Let it roll and show the maroons who voted for him how stupid they were

Let´s watch Jay Carney melt down.

It would be funny if we were talking about some third world dictatorship...

It all depends on how united the Republicans stand, and with wishy washy comments by some, and even Peter King,. whom we otherwise respect, re: giving in on tax hikes "for the rich" (e.g. the people who own small business´s and invest in others) Obama is THRILLED and encouraged. Krautheimer is right.........the Devil wirth ´em. We have YET to get any shrinking down the road and both Reagan and Bush were suckered.

Obama doubles his demands insulting the GOP and expecting them to cave on everything. Other libs tell us this is "just the beginning" They are out of their mind! The house has the power of the purse and they should use it. Money is what feeds the democrat dependency creating vote buying machine. Cut it off while you can. Giving the Rats money is like pouring gasoline on a fire. Never raise the debt ceiling or taxes. The "cliff" gives the rats the clinton rates which will result in a recession and less revenue. Enough! The GOP needs new leaders who understand these things and are principled and articulate.

Planetgeo´s First Law of Contentious Negotiation: The unreasonable party always wins.

The geitner game is working on the 2014 election for the demorats. That´s why the demorats will never take this situation seriously....

Soooooooo --- I say --- let it fall....

The demorats wanted to be in charge -- soooooo -- let them be in charge. WE conservatives will survive. The welfare class however -- will struggle and that´s the obama class....a free phone and free welfare and free birth control.....AND no one to pay for all the "stuff"...

Since November 7th -- my funds are safe, my cupboard is full of long/term food, I´m locked and loaded. Bring it on!!

LZK

Will Republicans please get their talking points together and keep repeating them over and over?
Obama is not serious about reducing the dificit. He wants more money to SPEND more money.
Geithner needs to be taken away in a straight-jacket.

In re #3, we are. I used to think Dave Wiedemer´s book Aftershock was a bit over the top. Not so sure now.

While we shouldn´t automatically embrace the Doom and Gloom scenario, keeping a close eye on my assets and ready to cash out if necessary.

Barry never seems to lose any argument and goes completely unchallenged by a singe member of the mainstream media. Government schools and a government media are tough to beat. If the truth has power, eventually we will win but it will take a clear message and a winning communication plan - both of which have been sadly lacking from our ´leadership´.

It doesnt matter. This white male has gone full "Galt". I will never give to charity again and I am on survival mode. I have no faith in our country and believe we are doomed. The faster the collapse comes, the faster that a new order can be produced. RIP, USA.

The liberal media can and ARE swallowing everything Obama is saying---pay attention. The ONLY oneswho are faltering slightly are those (like Jay Leno---where was HE these past 4 years?) who are siuddenly being hit in the pocketbook. The absolutely hypocritical head of Costco and other Obama backers are actually doing cash outs NOW before Jan. lst and the new (15% to 40% tax) rates on them. They deserve such contempt!!!!!!

We will find a way to lose this fight.

We will make a way.

We will adapt and overcome all difficulties as we seize another tragic defeat from the jaws of victory.

They give us our script and we read it.

All I say is.....he better lose this round. Or we are taking names and anyone that voted on Obama stupid budget we will work hard to see that they voted out of the Senate or House.

Apparently no one has ever negotiated for/about anything. The first step is to ask for the World and when you settle for your goal of just America you can pretend both sides got something. The bottom line is the R´s will fold like the cheap suits they are.

Say goodbye to your 401K´s, and 403b´s kids. Yes the GOP WILL cave because falling down, rolling over and soiling themselves is all they know. In addition, always remember, Obama and his Marxists are NOT the problem. The problem begins with a V and ends with an OTERS.

I have left coast relatives (feminazis) who insist we must take care of those who have less than we do. If the useful idiots cannot distinguish between rape and making love, how can they tell the difference between giving charity and being mugged.

I can understand why the left wing media parrot the 0bama line about a fiscal cliff. But why do the right wing media do the same? They both compare the current rates paid by low income taxpayers with the prospective rates that will be paid by high income taxpayers if no change is made.

But if we compare things within a given tax bracket, all that will happen is that everyone will experience an increase of a few per cent in their tax bill.

Considering that we have been in a Depression for four years and we have over 16% unemployment, this small increase is not the main item of business. Instead we have to focus on crippling the monster in the White House and electing a stronger Congress.

does ANY American care about geithner?
geithner is A TAX CHEAT!! HE´S A TAX EVADER..
HE´S A GIANT FOX IN THE HEN HOUSE..
where´s the MSM??
put him in prison!!

It amazes me how all of you keep thinking what Obama does is awful.... we thought that before the election and he was elected by a lot of people and that leaves us conservatives sitting here wondering what is going to happen to this country. We knew if he got reelected, it would be bad. We knew that and there is nothing we can do. We are in a snake pit and there is no way out. I don;t even think that it will end in four years. It is forever. We have lost it alllllllll.

