where parents are having to care for their mentally disabled offspring because there are no other options for them. While the idea of the government forcibly institutionalizing people is abhorrent to me, it would be very helpful if family members had some options.

How many mentally ill people are in prison now because the institutional caregiving option was not available to their families? Thank you again, ACLU.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    39 persons like this.


Reply 2 - Posted by: LComstaff, 12/16/2012 11:35:08 AM     (No. 9069141)

Bad link.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    36 persons like this.


   

 

R-G1
  
R-VAR_AD


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: LComStaff, 12/16/2012 2:45:09 PM     (No. 9069416)

Link has been repaired.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    37 persons like this.


Reply 4 - Posted by: JoniTx, 12/16/2012 2:53:40 PM     (No. 9069427)

An amazing story. Plus, the comments are equally amazing. Highly recommend reading it all.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: chumley, 12/16/2012 2:57:34 PM     (No. 9069430)

My heart weeps for this woman, and every parent of a child so afflicted. Every day must be a walk through hell with no end in sight. Regular teenagers are trying enough.
I´m sure more facts will come out, but I am curious why Adam Lanza was able to access his mother´s weapons. Did he break them out of a locked container or was she in a state of denial over her son´s condition and they were unlocked? Or did she really not think it was as bad as it was?
Regardless, we should not lose sight of who pulled the trigger. That is where the blame lies.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    31 persons like this.


Reply 6 - Posted by: JLoophole, 12/16/2012 2:57:50 PM     (No. 9069431)

I saw this on my FB page and it sent chills down my spine. Thank you Lucianne and staff for posting it. It´s not about the gun control question. It´s about the state of mind of Adam Lanza and so many like him.

Read what this mom says about what she did with the knives. Why was Adam Lanza allowed anywhere near a gun?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    52 persons like this.


Reply 7 - Posted by: blueline, 12/16/2012 3:04:08 PM     (No. 9069435)

This is one of the most important pieces that you will read. Trust me when I say that multitudes of families are struggling to deal with these situations, and law-enforcement/criminal justice resources are being depleted with no visible improvement. The jails have become the new "mental hospitals", minus the needed level of care, increased violence, and a revolving door that spins like a vortex.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    31 persons like this.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: smcchk, 12/16/2012 3:20:28 PM     (No. 9069443)

My daughter teaches special Ed In an elementary school. There are many behavioral problem children there. She has ducked chairs being hurled across the room, she can put a child in a restraining hold, she knows self defense moves. And she´s dealing with 1st, 2nd and 3rd graders! I keep thinking how do people handle the older, bigger ones? And how do the families cope? Why won´t America deal with mental disease? Thanks, lawyers and politicians, for that.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    24 persons like this.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Bettysez, 12/16/2012 3:28:00 PM     (No. 9069460)

Our former mental health system was broken up because liberal groups said that people should not be locked up if they have not committed a crime. There was talk about having them, instead, in homes in normal communities where they could get treatment but be free to go and come as they please. You want that next door to your house? It never happened. A lot of this is because of the stigma attached to any brain behavior problems. Once you understand when the brain is haywire, you know that they must be confined for our safety and theirs. They are suicidal. Of course you can take guns away from the law-abiding people, and carry all your knives in a container wherever you go. And take karate lessons to protect yourself from your full-grown adult son. Lock-down mental facilities are the only way to go, but gun control is easier and cheaper.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    30 persons like this.


Reply 10 - Posted by: dman, 12/16/2012 3:31:25 PM     (No. 9069465)

A must read on several levels. From her cry, along with FNC´s Keith Ablow and others, for mental health system reform to her attempt to walk the "fine line" in dealing with a son whom she loves but who needs the right kind of help, this is a most moving piece. Prayers and sympathy go to her and all in her situation.

Add to that the media´s obsessive coverage of these tragedies, enabling the shooters to have the moment in the sun that they seek, and our corrupt legal system that shields them before their final act-out, and the problem grows worse. Then there is our age of adulthood that shuts down parental authority at age 18 and inhibits intervention in cases like these and others like "simple" substance abuse. Much of what help exists for parents ends at age 18. Many of these incidents occur in the early 20´s. Coincidence? I think not.

