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Republicans lost the ground game
Washington Times, by Brian J. Wise

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 11/11/2012 10:13:15 AM

The Monday morning quarterbacking has already begun over the makeup of the Republican Party. Brace yourself for calls to “moderate” or become more “inclusive” and endless explanations for why the GOP lost one demographic or another. Make no mistake: President Obama’s reelection was a victory for a campaign, not a candidate. (Snip) The president won, not based on the strength of his record (weak), his agenda (more of the same), or because of the shifting priorities of a nation (jobs and the economy are still number one). He won because of the misallocation of resources by Republican donors

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Dems are much better at dragging their voters to the polls, even if they are kicking and screaming.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Anner40, 11/11/2012 10:30:59 AM     (No. 9006963)

All afraid of losing the free stuff...no other reason makes sense....

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 11/11/2012 10:36:32 AM     (No. 9006977)

Bull! No one will ever convince me that this election wasn´t stolen. Look at the numbers in Pt. St. Lucie and Philly. Lets face it folks, we are dealing with an evil regime that will never give up power. Oh, by the way, it helps when you have 95% of the national media covering you ass.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ret.TxLeo, 11/11/2012 10:38:50 AM     (No. 9006982)

Nice try...times..the election was bought and paid for by o.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Coy860, 11/11/2012 10:39:19 AM     (No. 9006984)

St. Lucie County, FL vote counts over 100% of registered voters at every polling place..in one instance, 162% of registered voters cast a ballot.
The democrats can and will fix elections.
Obama cheated his way in because he couldn´t win honestly.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Namma, 11/11/2012 10:51:27 AM     (No. 9007017)

obamas was a victory for campaign...ha
obamas was a victory for fixing the vote count....

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Reply 6 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 11/11/2012 10:51:37 AM     (No. 9007018)

What post 3 said. Plus the GOP is fractionalized. Rinos like Christie cause friction, but conservatives are well advised to back off rinos at least in short term, as guys like like Christie and Scott Brown are as good as it can ever get in places like NJ and MA. Furthermore the rejection of Lugar and nomination of idealogues in Indiana and Missouri clearly cost us 2 senate seats. Although the tea party did us some good, it needs to be reigned in.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: norcalvet, 11/11/2012 10:58:32 AM     (No. 9007031)

You all said it for me....massive voter fraud. Ulsterman has a video of a man testifying under oath how elections could be stolen and no one would ever know. No doubt in my mind this is what happened. The numbers don´t add up, and the crowds showing up at campaign stops don´t add up. RR packed the house, ob played to 1/2 filled venues. Something really stinks here, electronic voting needs to go. WAY too easy to mess with. And mess they did. IMHO.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mabeldog, 11/11/2012 11:08:31 AM     (No. 9007058)

The election was "won" because the Democrats concentrated their "efforts" on ghetto inner city polls where there are no Republican poll watchers or the ones that do go,like I did in inner city Cleveland are thrown out for nothing. That way the poll workers who are paid and the Democratic "observers" are free to pack the ballot box by helping people vote which I witnessed. I called the Romney legal department all day but really don´t blame them it was so widespread. The Dems have figured out every Presidential election is won in the 11 swing states, start screaming in July about how not extending early voting is racist which is another great way to harvest votes using names on the voter list and getting someone to vote for that person. I believe they calculate how many votes it will take to carry the swing states and start stepping. Until more Republicans are willing to poll watch in the ghetto in the swing states I don´t see a Republican president again.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 11/11/2012 11:21:46 AM     (No. 9007082)

Enough already with the post-election autopsy!!! It is what it is, and we´re stuck with it. We´ll either survive this Marxist regime as a people and a nation, or we won´t.

If we don´t [and I think don´t], then we´ll have to do what we´ve done before: pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and rise from the ashes.

