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U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya
Rebels Fell Into Jihadis’ Hands

New York Times, by James Risen, Mark Mazzetti*

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Posted By:Oblio, 12/6/2012 6:15:50 AM

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats. No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September. But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences

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Reply 1 - Posted by: strike3, 12/6/2012 6:55:44 AM     (No. 9051041)

Libya, Mexico. Have Obama and Holder armed anyone else of which we are not yet aware? It seems that the only people he doesn´t trust with weapons are Americans.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/6/2012 6:56:54 AM     (No. 9051046)

Obviously we had no business siding with the Libyan rebels and Gadaffi could have put this mob rule takeover down if not Obama hiring NATO jets to bomb the place.Gadaffi´s no candidate fr sainthood but at least he maintained some kind of stability in the country. As with Egypt,Obama could have given them 6 months to institute reforms and have open elections. Instead he backed the wrong horse like he always does.Now he´s intent on backing Syrian rebels but Bashar saw what happened in these other countries and was ready for it.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pineledger, 12/6/2012 7:01:08 AM     (No. 9051054)

Isn´t this exactly what W has been vilified for?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: provide, 12/6/2012 7:08:44 AM     (No. 9051064)

Fell? More likely shared.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/6/2012 7:09:02 AM     (No. 9051065)

Oh dear, how could that have happened when the Bam Bam gub´mint has such a good track record on controling weapons and keeping Consulates safe.......

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Reply 6 - Posted by: GringoinQuito, 12/6/2012 7:14:52 AM     (No. 9051073)

Surprised that the NYT reports this after the election?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: JAN, 12/6/2012 7:22:56 AM     (No. 9051079)

And the NYSlimes rushes to assure us that none of these weapons were used against us in Beghazzi. And they know this how????

Since we have refused to investigate the massacre it´s clear to me that these weapons were used against us.

Initially there was fear that Fast and Furious weapons were used by Jared Loughner in the Gifford shooting.

There were also assurances that the Aurora theater shooter guns were not from F&F.

Is there any doubt that these weapons are everywhere?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 12/6/2012 7:32:32 AM     (No. 9051101)

Evil or naivete? How about both?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/6/2012 7:37:15 AM     (No. 9051109)

Yes, it all comes back to "the Obama administration." Any investigation, just like Fast and Furious, will be filled with obfuscation and murkiness so that no accountability will reach anyone in the administration who actually IS responsible.

A decision this large would never happen without a president´s approval. Obama is a cancer that just keeps growing. Is there a doctor in the house?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: LZK, 12/6/2012 7:59:20 AM     (No. 9051144)

Ahhhhhh -- so now the truth surfaces... The violence came as a direct result of the terrorists getting OUR weapons to use against OUR Ambassador.....

No wonder the "won" wanted to HIDE the truth.....

Another Fast and Furious -- on the Middle Eastern "border" this time....

Incompetent/incompetent/incompetent......

LZK

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Reply 11 - Posted by: mulhaven, 12/6/2012 8:07:26 AM     (No. 9051157)

Certainly, everyone knew that the rebels are jihadis. Who are the spin doctors trying to fool - the Kool-Aid crowd? What other rebels are there in that part of the world?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Pearson365, 12/6/2012 8:24:48 AM     (No. 9051195)

NYT: ".... an American arms dealer who proposed weapons transfers in an e-mail exchange with a United States emissary later killed in Benghazi..."

Is the NYT revealing why Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi on 9/11/12? Not to open a cultural center but for weapons transfers. With whom, to whom? Times is silent on why there were 30+ CIA agents at the nearby annex. Did the NYT try to contact this evacuated group? Surely 1 or 2 must be willing to willing to speak out anonymously. Is the Nobel Peace Prize Committee aware that Obama sponsored arms are now in use by jihadist in Mali and Syria?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 12/6/2012 8:32:28 AM     (No. 9051206)

#8. The NYT´s doth protest too much. To me by their denial, it is clear that there were US weapons used in Benghazi. Lies and more lies.
The administration tells lies and the NYT swears to to them.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Crosscut, 12/6/2012 8:35:58 AM     (No. 9051213)