We have much to think about. Let´s keep it in perspective, however. We have a Republic heading towards collapse with a defacto Dictator already in place.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    36 persons like this.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Judy W., 12/16/2012 3:32:39 PM     (No. 9069466)

I see that someone in the comments at the article blamed Ronald Reagan for closing mental hospitals in California. Closing the mental hospitals was a movement started by liberals in the 1960, under the influence of psychiatrists like R.D. Laing who believed there was no such thing as mental illness, only different behavior. Ken Kesey was also influential with "One Flew Over the Cuckoo´s Nest," which had a similar message, with the additional idea that the hospitals were places of mistreatment. The hospitals were closed in every state; it was federal policy, and community mental health centers were set up in their place. Somehow it was believed that mentally ill people could be placed into the community and line up for meds once a week and they would be just fine.

The results have been with us for decades: lost, mumbling homeless people on the streets; halfway houses making previously decent neighborhoods into dangerous slums; psychotics harassing people at the minimum or as in this case mass-killing them; families in despair over their mentally ill children. Thanks, liberals. And don´t expect this to get any better under Obamacare.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 12 - Posted by: mamafrog, 12/16/2012 3:40:25 PM     (No. 9069473)

I read this blog post earlier this morning. I thought some of the comments posted below it were also very odd. I would hope one thing we can all agree on is that mentally ill individuals do not need to have access to fire arms.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    39 persons like this.


   

 

B-G1


 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Sheepfarmer, 12/16/2012 3:43:23 PM     (No. 9069479)

Thank you for posting this. It is haunting.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    35 persons like this.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Cooling Saucer, 12/16/2012 3:47:27 PM     (No. 9069484)

This is an excellent piece -- thank you Ms Lucianne and staff for giving the ok for posting.

Here is a link to another excellent piece, this one from the NYTimes -- there are a lot of seriously disturbed children out there:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/magazine/can-you-call-a-9-year-old-a-psychopath.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    45 persons like this.


Reply 15 - Posted by: pros7767, 12/16/2012 3:50:38 PM     (No. 9069489)

I have dealt with the mentally ill and their families in law enforcement. The lack of options are truly heartbreaking. From individuals being conned into doing things by their peers to parents begging for help, there are no resources in place for them.

The comments after the article can be disturbing because many show the complete lack of awareness of the issue. Unless and until you have lived it or dealt with it, you have no right commenting on the parenting, with the only exception being that if these issues exist in your home, there should be no guns, imho.

These societal issues need to be addressed. There are no easy solutions. However, until we get off the anti-gun agenda, the underlying problems will never be fixed.

My heart goes out to all of the families that tragically have to deal with these issues on a daily basis as well as to the families of their victims when things go horribly wrong.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    30 persons like this.


Reply 16 - Posted by: maisy, 12/16/2012 3:59:38 PM     (No. 9069500)

I haven´t read but the first paragraph. Because as a sibling of two paranoid schizophrenics I could have written it. The ages beteen the two are relevant as Sheila was maybe 30 years older than John. Due to that she received "better" mental health care than he did.If by that you mean isolation, shock treatments and any new treatent that they could throw at her. I became her guardian after my mothers death and she was "lucky enough" to be severely chronically schizophrenic at at time when medications were only just coming into vogue. As a result when deinstitutionalization happened she was eventually placed in a nursing home as unable to care for herself. By the time John became ill -some 20 years later-- the wonderful ACLU stepped in to insure that the insane remain insane. I still remember the harrowing rides to the hospital for my mother with Sheila trying to jump out of the car... The dr E Fuller Torrey has written extensivly about the neglect of the mentally ill of which many are the homeless. As he says if they had cancer or brain tumors would they still be allowed to wander around without any medical help? So if you want to thank someone most responsble fo this chaos blame the ACLU.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    25 persons like this.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Mrs.Claypool, 12/16/2012 4:06:54 PM     (No. 9069512)

