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If GOP continues to ignore
health care, U.S. will end
up with single payer

Washington Examiner, by Philip Klein

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 11/30/2012 10:29:56 AM

One of the main consequences of President Obama’s reelection is that his national health care law will be implemented. Though there are various measures that Republicans can take to gum up the works in the coming years and though there will be a number of logistical hurdles facing the administration, the reality is that any future Republican proposals for reforming the health care system will have to wrestle with the existing Obamacare framework. Even if premiums spike, wait times at doctors’ offices swell, exchanges are a mess and some people lose coverage they like as a

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When I start feeling a little better after this devastating election I read an article like this. Single payer has always been 0bama´s goal. He said so during a speech to the SEIU that universal healthcare was his goal and there would be a "transition process" to achieve that goal. How terribly unfortunate for us.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 11/30/2012 10:34:27 AM     (No. 9041147)

It´s always been about incrementalism with DemocRATS. Consider ´HillaryCare´ - that seems so long ago, but it really isn´t.


Reply 2 - Posted by: plex, 11/30/2012 10:45:12 AM     (No. 9041182)

The GOP hasn´t ignored the issue. The press just refuses to cover their plans. Oh, of course the plans don´t involve the government so they must not be real.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: convert, 11/30/2012 10:47:24 AM     (No. 9041190)

This author is exactly right. I remember back during the 2 Bush terms, his constant pushing of the Healthcare accounts that could be set aside tax-free!....and that was it--that´s all Bush and Republicans ever had to offer as a solution when they had the reins. I would sit there and shake my head at the State of the Union addresses each year, thinking "they just don´t get it....how much frustration and anger there is out there about the healthcare/insurance mess..." We´re sure going to pay for their cluelessness now.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 11/30/2012 10:49:26 AM     (No. 9041193)

I´m beginning to think that most of the opposition the Repubs do to any Dem proposals is simply kabuki theater to save face while they sell us out. They are more to blame for the state this nation is in that the Dems. At least the Dems are honest on their votes.


Reply 5 - Posted by: RightShoe, 11/30/2012 10:50:20 AM     (No. 9041196)

Perhaps we could change the definition of a doctor. I don´t need to see a licensed physician or doctor to get treatment. I only need a competent individual.

Just give me this tiny bit of freedom to decide who this is and I´ll be able to walk away from Obamacare. Maybe I can´t ignore the tax penalty, quite yet, but it would be a start.


Reply 6 - Posted by: grounded, 11/30/2012 11:12:02 AM     (No. 9041261)

Justice Roberts, in threading the needle last summer in order to uphold ObamaCare by declaring the payment of a penalty for not purchasing health insurance a "tax", which falls within the taxing power granted Congress ignores this constitutional prohibition: "Article I, Section. 9.
Clause 4: No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

This clause is the reason that the Sixteenth Amendment was necessary in order to collect an income tax. In essence, the Roberts "tax" is unconstitutional, and ObamaCare by extension is unconstitutional.


Reply 7 - Posted by: armywife85, 11/30/2012 11:15:06 AM     (No. 9041271)

And what pray tell are republicans supposed to do when they are hamstrung by the voters? We also have a media that wouldn´t know honest journalism or integrity if it came up and bit them in the behind.....exactly what are republicans supposed to do? To all of you on our side who refused to vote for Romney or were one of those nutty Paulbots or Gary Johnson supporters and couldn´t vote for Romney...GREAT JOB!


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 11/30/2012 11:15:37 AM     (No. 9041273)

The GOP has always surrendered, that is what they are there for. Anyone interested in freedom recognizes that the GOP is the first obstacle they need to get rid of in order to beat the totalitarians.


Reply 9 - Posted by: STLstudent, 11/30/2012 11:32:26 AM     (No. 9041303)

Conservatives must not give in. If the socialists get their nationalized health care, then let it be totally their baby. We must not compromise.

Resist in every way possible. No compromise.


Reply 10 - Posted by: jntsrgn, 11/30/2012 12:01:01 PM     (No. 9041345)

30% of the nation is on medicare. 22% of the nation is on medicaid.

Therefore, 53% of the nation is already on single payer healthcare.


Reply 11 - Posted by: scurfie, 11/30/2012 12:20:23 PM     (No. 9041405)

I´ve got a flash for you all. When you turn 65 you MUST go on Medicare. So all this talk about mandatory government health care is bull. We are and have been sold.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Michaelus, 11/30/2012 1:07:09 PM     (No. 9041497)

Actually given the trends in diabetes and obesity it will not matter in a few years - our real health care costs will be more than we will be able to bear.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: oh-heck, 11/30/2012 2:45:04 PM     (No. 9041720)

1) The whole insurance exchange and Medicaid Expansion issues need to play out
2) The first Freedom of Religion case has just been revitalized and sent back to Appeals Court
3) In 19 months, the screaming about the costs and service available in Obamacare will be deafening, particularly in the blue states; the programs still won´t be available in the red states that decided not to set up an exchange


Reply 14 - Posted by: Starlady, 11/30/2012 7:22:26 PM     (No. 9042090)

If you believe in smaller government then GOP at the federal level should not believe it is their job to jump into healthcare. That belongs to the states. I am happy the GOP didn´t want to play nanny over my medical care. Do you want the government telling what to do or do you not? You cannot have it both ways. I want them out of my life including my doctors office.



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