Wow, talk about crimes against humanity. Obama and Holder are definitely guilty. Don´t let them get away with this.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: frankb4now, 12/6/2012 8:37:08 AM     (No. 9051216)

The Ambassador wasn´t "in on the deal" he was ferreting it out and on that bases he had to die.
Which means that he was too close to the truth.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: happy conservative, 12/6/2012 8:45:43 AM     (No. 9051227)

So, again, why isn´t America "fast and furious" over this?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Felixcat, 12/6/2012 8:54:06 AM     (No. 9051240)

Kind of ironic that Democrats so eager to send weapons to foreign thugs are just as eager to limit 2nd amendment rights of their fellow, law abiding citizens...

So do you think that between Holder and Obama more people of color have been killed by US imported weapons than liberated?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: M2, 12/6/2012 8:56:38 AM     (No. 9051243)

Well done, #1. It appears that Fast & Furious is this Administration´s global goal so long as Americans can´t exercise their 2nd amendment rights.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 12/6/2012 9:03:09 AM     (No. 9051258)

I suspect a great many weapons were being spirited off to Syria, for those ´´rebels´´.

But hey - let´s get the UN to institute a global policy of gun control that applies mostly to the U.S.

And if it weren´t for the easy availability of guns, a Kansas City football player and his babymama would still be alive.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Adam, 12/6/2012 9:11:24 AM     (No. 9051274)

This gets me so depressed. That the Libya coverup was, from the get-go, an attempt to hide a) that Obama was funneling arms to al Qaeda and b) that there was a black site torture site in Benghazi was patently obvious long long before the election. But the media refused to follow that story and Romney wasn´t man enough to stick it to Obama and the media about it. Now look. Watch folks. Le Deluge.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Judith, 12/6/2012 9:18:38 AM     (No. 9051294)

There were loads of news (from foreign sources)claiming that a lot of the arms obama had provided for his allies were now in the arms of al-qaeda-like jihadis. How you can tell the difference between these savages escapes me. And seeing that obama seems to naturally align with ANYONE who detests the USA, is it a stretch of....imagination/common sense...to think he was supplying his natural allies?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/6/2012 9:20:18 AM     (No. 9051295)

The Jihadists did not use American Arms at Benghazi!!

(They sold them to the Mexican Drug Cartel)

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Daisymae, 12/6/2012 9:22:28 AM     (No. 9051301)

Here we go with Mr. Transparent again "The Obama administration secretly ___________" go ahead fill in the blank. We are just too stupid to understand the complex workings of the Obama world order.

BTW, what color is his hair right now? The powdery gray of the seasoned world leader or the vibrant black of a young robust whippersnapper?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 12/6/2012 9:36:22 AM     (No. 9051328)

Why do I find myself rooting for Assad to prevail, against the wishes and actions of the potus? Because the potus is worse, much worse.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: flatwater, 12/6/2012 9:59:53 AM     (No. 9051386)

Of course the weapons Obama knowingly supplied to al-Qaeda related terrorists were used to murder our men in Benghazi!

That´s why there are absolutely NO QUESTIONS from Brian Williams, Diane Sawyer, Scott Pelley, Wolf Blitzer, Chris Matthews, etc., etc., etc.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 12/6/2012 10:06:30 AM     (No. 9051403)

Barry´s Middle East version of Fast & Furious.

Dead Americans? Oh well. You don´t hear anyone complaining, do you?

/sarcasm and disgust off/

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Reply 27 - Posted by: bobdog, 12/6/2012 10:22:25 AM     (No. 9051444)

Why do we keep playing games with these people? We keep sending them foreign aid and weapons to one regime after another, hoping they´ll finally see the light and show a little gratitude for the free stuff we´ve been sending them for the last century, afraid of what might happen if we stop. We keep hoping they´ll LIKE us, like a bunch of per-adolescent schoolgirls.

The fact is, they never will. They hate us and want to see us dead. All of us. And we keep shipping them money by the boatload, hoping they´ll eat us last.