Thank you for posting this article. There are really no options, once they turn 18. You hear things like, "How old are they? Sorry, we can´t help you, they are over 18, they have ask for themselves." You try your best, and then eventually have to step back. They either make it or you helplessly watch them fall. God help all who have to walk this path.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


   

 

R_DBL_B
  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: Bettysez, 12/16/2012 4:08:00 PM     (No. 9069514)

Thank your #17 for your comment. I remember when this happened & arguing with a very liberal teacher when a story came out about what some were doing in public. She said they had ´rights.´ I asked her if she would be happy about her mother´s defecating at the entrance of a store, it was her ´right´ and that shut her up--well, for the moment. Sadly, personally, I have dealt with someone´s brain disorder on a different plane, but it did involve the police, wrestling and handcuffs, finally involuntary commitment to a locked down mental facility, tragic no matter the cause.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 19 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 12/16/2012 4:11:42 PM     (No. 9069519)

In the article the author states that we need to have a national dialogue. If only we could. We had a national dialogue some years ago and the liberals won. Insane asylmns were closed and the insane turned loose and expected to take their medicine faithfully. First, they are not responsible enough to do that and second, even those who want to do so sooner or later give the medicine up vecause of the swide effects. The great liberal experiment has failed.

Despite that failure we cannot have this conversation again. Liberals never admit a mistake. The subject is closed. They won.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    35 persons like this.


Reply 20 - Posted by: SteelTurman, 12/16/2012 4:23:17 PM     (No. 9069540)

" ... Liberals never admit a mistake. The subject is closed. They won... "

And we all lose.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    33 persons like this.


Reply 21 - Posted by: Axeman, 12/16/2012 4:27:50 PM     (No. 9069558)

As good as this article is, I must totally disagree with the premise, "I am Adam Lanza´s Mom". Not just literally. I haven´t read anything yet about a relationship like this between Adam and his mother. In fact, the amount of misleading information, "suffered from Asperger´s, ticking time bomb, always had pens in his pocket, kept to himself, different," is very dismaying. There are millions of kids out there who fit this profile and have never, and will never, go crazy like Adam did.
I have a lot more thoughts on this incident but I am going to wait for the real information to come out.
The mother´s issues in this article are very real for her and I will pray for her.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    32 persons like this.


Reply 22 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 12/16/2012 4:36:25 PM     (No. 9069575)

#24..True...but they are in charge, God help us all the inmates are running the assylum.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    34 persons like this.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/16/2012 4:36:37 PM     (No. 9069576)

#25: I agree. There´s a lot of speculation about the Lanza´s that doesn´t have any evidence.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    33 persons like this.


Reply 24 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 12/16/2012 4:44:23 PM     (No. 9069596)

Speaking of mental problems: Sen. Dianne Feinstein has threatened to introduce ´assault weapons ban´ legislation in the next US Congress. Is the good Senator aware that the real problem is mental illness? Is she also aware that there are millions of guns in the hands of US citizens, any one of which, when stolen can be used by a maniac to perform the same criminal that Lanza did in CT?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    27 persons like this.


Reply 25 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 12/16/2012 4:57:21 PM     (No. 9069632)

While I don´t think one parent or another is the perfect solution to addressing what is clearly some kind of brain disorder, I notice that there´s no mention of the boy´s father anywhere in this article. Not that the mere presence of another parent will "shape him up" and "give him the swift kick he needs", because this boy has severe mental health problems. However, a father would help calm and restrain him and model appropriate behavior for him.

Families are stronger when two parents rear the children. The need for two parents is even more critical when a child in the family suffers from a disability.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    27 persons like this.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/16/2012 5:04:35 PM     (No. 9069642)

Familiarity with the Community Mental Health Centers Act of 1963 is essential for anyone trying to understand the terrible dilemma of this mother and countless parents like her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act provides a concise summary.

