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Hostess going out of business;
nearly 18,000 to be laid off

KDFW [DFW TX], by Alice Wolke

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 11/16/2012 7:46:17 AM

IRVING, Texas - Say goodbye to your Twinkies. North Texas-based Hostess Brands, Inc. has decided to go out of business and liquidate its assets after failing to win back striking workers. The company posted a statement on a website set up specifically for people following the strike. "We deeply regret the necessity of today´s decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike," said Gregory F. Rayburn, chief executive officer. "Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bassman, 11/16/2012 7:49:08 AM     (No. 9017841)

Thank the unions for this.


Reply 2 - Posted by: vrb8m, 11/16/2012 7:50:20 AM     (No. 9017844)

Forward!


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 11/16/2012 7:51:50 AM     (No. 9017847)

You just get sick and tired of the union mentality that is always "me, me, me! What can you do for me? You can´t afford it? Too bad. Me, Me, Me!!"

I am sorry for the owners of Hostess because I know this was a tough decision for them.

Happy Thanksgivine, Union pukes! Oh, and Merry Christmas, too!


Reply 4 - Posted by: Keekng, 11/16/2012 7:52:27 AM     (No. 9017849)

I wonder if the union clowns over at WalMart are aware of this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 11/16/2012 7:53:33 AM     (No. 9017856)

Sadly, this is the only way to end union tyranny. They won´t give an inch on anything - so other sacrifices have to be made.

We closed our company for almost the same reason: Union intimidation and ever-escalating union wages and benefits, while the rest of us non-union suffered drastic pay cuts to keep the doors open and everyone else at least employed.

FTA: ´´Hostess said it will seek bankruptcy court permission to sell all of its assets.´´ Watch for Direction 10-289 here to be imposed here.

I´d better add my favorite mini cupcakes to the grocery list - I´ll miss them when they go bye-bye.....

And: Don´t mess with Texas.


Reply 6 - Posted by: NancyD, 11/16/2012 7:53:34 AM     (No. 9017857)

That´s what the Unions deserve! It´s BS. The Union knows that Hostess has been struggling and they DEMAND more?

Cut them off. Right before the Holidays.. Ho Ho Ho.

I´m sure they are all shocked.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 11/16/2012 7:53:52 AM     (No. 9017860)

The unions wouldn´t be flexing their muscles so had it not been for the pirate captain who has taken this ship hostage.

Think dominoes.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 11/16/2012 7:54:37 AM     (No. 9017861)

´´Directive´´ 10-289, that is.....


Reply 9 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 11/16/2012 7:55:27 AM     (No. 9017863)

I´ve seen this before. The company tells the union the truth, they will close the plant because the union strike is unsustainable as are its demands and the union tells its members the company in bluffing. Then when the plant closes the union members can´t believe it. Too late. Losers.


Reply 10 - Posted by: Rather Read, 11/16/2012 7:57:14 AM     (No. 9017865)

I never ate Hostess products, but I know a lot of people who love them. This is so sad. Maybe someone can start up a similar business in a friendly state.


Reply 11 - Posted by: kafir091101, 11/16/2012 8:00:41 AM     (No. 9017870)

Now the question should be:

‘Will the unions call for a nationwide boycott of Hostess products?’

Kafir


Reply 12 - Posted by: Velox, 11/16/2012 8:00:54 AM     (No. 9017871)

This sounds like the book "Atlas Shrugged".


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Conservativegirl, 11/16/2012 8:02:37 AM     (No. 9017875)

An 8% cut in pay versus a 100% cut in pay. Hmmm, which one is better? Proof that union memebership is made up of dolts, as if we needed the proof.


girl´s Hubby


Reply 14 - Posted by: geekrunner, 11/16/2012 8:02:53 AM     (No. 9017876)

I´m sure some of my fellow Hoosier Ldot´ers remember Roselyn´s bakery. When they went under, the Roselyn´s brand and recipes were bought and the purchasing company made the same goods with the Roselyn recipe. I´ll bet the Hostess name will get bought and some enterprising (hopefully non-union) company will continue to carry on the Twinkie Tradition.