Maybe when this moron´s approval numbers are in the 30´s his supporters will realize that they were even bigger idiots than him.

The MSM will still find a way to protect their golden boy from Kenya, i.e. those heartless republicans caused a second and deeper recession. Even though the recession that started in 2008 never ended but was exacerbated by obama´s wild spending spree.

As far as your money goes, it isn´t safe no matter where it is unless it has been turned into real assets like weapons, defensible property, ammo and food. The dollar won´t be worth a buffalo-head nickel when the democrats get done destroying our country. Once America goes down the tubes, the rest of the world will quickly follow because we control all of their marbles. It won´t be just the inner-city hordes that will be threatening those who are prepared but ex school teachers, union workers, government drones and delusional liberals will all be out there in search of your food. Good luck and good hunting.

Numbers reported last week on the calendar year 2013 show that the tax hike on the rich would target 42 billion, while the rest of the expiring cuts would bring in 179 billion from the middle class and 84 billion from everyone else. Ending Payroll Holiday would bring in 95 billion and the remaining Stimulus, 27. He´s got the world focused on 42 billion, the other 385 billion he will let slide another year. But in return he wants new taxes. Don´t bite. Let all the extensions expire and say here´s 427 billion a year (90% from other than the rich), lets balance the budget. What are the 427 billion cuts you will make in calendar year 2013? The Sequester only cuts tens of billions in 2013.

The fiscal cliff is just what the Obamaphone people need to feel a shot of reality. Don´t get wobbly thinking that the Repubs will be blamed, they are to blame for everthing in any case. Spending is the job of the House, and we control the HOuse. Close the wallet and starve the beast. Let the Obama zombies howl into thier Obamaphones. Let´s settle this maker/taker thing right now.

Ha !. Charlie Brown Boehner can´t even handle an old crone from San Fran . I´ll eat my shoe if he stands any ground and not get dope-roped all over again . The all mighty is what concerns him . Beh..

The Obama-ites are counting on their ability to demagogue the public into believing that falling off the cliff will be the Republicans´ fault.

Dems gleefully recall how in ´94, Clinton conned Americans into believing that Gingrich, and the newly elected GOP majority in Congress, were causing a catastrophe by "shutting down the government."

Will it work this time? Dems are awfully good at demagoguing. Some few in the MSM may be catching on, and suffering a twinge of long-buried conscience ... but not enough.

The simple truth is that Dems want more money so that they can blow it on cute things like Solyndra, cars that catch on fie if you look at them wrong, , and aid to people like the Gaza -dwelling murderers.

The other truth is that we should not be surprised that the lower two thirds of the country (economically), most of whom pay no income taxes, want the top third to pay more taxes. That is because of the well known Stopstoreload maxim that other people´s money is too easy to spend.

Only a charlatan and an economic ignoramus would cater to the wishes of these people, mentioning no names, of course.

The game is not to approve a budget

Budgets mean limits. Limits mean less stealing and pork. No budget means unlimited emergency spending measures.

Can´t ya´ll see the game being run on us?

I personally am standing ready for a strong conservative leader to emerge and issue a call to arms. I´m ready to have a REAL fight to reclaim the United States to what they were intended to be!

Taxes won´t cover the financial gap between spending and debt. COnfiscation of private retirement plans is next. The idea has already been outlined and found sound by some in congress

I´m happy to see this column and Marc Thiessen´s column from earlier this week get support from my fellow conservatives.

Republicans have protected the people who voted for bigger government for too long. All the spending has just been passed on to future generations. Let´s see what happens when their taxes go up too and they have to pay for their choices.

Watching half the population of this country, who are stupid beyond all belief, heading for the abyss makes me feel all Guy Fawkesy inside. Let it burn; I want to watch!


Girl´s Hubby

....and unlimited, unilateral, total control of all future spending caps !!!!

Did he really demand that ????

Really ?

That´s the same as: "Make me total dictator".

Or am I missing something ?

Obama´s poll numbers are irrelevant. He was re-elected by the extremely stupid half of the country who buy into his crap. We all knew there would be a price to pay for this election and unfortunately the innocent will pay along with the guilty. I barely could tolerate liberals before -now I won´t even speak to them. Let America rot.

#35 hit the nail on the head and unfortunately it is only going to get worse, because the number of takers in the country will only accelerate into the future.

One prime generator of that is both the mass uncontrolled illegal alien situation, and the legal immigration programs, that feed about a million or so generally uneducated people mostly from socialist oriented third world countries into the USA every year with them eventually being granted US voting rights.

As time goes by more and more of those people will be given US voting rights, thus changing forever the political balance of the country.