It is not at all clear that the Sandy Hook killer presented the obvious danger to others of Liza Long´s mentally disturbed son, or that lack of resources or treatment or irrational legal constraints on involuntary hospitalization would have prevented the Sandy Hook massacre - but that there are many, many families facing problems very much like Liza Long is undeniable. And though it becomes tedious to blame liberals for everything that is wrong in society, they must bear a large load of responsibility for the 1963 legislation that had the unintended consequence of converting the nation´s penal system into its largest and most effective mental health provider for the gravely mentally ill.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    36 persons like this.


Reply 27 - Posted by: trapper, 12/16/2012 5:11:16 PM     (No. 9069653)

I couln´t help but to see a connection. Not between this article and the recent shooting, but between the recent shooting, this article, and all the street shootings in Chicago.

Lanza and this woman´s son were both brought up by caring parents who tried to get them help. But what of those who aren´t brought up at all? What happens to mentally ill or damaaged children on the south side of Chicago with mothers who can´t be bothered to feed them, let alone get them mental health treatment? Does their lack of control result in their becoming street murderers at age 12? Gang enforcers at age 14?

It´s easy to refer to the teenagers killing people in the ghetto as "animals," but how do we know we aren´t looking at the very same issue? Why is one a moral issue, and the other a mental health issue?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 28 - Posted by: f64, 12/16/2012 5:23:23 PM     (No. 9069671)

Thank you, LcomStaff for fixing the link. #12, we lived this too. From mid-teens to mid-20´s was hell on earth for us. He´s 34 now and out on his own. Can´t keep a job because he can´t stay on his meds. Gets SSDI, food stamps, Medicaid and whatever he can scrounge doing day work. Sees a counselor once a month, gets a shot of something and a script for Wellbutrin, Abilify, Depakote or whatnot. He tells us he´s Bipolar, sound proud of it. Maybe that´s the best one in the DSM-IV. He may or may not fill the script depending whether or not he needs the co-pay money for beer or smokes.
There´s nothing I can do for him, nothing that will do any good, that is.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 29 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 12/16/2012 5:28:28 PM     (No. 9069678)

To what Poster#11 said: In the late 1980´s this movement landed in Tennessee. It was under a Developing Application of "Patient´s Rights´. The State started closing down residential Mental Health Facilities.Most, admittedly, were older and lacking in maintenance dollars. As D.H.S. closed facilities and moed to set up ´12 Step Programs´ not for the Menlally Handicapped, but to capture dollars for Drug Rehabilitation. They operated a program to get the long term mentally ill patients back to their families. They would literally call up a family and tell them they were releasing their family member and that that patient would arrive at a location near their home of record by bus, at a specific time. If they were met at the Bus Station, they became the Family´s problem, if they were not met by their family, they became, usually a problem for the local Police Dept. At any rate the Patient was no longer a problem for Tn. D.H.S.
I know this was how my family was threatened ( and Threatened after each visit to the Hospital to visit or daughter; My adopted daughter was hospitalized by a Court Order, because we were unable to continue, due to a lack of assets and withdrawal of my insurance´s Mental Health Benefits, to care for her in home. Several times we had awakened in our dark bedroom to find our 17 year old standing along side our bed holding a butcher knife. We had to go to Juvenile Court and formally surrender to the State our Parental Rights, so she could be hospitalized in a State Hospital and receive the 24 hr. Custodial Care she needed.



  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    41 persons like this.


Reply 30 - Posted by: Aria, 12/16/2012 5:28:57 PM     (No. 9069679)

I know someone with the exact same problem - the son exhibited signs from an extremely early age. He is highly intelligent, threatened his mother, siblings and pets- she had to hide the knives and had trouble keeping babysitters. She took him to doctor after doctor and not until he got to UCLA where he was "washed" of the meds he was on that weren´t working and put on something else has he exhibited stable behavior. However, he has not yet reached puberty.

The mother told me that she was afraid someday he would be a "Columbine kid". She´s having a hard time in the last few days - I´m sure it´s a constant worry about the meds continuing to work.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    37 persons like this.


