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Jensen and Flynn
TownHall.com, by Thomas Sowell

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Posted By:javaboy, 11/27/2012 7:04:16 AM

Anyone who has followed the decades-long controversies over the role of genes in IQ scores will recognize the names of the two leading advocates of opposite conclusions on that subject-- Professor Arthur R. Jensen of the University of California at Berkeley and Professor James R. Flynn, an American expatriate at the University of Otago in New Zealand. What is so unusual in the academic world of today is that Professor Flynn´s latest book, "Are We Getting Smarter?" is dedicated to Arthur Jensen, whose integrity he praises, even as he opposes his conclusions.

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Not obvious from the intro, but the article is about academic intolerance.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/27/2012 7:43:22 AM     (No. 9035511)

Whole nations raising their IQ scores in a generation or two means the ability to take IQ tests was improved, perhaps through training, enhanced awareness. If it is true that westerners fare better at these tests because they have been designed in a western cultural frame of reference, why do Korean children who have never been to the US consistently outscore our kids?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Tarheelkate, 11/27/2012 8:01:32 AM     (No. 9035537)

This is very interesting. Sowell´s approach supports my own feeling that much of this is cultural, not genetic, when we´re speaking of averages, not individuals. Sowell also points out that open discussion of academic research makes progress, as opposed to the blanket bans on certain research avenues.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/27/2012 8:22:06 AM     (No. 9035580)

While I generally dislike adding to the over-large list of existing criminal laws, I hereby demand the institution of the death penalty for academic malpractice.

And,yes, I managed to get thrown out of several universities in the 1970´s for expressing conservative ideas.

Zero tolerance for conservatism was designed to prevent conservative youths from ever gaining the power and privilege of higher education.

I took the hint and spent 40 years as a plumbing contractor.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: southron, 11/27/2012 10:14:58 AM     (No. 9035813)

Although cultural factors might play a role in the formation of IQs I have to side with Jensen - it is primarily genetic.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: jimmiet, 11/27/2012 10:19:01 AM     (No. 9035819)

Dr. Sowell, forever the free market capitalist. God blessed you, and you me.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 11/27/2012 12:10:23 PM     (No. 9036061)

IQ is probably mostly cultural but genes also are a factor. We gladly accept the fact that people like Einstein, Tesla, Edison, etc. were geniuses. No amount of study, education or good cultural influence could make most of us anywhere near the IQ´s of those men.

A lot of the IQ increase is a result of better nutrition particularly in the US in the early 20th century. He mentions that the southerners from the south testing lower than blacks from the north. It´s probably because many southerners both black and white suffered horrendous poverty in the early 1900´s and the malnutrition that came with it.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/27/2012 12:47:23 PM     (No. 9036132)

Likely using the same numbers, one with junk analysis the other with real scientific rigor.

The day politics and agenda infested science was the day science died.

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