Reply 15 - Posted by: arcady, 11/16/2012 8:03:30 AM     (No. 9017877)

Obama hates white bread and twinkies


Reply 16 - Posted by: tech10171968, 11/16/2012 8:06:12 AM     (No. 9017881)

#15, I thought Obama WAS a white-bread Twinkie himself?


Reply 17 - Posted by: tech10171968, 11/16/2012 8:07:34 AM     (No. 9017882)

BTW, I wonder if anyone in a union has ever read that old story about the goose that laid the golden eggs? Seems quite fitting in this case.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: Rabidrabbit1, 11/16/2012 8:07:42 AM     (No. 9017883)

Who is John Galt?


Reply 19 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/16/2012 8:08:46 AM     (No. 9017885)

You ain´t lived until you have had a deep fried Twinkie at the Texas State Fair. But I will gladly give them up to see these union thugs slapped down. The problem is they will all just go on the dole and get their hands in our pockets anyway.


Reply 20 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 11/16/2012 8:10:45 AM     (No. 9017889)

The union really showed them, didn´t they! Give into our demands, or we´ll kill our members´ jobs.

Reminds me of a scene from Blazing Saddles, only they were not in Rock Ledge.


Reply 21 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 11/16/2012 8:11:28 AM     (No. 9017890)

S/C on. Maybe Obama can use our money to buy the company. Then he can give it to the union. The same way he did GM and Chrysler. He then can distribute the products to stores that only have supported him and his agenda. Sound familiar? S/C off.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 11/16/2012 8:14:16 AM     (No. 9017896)

Why couldn´t they have just hired replacement workers? Firestone did that in the 1980s at their plant in Decatur, IL.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: Mabeldog, 11/16/2012 8:18:41 AM     (No. 9017904)

Sounds like a job for Bain capital


Reply 24 - Posted by: sliver of truth, 11/16/2012 8:21:02 AM     (No. 9017909)

America continues to circle the drain.


Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/16/2012 8:25:20 AM     (No. 9017917)

Never liked Twinkies, but in years past was mildly addicted to chocolate treats DingDongs, the hockey-puck shaped cream-filled cakes in the silver foil wrappings.

It was amusing to see them show up in the desk drawer of the detective chief played by Kyra Sedgwick on the now-defunct "The Closer".


Reply 26 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 11/16/2012 8:26:33 AM     (No. 9017919)

I thought of that as well #21. But then Her Highness thinks we should all be eating nothing but raw vegetables and arugula, so I´m sure She is happy to see these evil sweets disappear from the shelves where the proletariat and bourgeoise
shop. After all, she still has her personall chef in the WH that can make anything she desires from scratch.


Reply 27 - Posted by: annapolis2010dad, 11/16/2012 8:26:42 AM     (No. 9017920)

One down, how many more union companies to go?
Barry will step in and buy the company. Perfect plan, Moochie as president and Bloomberg as VP of Hostess. The food police running a twinkie factory!!hahahahaha


Reply 28 - Posted by: Iconoclast, 11/16/2012 8:29:14 AM     (No. 9017924)

I´m not sure if you´re asking #8, but if so directive 10-289 is from "Atlas Shrugged" and was a Gov. ploy to save the U.S.economy from collapse, but instead accelerated it.


Reply 29 - Posted by: rmagnus, 11/16/2012 8:30:49 AM     (No. 9017928)

This union is like breast cancer - they attack something we love until they kill the Hostess.

Sadly, some martyrs will have to be made before things change. This is the first of many.


Reply 30 - Posted by: buckhorn_cortez, 11/16/2012 8:33:39 AM     (No. 9017932)

18,500 employees. The union represented 5,000. That means that less than 1/3 of the employees dictated terms for the remaining employees - which turned out to be losing their job. Hope that´s a lesson in union representation for someone.