Reply 31 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 12/16/2012 5:30:57 PM     (No. 9069680)

They used to have facilities (lock down) for these kids. I worked at one. Ages 12 and up. Boys and girls. The kids were very difficult to manage ... and very dangerous. Truly, no one knew what to do with them. It was all experimental. Nothing worked. I didn´t follow their progression and so can´t say what became of them. Michael would have fit right in with the group. I think these facilities were closed - funding issues. They were useful. The kids had to have a record but then were opted in to the facilities when faced with long term incarceration. The woman is right she needs help.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    30 persons like this.


Reply 32 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 12/16/2012 5:35:57 PM     (No. 9069687)

#33,

I hope I didn´t imply that two parents would solve the problem of mental illness, because nobody can do that. However, each parent would help the other to cope. They´d be able to take turns giving attention to other family members and family matters. That isn´t much, and it doesn´t mean that there won´t be tremendous sacrifices in the family as a whole.

There´s no easy, pat solution to any of this. I´m just glad I´m not reading any posts that claim kids like Adam and Michael will be magically cured by a good whuppin´.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    31 persons like this.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/16/2012 5:44:15 PM     (No. 9069695)

Teachers and parents of mentally ill children are painfully aware of something called mainstreaming. It is the educational equivalent of the 1963 Community Mental Health Centers Act - and it is, as usual, the brain child of the liberal establishment.

The concept is simple. It consists of pretending that seriously disturbed children are not THAT bad, and placing them in regular classrooms with their "peers." This of course means denying them the specialized attention and care that they need.

Those familiar with such mainstreaming know that it can result in ludicrous, almost unimaginable classroom situations. I have always wondered why an expose´ of this pernicious practice has never been done.

The reason liberal fantasy ideology is called fantasy ideology is that it is a determined, indeed almost insane attempt to force reality to conform to the wishful thinking of liberals. The principal thing is for the liberal to feel good. If reality presumes to intrude and object, so much the worse for reality. If not for the negative and sometimes tragic results of this make-believe approach to life, it would be hilarious.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 34 - Posted by: tgoggin, 12/16/2012 5:45:22 PM     (No. 9069697)

I am an OBGYN, who delivered a baby in our town similar to Newtown two years ago. Two weeks after she and her husband went home with their newborn, her young brother with Asberger´s shot his mother and two sisters, killing my patient, the mother of the two week old. The other two survived. Shocked our community.

Tom Goggin, MD
Athens, GA

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    29 persons like this.


Reply 35 - Posted by: Rafter, 12/16/2012 5:54:41 PM     (No. 9069707)

This is a very longstanding problem, going back to the 1970´s and beyond.

In the mid-´70´s I went to a social occasion at a house in a Boston suburb.

The young gents who were throwing the party and co-renting the house we were at told the story...
of the prior tragic tenants.

The statue in the yard was made by the mentally ill son. It was weird.

When the son got out of a mental hospital, he came home and slaughtered his parents.
In the bedroom you could see splots of blood on the ceiling.

Macabre but true tale.
Gotta run, sorry.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    30 persons like this.


Reply 36 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/16/2012 5:54:54 PM     (No. 9069708)

Ronald Reagan was a great man, but he was not perfect. His closing of the state mental hospitals was a mistake. What the Brits would call "a blot on his copybook". His doing it influenced other states to do it.

Regardless of what we think of RR - and I was a supporter and an admirer - this was his mistake and we are still living with it across the country.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    28 persons like this.


Reply 37 - Posted by: Tulsa, 12/16/2012 5:58:06 PM     (No. 9069712)

In Columbia, SC there is a gentleman called The Cardinal. He dresses in what appears to be a Cardinal´s ?vestments. He is a patient of Cola Area Mental Health.

The administrators and health officals there are dedicated. They do an excellent job given the funds, facilities and laws.

If a teenager can be persuaded to sign up with CAMH then if a meltdown occurs, CAMH can and will commit the patient IF there is room at a facility and will help with costs if not provide medication. (This is once private ins. and private funds are exhausted.)