Back in 1965, Ted Kennedy knew what he was doing when he changed the immigration laws to ensure that the preponderance of the classes of immigrants allowed into the country would be tailored using family reunification objectives which assists mostly poor and generally uneducated immigrants to come to the USA, who he knew from historical evidence would help to keep the liberal Democrats in power indefinitely.

When all that has been going on now for decades, the wimpy Republicans always frightened of being called out as racists by the liberal Democrats, have just gone along to get along. Now that aspect of American history is catching up with the Republicans, who unless they completely change and liberalize their party political and social philosophies will never again have the votes to win national elections.

"........also a “permanent” ability to raise the debt ceiling, independent of Congress."

Who the heck does Obama think he is, there is no way anyone in this country should allow this to happen. If it does then we just should disband Congress and shut the door because then we will have no say in anything. The only thing standing between us and a dictator is the Congress.

Obama thinks he won by a landslide and that everyone will fall in line to his thinking. Not me.

I´m with #´s 7, 11, et al. I have no faith in our country´s future or any of our ´leaders´. I´m cashing out all of my investments. The cash may be worthless in a couple of years but at least the government will get less of it if I cash out now than if I wait until after Jan. 1. I have a year´s worth of food, medical supplies, etc. stockpiled and plenty of ammo. I have 10 acres to farm and my own water source. I´m eliminating all liberal acquaintances ( haven´t had liberal friends for at least a decade ) from my life and am concentrating on my family and my relationship with God.

Mau Mau Junior is going to make us pay for success, no question.

It is apparent that 2012 dem pols covet winning politically at ANY cost. Literally!

Could even America the Beautiful simply disappear, ´´under the bus,´´ driven by the statist dems´ flim/flam policy Scrooge?!

Sen. Tom Coburn is leaving the Senate but he relates exactly what & why these stumbling blocks are now confronting America´s future in a discussion of, ´´The Debt Bomb,´´ on C-Span earlier today, which will be repeated later tonight.

The last big reserve of money in the U.S. is your 401k"s your pensions and your bank accounts, they will "Federalize" them similar to the Social Security program ,issue you I.O.U.s and ALLOW you to withdraw so much a month,under the guise of yor patriotic duty.

Let all Democratic legislation bills (no procedural or confirmations) be voted on.
All GOPs vote ´Present´ Dems vote ´Yea´ Bill passes, Obama & Dems own it!

Obama will never lose ground. He made a ridiculous offer, and there will not be a better offer, because he wants the republicans to take the blame for taxes going up by refusing it. No mystery. Wants the House to flip back in 2014 because republican voters are angry and don´t vote.

47 percent are taking every freebe possible and 40% more are forgetting that less than a month ago they were claiming to be the big brave GOP who were taking back the country--- Now it´s proven is they were waiting for somebody to do that for them.
The media won´t --Yawn-- did they ever?
The elected leaders are all impotent fools---
Are they? Or are they just the whipping posts for the ones who failed to back them up or gosh even vote?
All in all can we begin to understand at least 67% don´t deserve a free nation.
Well that about matches the numbers that let the minute men give them the original American Constitution instead of joining the fight.

The garbage media continues to carry Chairman Zero´s water by describing his idiocy as his plan for "middle class tax cuts". They have abdicated all responsibilities of their profession in favor of becoming cheerleaders for a criminal regime.

I have no faith that the Republican Congress people and the so called Republican leadership WON´T cave. Why any group with the term Republican as a prefix or a person with that word appended should expect donations is beyond me.

What they will do is try to stay in office.

I watched Fox News Sunday. The interview with Geithner was incredible. He is so dense and deceitful!

Then came Boehner. Please get us a different spokesperson1 BTW call Newt. He said on Judge Jeanine that there doesn´t have to be a fiscal cliff. The Congress can do several specific things.

Why don´t they get a successful negotiator involved? It is depressing.

BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT!!

People,

60% of the citizenry will blame the Repubs for the economic crisis NO mater what goes down. Do you understand this? They cannot win this showdown.

Reality is of no significance here.60% of the county has made up its mind. That is what the polling states. They cannot win this.

If the Repubs save the day, Barry will get credit for it. If calamity occurs, Repubs will get blamed for it. It is unwinnable.

In other words, to save America the Republicans have to appease those with no interest in saving America.

If Barry & his moocher demonrats get all that tax money by letting all the Bush tax cuts expire, you can bet your last nickel that they will spend not only that total amount but probably twice as much.

In re #35 - Amen. #50 Exactly.

Speaking of Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace - anyone watch the roundtable discussion? Former Senator Bayh (cannot stand that smirky smile of his) said that he belives that Obama will exert "leadership" on the fiscal cliff...hahahaha