Reply 31 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 11/16/2012 8:39:03 AM     (No. 9017944)

Darn. So much for my favorite "breakfast of ex-champions". Hostess Peach Pie and coffee. Tis a sad day.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 11/16/2012 8:40:34 AM     (No. 9017946)

Right here in Orlando too, the Merita plant will close too.

Time for you union folks to get your savior Barack O´Claus to rescue you?

Election over? Too bad so sad! Merry Christmas


Reply 33 - Posted by: Envirodude, 11/16/2012 8:41:15 AM     (No. 9017947)

Union fault? Seems like a management issue caused them to go bankrupt in the first place.


Reply 34 - Posted by: Keep_Right, 11/16/2012 8:41:37 AM     (No. 9017948)

Wonder if the union will send out Christmas cards to all those laid off people?


Reply 35 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 11/16/2012 8:41:59 AM     (No. 9017951)

What will the dole scroungers spend their EBT on now?


Reply 36 - Posted by: Laurie, 11/16/2012 8:42:21 AM     (No. 9017954)

I heard that not enough non-union workers were willing to cross the picket lines to continue production. Probably union thug intimidation.

Rush was right yesterday...this is a moral problem in our society. Until we fix it, this country is, indeed, lost.

Mr. Rayburn is surely headed for Galt´s Gulch. God help America.


Reply 37 - Posted by: Old Army Vet, 11/16/2012 8:42:33 AM     (No. 9017955)

This is nothing new. This is how unions work. If we think that you can afford it, we want more. The only problem with that is that the unions always think that the company can afford it. This is "our work" is the catch phrase of the unions. As I´ve said before, the unions do not care about the members, only keeping the money flowing in to the union counts.


Reply 38 - Posted by: floridagator, 11/16/2012 8:46:36 AM     (No. 9017962)

Way to go, ding-dongs.


Reply 39 - Posted by: Namma, 11/16/2012 8:47:56 AM     (No. 9017965)

remember the campaign commercial about the company that blamed Bain Capital and Romney for closing it down...that plant was shut down by union demands...had nothing to do with Bain.it shut down 10 years after Bain took over....
I feel for all the non union people that lost their jobs at this bakery...but the union jerks I just dont care about...obama willtake care of them....but the happy part is those union memebers still have to pay dues so the union leaders dont have to suffer loss of income...


Reply 40 - Posted by: Travis Mcgee, 11/16/2012 8:49:10 AM     (No. 9017967)

Union wankers always view the world with an unrealistic sense of self-serving. I despise them for this very selfish attitude. Most do jobs a monkey would excel at yet get paid as though they all have advanced degrees. Have a nice Christmas Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union members.


Reply 41 - Posted by: LouD, 11/16/2012 8:49:40 AM     (No. 9017968)

#16, I think he is more of a marbled rye.


Reply 42 - Posted by: uno, 11/16/2012 8:52:30 AM     (No. 9017978)

Sounds like it´s about time they unionized the unemployed!
Ya know you just can´t make an omelet unless you break a few golden eggs...
Doltz!


Reply 43 - Posted by: Refried, 11/16/2012 8:53:01 AM     (No. 9017979)

Enjoy!


Reply 44 - Posted by: federale, 11/16/2012 8:53:23 AM     (No. 9017980)

With unemployment compensation, food stamps, medicaid, Section 8 housing assistance, unearned income tax credit, etc., the laid-off Hostess employees will do quite well. They will also have plenty of time to sharpen their skiing, tennis, and golfing skills.


Reply 45 - Posted by: coldoc, 11/16/2012 8:53:56 AM     (No. 9017983)

Union greed mentality is precisely what got obama reelected. Ir is pervasive and will take generations to breed out. The idiots will have to learn the for-profit corporation is not the enemy.