I refuse to believe that a Halfrican Marxist can really "ruin" the nation. He can do damage --a lot of damage, but he can not sink up.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: MattMusson, 11/11/2012 11:24:40 AM     (No. 9007091)

Now all of America can be more like Chicago.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 11/11/2012 11:24:52 AM     (No. 9007093)

I agree #9. The GOP is simply out of the loop. The Dems are smarter, faster and more conniving. Of course, it helps to have the MSM in your back pocket. I too can not see a republican in the WH again. It`s like trying to climb a mountain with no equipment. When hard work is frowned upon and free stuff becomes the norm all is lost.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: armywife85, 11/11/2012 11:26:47 AM     (No. 9007095)

I too am sick of the finger pointing going on. The GOP is a party divided and until something is done about that we will continue to lose.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 11/11/2012 11:40:47 AM     (No. 9007126)

In a way it is funny - all the snickering by the dims about winning big - THEY forget that they have to live under old flapears reign too. He is stupid beyond belief and is surrounded by crooks just as stupid. The dims will turn on him in a minute if they do not get their freebies and pats on the head. Frankly, I agree with others that he did not win at all. We will all suffer for the mistakes made at the polls.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 11/11/2012 11:41:16 AM     (No. 9007128)

Guys, STOP with the BS about conservatives "not getting out there" or "off message" or we had a "weak, non-conservative candidate"or "real conservatives didn´t vote".

We lost because we have a tipping point of producers and takers; couple that with blacks voting the race line and latinos voting for who they think will give them amnesty and freebies, along with of course women voting with their sex organs, and you have a win.

Why is that so hard to accept? Some of you sound like you just got beaten up by the bully, so let´s analyze what we did wrong and appease the bully next time? The problem is the bully, not your "message".

You don´t like it? Yell at your neighbor. They´re the ones that pulled the lever to put this guy back into office. Attend no concert, no movie, nothing put out their by liberals. Really want to pi$$ them off? Love your kids and go to church. Win in spite of the government, not because of it.

And most of all, put the blame where it belongs. Everything else is BS to fill space and air time.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: QRP, 11/11/2012 11:54:22 AM     (No. 9007153)

The election is over. We might as well face it, this is what it is going to be from now on. Time to turn our attention to ourselves and our families.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: disasterman, 11/11/2012 12:03:09 PM     (No. 9007166)

The ground game being fraud. The election was lost before it started.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bob913, 11/11/2012 12:04:55 PM     (No. 9007171)

By never repeating how corrupt obama and the democrats are over and over the Republicans put obama on their level.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 11/11/2012 12:12:00 PM     (No. 9007189)

After World War I, the German people came to believe the "stab in the back" myth, which went like this: "We didn´t lose the war. We were on the verge of victory when opportunistic politicians stabbed our military leaders in the back by negotiating an unnecessary armistice and betraying their country." Although false, the myth was widely promoted by self-serving Generals and believed by the German people. This myth polluted German culture for a generation and doomed any effort to base German politics on reality in the inter-war years.

I do not deny that Democrats cheat; I do find it implausible that their cheating concealed a massive Romney victory. For months polls showed Mitt losing in the swing states. The Romney Campaign ran on the assumption that these polls, based on 2008, were incorrect. Everything Team Romney did wrong was based on the delusion that they were secretly winning. And then they bungled the Get Out The Vote operation. In reality, Romney got fewer votes than McCain. The Romney Campaign literally had no campaign slogan. Look at the posters. No message on the air, and a mess on the ground. The only good thing about mistakes is you can learn from them. If you´re smart.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: killerbee, 11/11/2012 12:17:43 PM     (No. 9007207)

#3: I agree with you. If the Republicans can´t attack fraud immediately and get a fair election up in four years then ground game won´t matter. This election was absolutely stolen. CO had ten counties with more than 100% voter participation that went 100% for Obama. Philly had similar. FL had it, and I don´t doubt VA had it as well. OH definitely had it. Those were states Romney could have (and should have) won and that would have won the election. Very shady stuff.

It will take a massive effort to clean up our elections. The UN, of all people, actually handed us a good weapon in their shock at our loose election standards. Take it and clean this mess up.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ruready?, 11/11/2012 12:30:21 PM     (No. 9007233)

You never lose if you do not lose your principles.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 11/11/2012 12:35:17 PM     (No. 9007239)

I noticed that the Romney people were wasting a lot of time and money in contacting, over and over again, the same supporters.

