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Topic: The October Surprise |
The October Surprise
PJ Media, by Michael Ledeen
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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/21/2012 5:02:56 AM
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| The New York Times reports (and the White House denies) that “The United States and Iran have agreed for the first time to one-on-one negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, according to Obama administration officials, setting the stage for what could be a last-ditch diplomatic effort to avert a military strike on Iran.” Two of the three assertions in that lead paragraph are demonstrably false. One-on-one negotiations have been going on for years (most recently, according to my friend “Reza Kahlili,” in Doha, where, he was told, Valerie Jarrett and other American officials recently traveled for the latest talks).
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Spidey, 10/21/2012 5:10:06 AM (No. 8949380)
I think Obama has been talking to Iran directly for along time,forget the back channel crap.There's too many Islamists counting on Iran to destroy Israel and a deal with the west would look extremely bad on the mullahs. I mean that wouldn't stop Obama from striking a phoney deal for the election but he's still in their corner in a macro sense.
Allowing inspectors in would be a fool's mission but it would be a likely part of a deal.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Lala, 10/21/2012 5:10:57 AM (No. 8949381)
Does anyone else find it disturbing to think of Valerie Jarrett "representing" the interests if the United States in talks with Iran?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
pineledger, 10/21/2012 5:54:26 AM (No. 8949409)
Exactly, 2 -- what business does Valerie Jarrett have representing the US?
Ambassadors have to go through security clearance and confirmation. All we know about her is that she's a Chicago slum lord.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 10/21/2012 6:37:51 AM (No. 8949448)
Seriously, is there anyone stupid enough to believe there could be genuine peace talks with the Iranians two weeks before an election that looks like it's going to take out their #1 protector? I mean come onnnnn.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 10/21/2012 6:57:41 AM (No. 8949463)
For the unstupid, here's the key factoid...Valerie Jarrett's birthplace was Shiraz, Iran. Interesting, no?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Kitty Myers, 10/21/2012 7:06:35 AM (No. 8949470)
#4 & #5 BINGO!
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Muguy, 10/21/2012 7:14:02 AM (No. 8949474)
Is this Faroah Obama's Richard Nixon/Henry Kissinger moment-- "Peace is at hand"?
Or is it Anakin Skywalker's moment when he says "I have brought peace and justice to my new empire"?
Mularkey!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
dagger, 10/21/2012 7:15:31 AM (No. 8949479)
I'm thinking of two words : unilateral appeasement !
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Judith, 10/21/2012 7:32:25 AM (No. 8949505)
If he can only get re-elected, the iranians will have the time they need to finish making the bomb and sending at least one or two to Israel. Don't even want to think where the rest will be headed. I wonder. When history is written, will obama be portrayed as the chamberlain of the USA or as the puppet for our enemies?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
OhMy, 10/21/2012 7:41:05 AM (No. 8949509)
This traitorous administration may well be promising the Iranians more flexibility in the deal after the election. All the more reason to elect Romney as a check on whatever is going on!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bpl40, 10/21/2012 7:56:20 AM (No. 8949531)
Valerie Jarrett's father, Vernon was apparently the closest personal friend of Frank Marshall Davis. This bulb gets more and more poisonous as you peel away the layers.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
jinx, 10/21/2012 8:02:08 AM (No. 8949537)
I can't imagine Valerie leaving Obama's side long enough to go to talks. She goes everywhere with him to make sure he follows the Party line. Afterall, he did sign on the dotted line and joined The New Party,(The Communist Party of Chicago) when he was a Community Organizer. Her father in law was a member of the Chicago Communist Party. Why didn't she have to get National Security clearance in order to see all of our National secrets. I don't like this picture. She answers to no one. He answers to her.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
cake crumb, 10/21/2012 8:10:27 AM (No. 8949550)
Any smoky back room deal between radical Islamists and Obama would result in more Americans being thrown under the bus to become bumps in the road.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
john c, 10/21/2012 8:14:24 AM (No. 8949557)
Please Lord, only 3 more months of this corrupt administration.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
cake crumb, 10/21/2012 8:18:54 AM (No. 8949564)
#5 really? The fact that both the president and secretary of state have arab handlers is terrifying.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
earlybird, 10/21/2012 8:24:40 AM (No. 8949575)
Well, well, well. Real information from someone who knows, who actually participated in talks with Iran. In the mid-1980s.