How did we get so stupid?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 12/6/2012 10:43:52 AM     (No. 9051514)

So what else is new? Obama lied causing people to die. I´m sure this has all worked as Obama planned.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: stryker714, 12/6/2012 11:02:16 AM     (No. 9051565)

Good: #1, 3, 10, 14, 19, etc. Obama certainly is a cancer and no remission in sight.

So far everything the insider who was interviewed by Canada Free Press seems to be legit. 16 is dead on-Stephens knew too much. There were just too many opportunities and resources available at the DC commie´s disposal to rescue them, than to believe otherwise.

I posted the Egypt crisis article, where libs swim in foam(from foaming at the mouth of course!). This one poster had the audacity to say, "Let the Egyptians sort out their democracy." Ha! Obama overthrew these former allies and now it´s time to leave the situation alone? Ridiculous. Should have left well enough alone to begin with. Who is going to fix Obama´s Middle East mess?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: athina, 12/6/2012 11:13:24 AM     (No. 9051609)

This will be whitewashed by the corrupt press but -- some people already knew this and claim that this assault on the ambassador was a deal gone wrong between Obama and these terrorists.... So there is more to come, if only somebody has the courage to follow this through.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 12/6/2012 11:14:00 AM     (No. 9051610)

The Obamans erred in supporting the overhrow of two dictators - Mubarak and Ghadaffi- who were no threat to us. That - not any pie in the sky pseudo idealism- should have been the guiding light. Consulting Congress might have added some restraint also. It now looks like Fauntleroy is about to blunder into Syria in the same fashion. Back off - stay out.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace, 12/6/2012 11:24:58 AM     (No. 9051646)

Fast amd Furious.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 12/6/2012 11:27:07 AM     (No. 9051653)

Fast and furious. There is evidence if we look.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 12/6/2012 11:54:15 AM     (No. 9051775)

Folks, don´t kid yourselves.

This item was totally coordinated with Zippy & Co. - - as an effort to stay ahead of the story and keep the lid on it.

"No evidence"? HAH!

Just another element of the coverup.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Happy Trails, 12/6/2012 12:43:05 PM     (No. 9051928)

Obama claims to fight AQ in Afganistan, while the muslim in him arms our enemies, to fight any resistance to his Brotherhood thugs in Libya and Egypt. Some find this impossible to believe, but their faith in him is misdirected. He seeks their destruction just like the undead aborted baby hopes to live but finds his heart cold and dead. When he gets there someday his fate will be sealed. No forgiveness for the dead eyed killer of freedom, and America. He is the Jihad President, Darwin´s gift to Satan.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: ladychatalie, 12/6/2012 4:19:50 PM     (No. 9052302)

That´s right. Blame it on Qatar. Blame it on the CIA. Blame it on anyone and everyone except the real culprits.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: thelmalou, 12/6/2012 4:53:08 PM     (No. 9052337)

Fast and Furious: Benghazi Edition.


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Reply 38 - Posted by: Hannah Columbia, 12/6/2012 6:22:33 PM     (No. 9052459)

I´m so surprised! not. Like when they started the whole Egypt thing their next goal was not always Libya. You know, home of the Mahdi army, the 12 imam, the Senussi?Betcha cash they need some route thru Mitzraim.

Sure would be nice if Americans spent less time turning on their neighbors (hate the rich; hate the poor) and just 10 minutes a day thinking very carefully.

But then we couldn´t spend all day catching up on something that it is too late to do anything about. Proactive is better than reactive. Cuz with the 2nd all you do is almost catch up, all the time and never soon enough to stop them. Postmortem is not good for situations this critical.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 12/6/2012 8:01:17 PM     (No. 9052637)

Folks in the USA who couldn´t be bothered to vote Obie out of office - having fun, yet?

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Reply 40 - Posted by: larryp, 12/6/2012 8:47:44 PM     (No. 9052705)

Baby Dr Asssad and family are Alawites (Sp) . So is Tony Rezsco, Obama real estate arranger, an Alaiwite tribe

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