Reply 46 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 11/16/2012 8:54:27 AM     (No. 9017985)

What about strike/severance pay? That´s it, the compassionate union management will come through for the laid off union workers. “Happy Holidays” from your union bosses. /sar


Reply 47 - Posted by: jimmyfoxhound, 11/16/2012 8:56:51 AM     (No. 9017992)

I´d love to see Romney come in and buy Hostess and turn it around, that would be amazing


Reply 48 - Posted by: zoidberg, 11/16/2012 8:57:03 AM     (No. 9017994)

Unions, continuing to win friends.

/s


Reply 49 - Posted by: Tillster, 11/16/2012 8:57:05 AM     (No. 9017995)

No #15 and #16. I think it was a ding dong.


Reply 50 - Posted by: Hermoine, 11/16/2012 8:58:43 AM     (No. 9017999)

Looks like Hostess just went John Galt on their collective Union...rear-end.


Reply 51 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/16/2012 9:01:24 AM     (No. 9018004)

Hey Union Thugs, hows that Obamacare working out for ya?


Reply 52 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 11/16/2012 9:05:43 AM     (No. 9018016)

I saw their CEO on TV this morning. One big roadblock to surviving was the union work rules. They had to have separate employees doing every little task, which drove up labor costs way higher than necessary.


Reply 53 - Posted by: lil dotty, 11/16/2012 9:08:32 AM     (No. 9018022)

Hostess - RIP You were very much a part of my childhood days. You will be missed.

Thanks for nothing Union thugs. This should certainly help Two Won get those unemplyment numbers to change.


Reply 54 - Posted by: coobr03, 11/16/2012 9:10:05 AM     (No. 9018024)

There were many different unions at Hostess and very restrictive work issues. For instance, Twinkies and Wonder Bread going to the same store had to be delivered by two different drivers on the different trucks. None of the unions wanted to negotiate, figuring it would make them weaker with other companies.


Reply 55 - Posted by: lifelonghuman, 11/16/2012 9:12:15 AM     (No. 9018028)

Things started to go downhill after they made the yellow Snoballs one Easter. What were they thinking?


Reply 56 - Posted by: dolphin, 11/16/2012 9:15:32 AM     (No. 9018037)

I feel for those in that union who had no choice.


Reply 57 - Posted by: Salt5792, 11/16/2012 9:30:51 AM     (No. 9018085)

One more prosperous business destroyed by unions.


Reply 58 - Posted by: JoeUser, 11/16/2012 9:31:06 AM     (No. 9018086)

Sad part of all this is that it´s not just jobs at Hostess that take the hit. Large bakeries (as well as other large production companies) often produce products for other companies´ brands, for efficiency of scale.

So, this will have a ripple effect to other baked goods companies, as well. Their product lines may experience shortages while they try to establish a different manufacturing source. Also, the shutdown also affects ancillary jobs, such as suppliers for Hostess and service businesses for the plant, etc..

Good for you, unions. You really showed management this time, didn´t ya? Hope y´all are happy this holiday season.


Reply 59 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 11/16/2012 9:34:59 AM     (No. 9018093)

56 - they all had choices. The Union scum made a bad one.


Reply 60 - Posted by: fiesta del sol, 11/16/2012 9:40:28 AM     (No. 9018106)

How many companies have announced layoffs since last Tuesday? 18,000 in one day with Hostess. I would say Obama built that, but really the media built that. Congrats, MSNBC, Scarborough, Brian Williams, Soledad O´Brien...lying about Republicans and protecting King Obama has worked out well.


Reply 61 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/16/2012 9:45:19 AM     (No. 9018117)

I suggest that States declare the schools bankrupt and close to re-organize.
Their pensions are breaking the backs of the working people, and they are failing to educate the children.


Reply 62 - Posted by: AnnG, 11/16/2012 9:48:20 AM     (No. 9018129)

Is Texas a right to work state?


Reply 63 - Posted by: Bjnealeigh, 11/16/2012 9:54:47 AM     (No. 9018154)

Too bad
So sad
You´re mad
I´m glad!
I don´t feel sorry for idiots!