As Ledeen says, this talk about an agreement has been going on for some time. Condi Rice and Nicholas Burns were left holding the bag in New York , waiting for "the plane to leave Tehran" to bring the Iranians to the U.N. for the signing ceremony. Never happened. In 2006.
So Obie and his minions try a last ditch pre-election attempt to bamboozle us with this nothingburger "leak" on secret negotiations involving Iranian-American Valerie Jarrett.
As Ledeen opines,
So what is happening? The most likely explanation is that Obama is still desperately seeking his grand bargain, the one that would validate his (and the Nobel Committee’s) claim to be a talented peace maker. That deal is not available, because the Iranians don’t want it. But he wants something to show for his efforts, so he settled for a big nothingburger: an agreement to talk some more.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
nimby, 10/21/2012 8:32:50 AM (No. 8949585)
When did we vote for ValJar?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Holeymoses, 10/21/2012 8:34:37 AM (No. 8949588)
Oh, I feel so secure knowing Valerie is on the case. SHe did so well in everything she touched in Chicago. What makes you think she wan't involved in Benghazi, Including the cover-up?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
The Patriot Code, 10/21/2012 8:43:10 AM (No. 8949609)
ValJarJarBinks is probably letting Ahmadinejad know that after the election Hussein will have more flexibility. If anyone close to Mitt is reading this, please implore him to ask Hussein (in tomorrow's foreign policy debate) what he meant when he whispered to Medvedev (and it was picked up on an open mic) to assure Putin that "after the election I will have more flexibility". That is absolutely one of the scariest, most traitorous things I have ever heard, and nobody is talking about it.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
LZK, 10/21/2012 8:44:34 AM (No. 8949614)
I find it "very" disturbing that valerie jarret the iranian is neogotiating for the U. S. of A.
First she was NEVER assigned the job by the Senate and the House -- AND -- she's a woman. The islamist don't like to deal with women. Okay for "qualified women -- like Condi" -- but this one was never confirmed as our representative. Of course hillary's in Peru working on woman's issues -- so I guess they had to send someone....
Talk about pathetic....no wonder the islamist fools are moving on US -- they see US as WEAK...
LZK
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Reilly, 10/21/2012 8:53:28 AM (No. 8949637)
The October Surprise this year already happened. People tuned into the first debate and Mr. Lazy/Stupid was exposed.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
gone2pot, 10/21/2012 9:02:50 AM (No. 8949654)
Communists Vernon Jarrett, Val's father-in-law, Robert Talyor, Val's grampa, and Frank Marshall Davis; Google 'em up and you've got the lover of the United States, Valerie Jarrett. Unelected, appointed by His High Holy Worshipness to represent the United States of America to Iran. 'Nuff said.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Bad Dog, 10/21/2012 9:02:59 AM (No. 8949655)
Fwd: Team Romney Subj: Debate Prep !! Top Priority !!
I trust Team R already know about this but, Joe didn't seem to know there had been congressional testimony under oath the day before his big debate performance, which completely contradicted his claims during his debate, so....
Really makes you wonder what plans he has with Vladimir. Is ValJar already on that one too?!
Even if the mullahs agree to stop their enrichment program, WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THEM? Liars lie. Demons deceive. And muslim orcs rampage and destroy when ordered.