I have been a Romney contributor since 2008. They had to have known that I was a sure vote. I got tons of emails from them, phone calls for contributions and phone calls to urge me to vote. All of that was wasted. They should not have spent one second of their time on me.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: buckhorn_cortez, 11/11/2012 12:41:18 PM     (No. 9007253)

Yet again...whine, whine, whine about "stolen elections" - yet the GOP does nothing about it...except whine. Losers who take NO STEPS to make sure the game is fair deserve to lose.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: bpl40, 11/11/2012 12:44:11 PM     (No. 9007261)

Close to 8 million voter abandoned 0bama this time. Romney couldn´t field one single one of them. Instead lost 3 million that turned up for McCain. That is pathetic. 23% of an all adult poll (roughly 210 million) identified themselves as Tea Party members or supporters. That is a staggering 48 million people. If the Leadership hadn´t spent two years busily alienating these people none of this would have happened.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: CEP, 11/11/2012 12:53:10 PM     (No. 9007287)

This doesn´t make or break the Republican party nor conservatives. There are a lot of states that have picked up Republican/Conservative majorities and don´t forget the governorships. Local and state offices are now Republican so it starts locally.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chance_232, 11/11/2012 1:16:38 PM     (No. 9007315)

I beg to differ! 3+ million Republicans decided to stay home and not vote. Its not the candidates responsibility to get your sorry fat behind to the polls...it´s YOURS.

To the millions of so called Republicans, congratulations.......you sold out the country, it´s veterans and fellow patriots for "principle". Congratulations!

The only people that irritate me more than stupid Obama voters are republicans that cant pull the lever for a Mormon......or for a candidate that isn´t conservative enough for them. Followed by the libertarians who threw away their vote for legalized pot and and end to an alliance with Israel.

CONGRATULATIONS!!! Now we are forever stuck with an ever expanding welfare state. I dont ever again want to hear from these jackasses who complain about RINO´s and didnt vote.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 11/11/2012 1:25:48 PM     (No. 9007327)

The Repubs didn´t lose because of a "misallocation of resources by Republican donors". They lost because of a population of young women and college students who know about as little as anybody, under-ducated, underemployed and undermotivated people who wanted cell phones, etc. (These shall be known as career Democratic voters),closet Mormon haters, klunks who stayed at home (you knows who you is),and half fast jackasses who voted for third party candidates, such as Bugs Bunny.
Truly, we are at the mercy of knaves and idiots.

Additional moral: If you don´t vote and they do, they will win. I don´t want to hear any whinin´ from ya.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: gop_guys, 11/11/2012 1:58:44 PM     (No. 9007380)

What 15 said. Curious if the Ron Paul voters showed. There were evangelicals that had a problem with Romney. Lots of true conservatives wouldn´t vote for what they saw as a moderate candidate. Is it true that 20 million pubbies stayed at home? My gut feeling is no Washington politician is going to fix things. It will take a grass root movement.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: obviousity, 11/11/2012 2:17:30 PM     (No. 9007405)

To paraphrase Pauline Kael: I know of only one person who voted for Obama.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: pickle1, 11/11/2012 2:39:02 PM     (No. 9007437)

Oh please, it was the people who lost and not because of any ground game. It was fraud pure and simple.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: postaway, 11/11/2012 3:05:31 PM     (No. 9007484)

We are always going to be behind the 8 ball when we have a corrupt media. I´m sure you all have noticed that FEMA´s pathetic response to Hurricane Sandy has not been scrutinized, nor Obama blamed. We have only heard about how the hurricane helped him win reelection. Gov. Cuomo actually lauded FEMA´s response and he has received no criticism that I know of. Joe Biden can say the stupidest things and it´s just Joe being Joe. I know it is pointless to whine about it, but it is the truth. I remember when a friend´s son was forced into a divorce by an adulterous spouse. The young man was heartbroken and depressed and my friend told me he knew his son wouldn´t start healing until he got angry. He finally did and then he got over it. We are like that young man. We are lied about (Republicans hate immigrants) laughed at, marginalized and we just take it. Our leaders continue to be polite and wait their turn. They never call their opponents liars. At some point they and we will have to find our righteous indignance and fight back every time we´re attacked.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/11/2012 3:24:27 PM     (No. 9007524)

One thing is for sure the wimpy Republicans are not going to win future elections by becoming the Democrat Light Party and handing the liberal Democrats many millions of prospective new foreign born socialist oriented voters by way of a massive amnesty for illegal aliens. That´s just good common sense.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: thelmalou, 11/11/2012 3:25:55 PM     (No. 9007529)

I agree with #19, #24, #26, and #27.


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Reply 33 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/11/2012 9:21:11 PM     (No. 9008070)

To make it worse, I was told by a Mormon yesterday not to think all Mormons voted for Romney either. She had been telling me at various times last year that more Mormons are liberal-minded in her stake than I might ever believe. So, there is plenty of blame to go round.

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