Reply 64 - Posted by: Distorted, 11/16/2012 9:56:25 AM     (No. 9018163)

For the unions, obviously half-a-loaf is not better than none.


Reply 65 - Posted by: LAW428, 11/16/2012 9:57:09 AM     (No. 9018168)

A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever." John Adams in a letter to Abigail Adams (17 July 1775 )


Reply 66 - Posted by: Pocket Aces, 11/16/2012 10:05:46 AM     (No. 9018194)

#33

You stated tat management caused the mess. Well, if that´s true, tough [DELETED]. Management has to deal with many, many headaches just to keep any factory open here in the USSA.

Yes, the greedy union was the final nail in the Hostess coffin. In short; the parasites killed the host(ess)

We do NOT use bad langage here. LCom Staff.


Reply 67 - Posted by: tearza, 11/16/2012 10:13:52 AM     (No. 9018222)

I belong to a union for 34 yrs. They took 40 dollars a month for union dues and told me who to vote for in their monthly pamplet. The company had 20,000 employees. where in the hell did all of that money go...We did not get any from the union when we retired...


Reply 68 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/16/2012 10:26:27 AM     (No. 9018261)

What a terrific article on something that had to happen and will need to happen more if we are to free our country from the unions´ stranglehold.

This one ended up pitting the Teamsters (7500 Hostess employees who agreed to reduced wages and benefits) and the smaller Bakers union (5000 employees) who held out and brought the company down. Now all 18,500 employees are unemployed. And when asked if there couldn´t be more negotiation, the Hostess CEO said "Too late".

The Teamsters also said that the Bakers should have voted by secret ballot rather than the voice vote they employed to vote on this. We all know what Obie feels about the secret ballot - dump it - and Trumka came out of the union meeting with Obie at the WH trumpeting that the secret ballot would go away soon.

I applaud Hostess´s management for their courage. I call them patriots.


Reply 69 - Posted by: grambo, 11/16/2012 10:54:49 AM     (No. 9018352)

Ayn Rand must be chorkling in Heaven right now.


Reply 70 - Posted by: NYbob, 11/16/2012 11:30:38 AM     (No. 9018448)

#33, you are funny. Do you have any idea of what is required to pay out a payroll week after week? Look at your feet they are entangled in the whole OWS, Obamanation, Union card check/intimidation, corporate greed, mindset that has ´changed´ the economy into some kind of moronic worker ´utopia´ that is code for crony capitalism. This grand plan gives up green energy companies that suck half a billion dollars out of your tax money and produce NOTHING. This brilliant ´fair´ thinking hands out exemptions for the unconstitutional ´tax´ of obamacare so those who pay or who made this horror get useful health care and you get a waiting list and aspirin.

Yeah, you hit it, this company is folding because it´s a management issue. Hey, maybe you can call some friends and hire ONE of the unemployed Hostess workers. Show the world how to ´manage.´


Reply 71 - Posted by: bullhead, 11/16/2012 11:39:18 AM     (No. 9018467)

This story reminded me of the demise of a fine airline, Eastern Airlines. It was brought down by the International Association Of Machinists & Aerospace Workers union when the company was faced with the increased competition of the Carter deregulated airline industry.


Reply 72 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 11/16/2012 11:53:02 AM     (No. 9018501)

#62 Texas is a right to work state but much of the production was located in closed shop states. When the story first broke about this, the company proposed to keep bakeries going in non-union locations but apparently someone told them that it wouldn´t fly (uncle sugar?) So I believe they made the only decision they could under the circumstances.


Reply 73 - Posted by: Marzipan, 11/16/2012 12:36:34 PM     (No. 9018633)

The revolution begins. Folks are waking up. John Galt lives. Bravo Hostess, don´t like your products but if you reorganize under a different name I will buy some.


Reply 74 - Posted by: badrad, 11/18/2012 12:44:39 PM     (No. 9022143)

Gaming the system is so prevalent at the bottom so why not at the top?