Period.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
dittohead, 10/21/2012 9:08:16 AM (No. 8949666)
No wonder Val Jar has 6 Secret Service officers - protecting her from the Mossad? Just curious!!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
beat the press, 10/21/2012 9:35:00 AM (No. 8949723)
There's nothing more the lunatics in Iran would like better than to have the little man child re-elected. He wants to decimate our military, lead from behind, and put the US on equal footing with all the murderous regimes around the world, it's only "fair". The "professor" doesn't believe in peace through strength, because the chalkboard in the faculty lounge point towards peace through platitudes.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
reefdiver, 10/21/2012 9:36:16 AM (No. 8949728)
Don't forget the scandal that Gloria Allrat is about to send up the flagpole. Should be within the next week or so.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
ScarletPimpernel, 10/21/2012 9:44:54 AM (No. 8949758)
To those wondering about Valerie Jarrett's role vis-a-vis Iran, don't forget she was born in Iran. Like 0bama, she spent her early years in a Muslim country. Make sense now?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
maryc, 10/21/2012 9:53:37 AM (No. 8949796)
Nothing new to selling out America to stay in office. All the freedoms our service people from 1776 on have fought and died for are being offered up by the dirtiest most unAmerican administration in history.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Dixie, 10/21/2012 9:56:08 AM (No. 8949806)
My vote on the "October Surprise" will be the lame duck Contressional session after the elections to push through ratification of treaties Obama HAS ALREADY SIGNED with the UN (Agenda 21) for gun control, energy control, control of the internet, control of our waterways... essentially turning over American sovereignty to the UN.
The House can't vote on ratification of treaties; the lame duck Senate can approve it and it will be law.
From Obama's point of view....if he loses the election, he can still tell himself he achieved his essential goal. It would be the perfect "in your face" parting gesture.
The only counter I can see to it is a House pledge to impeach each and every Senator who votes for any of the sections of Agenda 21.
But then, he might not lose despite the polls... The UN has offered to oversee and ratify the vote in each of the States. The Republican governors will refuse, of course...but are there enough small states with Democrat governors to overcome the popular vote in the Electoral College?
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
synchronicity, 10/21/2012 9:59:39 AM (No. 8949817)
Brilliant strategy by VJ - having spent the past 4 years telling everyone that Iran isn't a problem she now thinks the rumor of "talks" will turn the tide of the election.
1. Those who are going to vote for Obama don't care because they don't think it is a problem - maybe I should have stopped after "think". 2. Those who understand the problem know that whatever the Obama administration will do as far as national security will be to diminish it not strengthen it. These individuals are not voting for Obama come hades or high water. 3. The undecideds who don't think and don't know who to vote for who will break Obama's way just because of "talks" with Iran can be counted on one hand.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
bighambone, 10/21/2012 10:01:31 AM (No. 8949823)
Look for Obama to make some sort of announcement during the debate thinking that he will knock Romney off his stride and make news. But whatever Obama says, does not make it true, substantial, or in the long-term interests of the USA. Obama has been claiming that he has wanted to talk with the Iranians since before he was elected. The Iranians have one mission in mind, obtain a nuclear weapon.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
MickTurn, 10/21/2012 10:05:51 AM (No. 8949832)
Talk just talk...words just words...Obie is nothing but a shill with a big mouth. Get used to it!
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
aposematic, 10/21/2012 10:09:09 AM (No. 8949840)
Iran has pulled this deception how many times before. Oh, don't forget Jarrett's--Obuma's consigliere--family are Iranians.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
enuf8, 10/21/2012 10:26:24 AM (No. 8949891)
The NY sting of the bombers by the FBI with an after thought to say he wanted to "hit" obama first didn't bring any excitement and very little news coverage, the Lybia incident has backfired (and read Larry Sinclair's article) so now we are going to hear he has signed an agreement with Iran for them to stop nuclear enrichment by lifting sanctions (temporarily) to just cover the election time, the polls showing him in a huge lead--pollsters want to save face by actually trying to get closer to what the outcome will be, his entire administration lying every time they flap their jaws, the journ-O-Liars slightly turning on him-----nothing is giving him the desired effects of being in the lead to be re-elected. Even Crowley's help with the last debate was seen as a smoke screen. What's next? Almost forgot, bomb threat at Sidwell School didn't get much life span in media coverage.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
RancherJack, 10/21/2012 10:27:24 AM (No. 8949895)
Israeli Intelligence calls BS on this "story"