There are also many citizens that give patients jobs.

The key is always the willingness of the patient to take meds and understand the situation. Many are lucid enough to do this. Unfortunately many are lucid enough, but do not wish to change their behavior. And many are too ill. It is a mistake to lump mental illness and degress of it into one category.

God bless and help every single soul touched by this.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 38 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/16/2012 6:09:28 PM     (No. 9069724)

As the comment above says, America is inundated with all sorts of mentally ill people. Many are on their own without adequate mental health treatment and are protected by the medical privacy laws.

While only a small percentage may be very dangerous, often because of the medical privacy laws mental health professionals and law enforcement have little or no information sharing protocols regarding mental cases who may be very dangerous, until after serious crime is committed when it is too late.

Remember mentally ill people can vote in the USA, and you can safely bet that most all who do vote cast ballots for liberal Democrats. For that reason liberal Democrats shy away from ever blaming a obviously mentally ill perpetrator when a mass shooting occurs. Instead they blame conservative Republicans citing some non-germane statement or comment taken completely out of context, and of course blame guns which is a pretty safe bet for liberal Democrat politicians because guns can´t vote.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    31 persons like this.


Reply 39 - Posted by: jasmine, 12/16/2012 6:24:05 PM     (No. 9069744)

Look up deinstitutionalization to understand why emptying mental hospitals was such a seductive idea, especially to liberals who thought they were doing very sick people a favor. New drugs of the day were supposed to revolutionize treatment. Unfortunately, patients were not nearly as compliant about taking those medications once they were released. The national movement to shut down mental hospitals began long before Ronald Reagan was governor.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    34 persons like this.


Reply 40 - Posted by: LadyHen, 12/16/2012 6:28:23 PM     (No. 9069756)

My husband´s and my reaction to this sad situation was one and the same "And his father is.... where exactly?"

While I understand that true mental illness effects people from intact and broken homes and has a multitude of contributing factors some of which no one not even the patient has any control over, I don´t think that simply passing over with a wave of a hand the trauma of divorce and then the resultant single parents homes on the psyche of developing children is particularly honest. I am not trying to be callous, just realistic. The mom in this blog is an admitted single mother of 4 children. This is too much for any one person to handle and fathers are needed by their sons, this is a fact that has been shoved out of sight by the feminist brigade for so long. How many of these mentally ill children have been dragged through the horror of divorce or have never had 2 loving committed parents active in their lives? If that isn´t a mental health minefield, I don´t know what is.

I am not saying that divorce is a cause of mental illness but I would assume a stressor of that magnitude on a vulnerable developing brain, personality, and character could cause a great many problems. Mix in some brain chemistry altering medications, the long term effects could be horrific.

And yes, I have family experience with teenage "mental illness" that in the end turned out to NOT be mental illness. My family member will forever be scarred with the stigma and record of institutionalized "mental illness" due to his selfish, thoughtless, self absorbed, controlling mother deciding to use this abusive system to absolve herself of the responsibility of parenting.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    32 persons like this.


Reply 41 - Posted by: Starlady, 12/16/2012 7:00:35 PM     (No. 9069784)

This could have been written by me twenty years ago. I was going through divorce and my thirteen year old son was acting out as a result. I heard the same thing from law enforcement, "no help unless he breaks the law." He was out of control, but he was not mentally ill, just hurt and angry.
We all survived. For many years I felt I had been through WWIII as a parent.
Her blog brought me back to the pain and fear of that time, and my son was not mentally ill, but he was stronger than I and out of control.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    32 persons like this.


Reply 42 - Posted by: lizzee1, 12/16/2012 8:16:57 PM     (No. 9069844)

As a para who worked in special ed for many years, I ould tell the woman that each day she drops Michael off at school costs all the other kids in his class the chance to learn in a calm and safe evironment. The school day becomes a drama on steroids. Some kids need to be institutionalized. Sorry.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    35 persons like this.