Time for the workers to get some of those government jobs that obama is creating---oh, wait, campaign over he is traveling the world building his legacy.

Hope the Twinkie people make enough to live on the Riviera, where they may meet the obamas and Hollywood celebs.

obama has fundamentally changed America as promised and the hope he has given is no hope for the masses that prefer to work to feed the fam.

Hope there is room on the paid for family farms, old homes etc.




Reply 75 - Posted by: badrad, 11/18/2012 12:46:58 PM     (No. 9022149)

Gaming the system is so prevalent at the bottom so why not at the top?

Time for the workers to get some of those government jobs that obama is creating---oh, wait, campaign over he is traveling the world building his legacy.

Hope the Twinkie people make enough to live on the Riviera, where they may meet the obamas and Hollywood celebs.

obama has fundamentally changed America as promised and the hope he has given no hope or the hope that there is room on the paid for family farms, old homes etc.





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Politico, by Reid J. Epstein    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/23/2013 10:08:52 PM     Post Reply
President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration´s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs. Nuland, a career foreign service officer who was until recently State´s top spokesperson, had long been expected to be nominated the post to replace Philip Gordon, who Obama picked to serve as Middle East coordinator for the National Security Council. Nuland´s nomination -- which requires Senate confirmation -- could come under scrutiny from Republicans who see her as playing a central role in shaping

Anthony Weiner says Houston
psychiatric facility made
him ‘a new man’

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Houston Chronicle, by Nicole Narea    Original Article
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Anthony Weiner’s New York mayoral candidacy was only made more improbable today after he revealed that he visited a Houston psychiatric facility following his resignation from Congress in 2011. Haunted by scandal surrounding his sexually explicit online communications with women, the Democratic former congressman sought treatment for his compulsive behavior from mental health professionals at the Gabbard Center. According to its website, the facility provides “3-day outpatient psychiatric evaluation,” particularly to “professionals who are in personal or professional crises.” While Weiner did not disclose

Mark Levin: "RINO" Issa Didn´t
Investigate IRS Before Because
He "Despises The Tea Party"

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Real Clear Politics, by Ian Schwartz    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/24/2013 5:38:38 PM     Post Reply
MARK LEVIN: So why didn´t Chairman Issa hold an investigative hearing a year ago? Why didn´t Chairman Camp, all Republicans, hold an investigative hearing a year ago, and all the other tripping over themselves right now? I´ll tell you why. Because the establishment Republicans, the RINO Republicans, despise the Tea Party. They despise the conservative movement. We exist to be managed, to be shuttled to the polling place, to vote for their candidates. The Karl Roves of the world, and all the rest of them. They fight us in the primaries, they fight us at the grassroots.

Fox News’s Roger Ailes responds
to Justice Dept. investigation

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Washington Post, by Erik Wemple    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 5/23/2013 11:00:19 PM     Post Reply
Fox News chief Roger Ailes has sent a memo to his subordinates at the leading cable news network. He sent this memo to his staff today in connection with the federal investigation into an alleged leak to Fox News reporter James Rosen, a story that the Washington Post’s Ann E. Marimow broke earlier this week. The memo’s a masterpiece, too. For all those who wonder what it is about Ailes that endears his people to him — and that makes him such a good interviewee for any media reporter lucky enough to get an audience

Obama Asks Staff to
Start Cc’ing Him on Stuff

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New Yorker, by Andy Borowitz    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 5/24/2013 5:31:36 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON —In a dramatic departure from existing White House procedures, President Obama requested today that his staff start cc’ing him on stuff. “Look, I know a lot of you think I’m really busy and you don’t want to bother me,” the President reportedly told his staff in an Oval Office meeting. “But cc me anyway. It’s good for me to keep up on what’s going on around here.” “It’s not good when I turn on the news and they’re talking about something at the White House and I’m like, whoa, when did that happen?”


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