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Lawsy0, 10/21/2012 10:32:20 AM (No. 8949911)
Okay, you guys, fess up. Who among us voted for ValJar? She seems to have all the rights and privileges of elected office.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
garyhope, 10/21/2012 10:46:56 AM (No. 8949946)
#8 "unilateral appeasement",.....For Joe Biden, that would be 4 four words. Or 7 or 8 depending on which of the 57 states that he was in or passing through.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Arby, 10/21/2012 10:51:21 AM (No. 8949955)
Dick Morris predicted this. Unless they can find pictures of Mitt presiding over a black mass, they're not gonna git it done.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Tasine, 10/21/2012 11:06:08 AM (No. 8949986)
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
paulfromTexas, 10/21/2012 11:10:04 AM (No. 8949994)
The Iranians are sure to notice that the Jarrett thing is a woman.....and the muhammedans and their respect for the fair sex are well known.... this is all traitorous garbage and these imposters should be jailed for treason
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Phd, 10/21/2012 12:03:49 PM (No. 8950132)
Somehow I don't see a Senate that couldn't produce a single Democrat vote for 0's budgets voting all these alleged UN fealty treaties.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
GreatPlains, 10/21/2012 1:16:31 PM (No. 8950315)
Obama sends a Chicago slum lord to negotiate with Iran ?? Apparently Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan were unavailable. May 2008 Obama dismissed Iran as a threat to the US because it's a " tiny " country. "I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us.." July 2007 "I would [be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of my administration ... with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea ". Hopefully , it's finally dawning on some voters that Obama doesn't know what the heck he's talking about . On anything . Since 2007 ,Obama has been all over the place on Iran ( and every other subject ) -taking one position and they contradicting it the next day and then taking another foolish position and then contradicting that and on and on and on. The mother of all flip floppers and failures is Barack Obama.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
Penney, 10/21/2012 1:41:07 PM (No. 8950368)
Who is that ghostly figure still hovering in the shadows at the 0bama's WH but, ''Valarie Jarret?!!'' ...Trick or treat time? But I digress.
Parse, ''negotiations.'' Considering the history of recent, 'negotiations,' in that region, it does not mean much. ...Certainly not any results regarding demonstrable respect for life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, ''peace and tranquility,'' respect for private property for each individual, much less any, ''good will to all,'' eh?
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
shurnuff, 10/21/2012 1:55:34 PM (No. 8950408)
I wish someone in DC would start the ball rolling on WHY jarret is negotiating ANYTHING for the U.S. And WHY should we the people be paying for round-the-clock Secret Service protection for her.
It's time for obama to fess up! How I wish Breitbart could handle this.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
rc1776, 10/21/2012 1:59:11 PM (No. 8950417)
That wh dissident curtseying queen ∅′blo the blamerette will announce formally that moojoo ahmadinejad bees it's talking points imam. Approved by the Environmentally Friendly Guillotine Ole'factory We offer fun, rapid, timely, and permanent solutions.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
strike3, 10/21/2012 2:32:12 PM (No. 8950502)
Obama's open-mike statement to Medvedev was pure treason. The only thing that has kept the Cold War cold since 1945 was our offensive and defensive missile superiority. Ronald Reagan figured out when to play the final ace and the house of Russia came tumbling down. Russia's greatest goal concerning the U.S. is to eliminate that missile superiority and Obama means to give it to them. There is no quid pro quo for us, he is simply surrendering to Marxism.
As for Iran, they are nothing but an annoying flea without nuclear weapons capability. That is the only thing they have to negotiate with and they are allegedly negotiating with an Iranian who has a tight hold on Obama's short hairs. We simply can not let that happen.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 10/21/2012 2:58:14 PM (No. 8950551)
From living in Iran to '60's radical organizations.. to recruiting Michelle; Jarrett appears to be obama's Muslim Brotherhood "minder".
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
Yephora, 10/21/2012 3:49:12 PM (No. 8950664)
Valerie Jihad can go take a sharia in Mecca for all I care.
America takes the White House back on January 20, 2013.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
sorosisbehindit, 10/21/2012 6:54:50 PM (No. 8950985)
The fact that Iran wants to weigh in on U.S. politics in the final days of the campaign to the advantage of O is all anyone needs to know.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
xcenturion, 10/21/2012 11:30:05 PM (No. 8951393)
Boy I'll bet the people that voted for Obama in '08 are feeling pretty stupid now. To vote for this guy this time around is nothing short of insane. Of course most liberals ARE insane.
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