Reply 43 - Posted by: Jane E, 12/16/2012 8:30:52 PM     (No. 9069850)

There is no easy answer concerning patients´ rights and privacy vs. locking these people up. I personally know several nurses whose lives were ruined by mentally ill patients attacking them. Their careers were ended, and they lived their remaining years with considerable chronic pain. I believe that each person in jail should be safe, in their own personal cell, and stay there all day. Maybe we should have bare bones prisons for the truly criminal,(since they deserve punishment, after all) and nicer and somewhat luxurious jails for the super crazy people that are violent.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    33 persons like this.


Reply 44 - Posted by: BorninOKC, 12/16/2012 9:10:00 PM     (No. 9069887)

Is it true that more people were killed by people wielding baseball bats than by guns? It is easy to say pass gun control laws but that will not protect first graders from someone twice as old given to violence.

This is the situation the liberals have made.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    40 persons like this.


Reply 45 - Posted by: Old Army Vet, 12/16/2012 10:19:43 PM     (No. 9069950)

Thank you Mario Cuomo. You turned out the mentaly ill in New York. You and your liberal buddies are responsible for the situation in Newtown Ct. You don´t care about the safety of citizens, just your ego.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    37 persons like this.


Reply 46 - Posted by: Bartemis, 12/17/2012 12:06:49 AM     (No. 9070067)

Thank you for posting this, Lucianne. We were lucky that my brother was generally easy-going by nature, and even luckier eventually to have managed to find him a good home with others in his situation where he is supervised by people trained to deal with his affliction. But, there was a period there where we were at our wits´ ends. Reading this woman´s account, I can only despair for those who had it so much worse than we, and ours was bad enough to destroy our family.

People who have never lived it think these people are just quirky, or irresponsible, or something, and could be forced to straighten up and fly right with proper parenting or authority. It just isn´t like that at all. They are unable to process reality, and most are no longer capable of functioning in regular society, even with treatment, and hopelessly incapable without it. My brother was captain of his track team, was dating the homecoming queen, and was expected to far outpace his lesser siblings before his first psychotic break. It was not a slow descent, or even arguably part of normal growing pains. It was sudden and severe. Within a year´s time, he had plummeted from the acme of promise to the pit of despair. All that´s left today, 2+ decades later, is essentially a shell which retains some charateristics of my brother as I knew him then. Exactly, in fact, as I knew him then. His personality is still very much that of a 17 year old boy, without any understanding of the world outside his immediate needs and gratification.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    41 persons like this.


Reply 47 - Posted by: Bartemis, 12/17/2012 12:08:12 AM     (No. 9070069)

The state of mental health care in this country is an abomination. Mental illness is a physical illness, just like any other. The brain has become dysfunctional. The condition cannot be cured at present, and perhaps only prevented in the future. But, it can be managed with appropriate therapy and medication. Some lucky few retain enough contact with reality that they can lead a diminished life of semi-independence. For others, expecting them to adhere to the therapy regimen, assuming they accept it in the first place, and fend for themselves is akin to pushing them out of an airplane and admonishing them to flap their arms and fly. But, their wings have been ravaged, and it is just not physically possible.

It is unjust for a civilized society to push the burden onto the families, who are generally not knowledgable or qualified in any way to deal with the situation, and it is not their fault. This is an equal opportunity affliction - though it is more likely to occur in families with a history, it is not much less likely to strike from out of the blue. It tends to strike males in their late teens to early twenties, and females in their late twenties to early thirties. It could happen to you or someone in your family, dear reader. And, God help you if it does.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    41 persons like this.


Reply 48 - Posted by: vinegrower, 12/17/2012 12:30:14 AM     (No. 9070084)

#42 Ronald Reagan was implementing a law that was signed by the previous Calif governor, Pat Brown, the present governor´s father. The mental health community and the ACLU types of the 60´s persuaded the public that many people placed in institutions should not be there and that they were being mistreated. I am sure some changes were in order but our society has paid a very heavy price for this overreaction.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    38 persons like this.


Reply 49 - Posted by: peterfleming, 12/17/2012 12:51:05 AM     (No. 9070095)

Mom leaving three of her registered guns in the home of her mentally disabled son, is as potentially dangerous as any drunk driver
As far the police are concerned, stop attacking peaceful lifetime drug users, save billions and focus on people like this and parents with these frightening problems.
Our government seems to be doing everything wrong and forgetting their simple job of
protection, heading off predectable crimes.
Think about the fascist communist stupidity of enforcing obamaskare with IRS agents, for example. They focus their guns on the plain sick people with broken bones, heart patients, cancer, the lot. Guns attacking the physically sick, doing nothing about the mentally ill.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    30 persons like this.


Reply 50 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 12/17/2012 8:47:59 AM     (No. 9070483)

Our prisons are now full of mentally ill individuals because there are no actions that can be taken until they do harm to others.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    32 persons like this.


Reply 51 - Posted by: snowcloud, 12/17/2012 1:36:05 PM     (No. 9071081)

#42, how much are you being paid to spread THAT lie? We all know the mental hospitals were closed by the ACLU! LIAR!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    32 persons like this.



Post Reply   Close thread 715793




Below, you will find ...

Most Recent Articles posted by "f64"

and

Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)




Most Recent Articles posted by "f64"



GOP Senator: We Are the
Party of the 47 Percent
National Journal, by Michael Catalini    Original Article
Posted By: f64- 1/27/2013 11:11:22 AM     Post Reply
Freshman Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas on Saturday chided the GOP over its 2012 electoral losses, saying "Republicans are and should be the party of the 47 percent," a clear allusion to the remarks caught on video by presidential candidate Mitt Romney during the campaign. Cruz, speaking at the National Review Institute summit in Washington, was quick to say he wasn´t criticizing Romney, but that the party lost a messaging battle with the electorate and that comment was just a symptom of the problem.

´I Am Adam Lanza´s Mother´: A Mom´s
Perspective On The Mental Illness
Conversation In America
Blue Review, by Liza Long    Original Article
Posted By: f64- 12/16/2012 11:09:34 AM     Post Reply
Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, my 13-year old son Michael (name changed) missed his bus because he was wearing the wrong color pants. (Snip) I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me. A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me (Snip)His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan -- they ran to the car and locked the doors
This very important blog is posted with special permission of staff.

Beware the Goodists
Jewish World Review, by Jonathan Rosenblum    Original Article
Posted By: f64- 11/28/2012 10:52:12 AM     Post Reply
One of the working papers for the recent Jewish People Policy international conference, entitled "Jewish Identity and Identification: New Patterns, Meanings, and Network´s," posed the question whether the Jewish community´s altered material and political circumstance "entail a long-term shift from identification with the have-nots to identification with the haves." (Snip)But their implicit characterization of the divide between political liberalism and conservatism as one between good people who care about those less fortunate than themselves and bad people who don´t strikes me as highly tendentious.

Obamacare Is Still Vulnerable
National Review, by Michael F. Cannon    Original Article
Posted By: f64- 11/10/2012 8:48:13 AM     Post Reply
President Obama has won reelection, and his administration has asked state officials to decide by Friday, November 16, whether their state will create one of Obamacare’s health-insurance “exchanges.” States also have to decide whether to implement the law’s massive expansion of Medicaid. The correct answer to both questions remains a resounding no. State-created exchanges mean higher taxes, fewer jobs, and less protection of religious freedom. States are better off defaulting to a federal exchange. The Medicaid expansion is likewise too costly and risky a proposition.



Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)



Kim Novak responds to post-
Oscars ridicule: ‘I was bullied.’

54 replie(s)
Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

Analysis: Obama Celebrates
Eight Million ´Enrollments,´
Again Declares Debate ´Over´

45 replie(s)
Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
44 replie(s)
The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

43 replie(s)
Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

42 replie(s)
Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

30 replie(s)
New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Living in the New York Times World
29 replie(s)
American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through


Post Reply   Close thread 715793





Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


© 2014 Lucianne.com Media Inc.

~~~c~~~