Most observers seem to agree that the Barack Obama–Mitt Romney–Candy Crowley debate over whether the attack on our Benghazi consulate resulted from terrorism was the low point for the Republican candidate. While Romney turned out to be right on the substance, he was clearly flustered by Crowley’s intervention in Obama’s favor on the question of the president had called the attack an act of terror the day after. An old-time political hand in D.C., whom I know and who has advised and worked on many campaigns, is utterly convinced that the exchange was a setup
FTA: Romney, of course, should go into the next debate assuming that the moderator, as a member of the working media, will have a conscious or unconscious bias against him and will shade things in favor of the incumbent.
Honestly, the way I see it, I thought the gist of this article would be that it was a setup by the ROMNEY campaign for the next debate.
Romney now has the President on record, taking yet another untenable position into the last debate that will FEATURE this topic. The setup is there for Romney to deliver a knockout blow to Obama. Obama has now told the world that he KNEW it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours of the event. Now, that just begs the question as to why the sudden wholesale move to a story that involved a guy with a camcorder and a YouTube account.
If Romney plays this right (and he will, trust me), then Obama has a lot of explaining to do and frankly, there is no answer other than he decided to mount a campaign of disinformation to deflect blame away from his administration. Obama is hung out to dry on this and Obama/Crowley have played an unwitting role in a gambit that will have proven fatal to his campaign.
Why the Fat Lady was allowed to have anything other than DEBATE related material (ground rules, script -- which by the way appears on a telepromter in the screen in front of her -- for opening remarks, etc., a timer -- also in view of candidates --, or the questions of the audience) should never have been allowed.
But the Fat Lady was telegraphing for at least a week that she intended to disregard the agreed-upon rules of the debate. Of course, Obama agreed to change the rules in the middle of the game, so Romney was forced to acquiese to the Fat Lady's whims.
Fat Lady should have been thanked for her prior willingness to moderate and another RAT infested media whore should have been selected for the job once she determined she could not do the job as required.
Curiously, Candy Crowley is on RECORD, two weeks ago during Sunday program, asking someone at the WH why it took so long to clarify "terrorist" activity responsible NOT uTube ditty. Odd that this is not being used in Mr. Yoo's article and many others. Obviously, since she pointed this out then, she was covering for zero at the debate. Just saying...
No matter what happened, Obama and crew have been deceptive with the American people since the 9/11/12 Banghazi terrorist attack about what actually occurred. Being a smart ass in the last debate about that by parsing the words he uttered on 9/12/12 is not going to save him and his administration. Most likely he will not figure that out until the votes are counted on election day.
At Debates.org, in the lower left (isn't that a coincidence) corner, there is a link to send a message. I suggest that everyone does to voice their displeasure at this shameless biased display because clearly there was coordination between Crowley and Obama.
The article doesn't mention Crowley held up some sheet of paper as she defended Obama. Its still unclear to me if that was the transcript, but it sure appeared to be. In any case, from Romney's perspective, it would have looked like she was reading directly from the transcript, which further put Romney at a disadvantage.
To me, the proof that this was a setup was Obama's saying "Proceed Governor" with a wise-guy grin when Romney started to bring up the issue. You could tell he had some trick up his sleeve, and sure enough, that was the queue for Crowley to dig out the transcript to discredit what Romney was about to say. Too bad Romney didn't have time to ask why, if the President believed it was an "act of terror," he and his lackeys spent the next 14 days trying to deny it. My hope is that this issue won't day, but will come back to bite the administration in the days ahead.
Arrogant Obama played his hand one debate too early. He needed to have Schieffer have the transcripts at the ready, and make his bold assertion (lie) in the third debate. Now he's tipped his hand, allowed Romney a few days to regain his balance on the issue, develop an ironclad Benghazi offense and prosecute it next Monday night. Typical Obama... He thinks tactically, not strategically. In his arrogance, he fights battles cleverly, runs victory laps and then loses the war.
I took Obama's "Proceed, Governor" in a completely different manner. Romney was personally confronting him at the time and my initial sense was that Obama just wanted Romney to move on and not put him on the spot. It was a very interesting exchange to be sure.
And, now with Obama's insistence upon having known it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours of the event (as he SHOULD have known, frankly) that opens up a world of hurt on the obfuscation that ensued for the next 14 days from multiple persons under Obama's direct control.
Again, if Romney plays this right (and I have every reason to believe that he will) then Obama is in yet another indefensible position.
For the chess players out there, Romney has a knight fork on O's King & Queen. And you can stick that fork in Obama when it is over for he will be done.
WOLF BLITZER: Candy did what she was told: set Romney up or she’d become a stringer in Nairobi. SCOTT PELLEY: I’m getting ticked. Carney just gave me a list of election night analysts acceptable to the White House. BOB SCHIEFFER: On Monday, I’m supposed to ask Romney if he has any concerns about a Mormon in the Oval Office who is subject to his church’s elders. There’s also a court order restraining me from coming within 500 feet of Obama with a question which might appear harmless but could be used to bludgeon him. BRIAN WILLIAMS: Remember when it was collaborative? DIANE SAWYER: Yeah. Wasn’t so long ago they rolled over in the morning and kissed us and said they still respected us. BLITZER: I’m tired of sucking up to these people. JIM LEHRER: Look, we’re all progressives, but it’s way past time we put journalistic integrity before bootlicking. SAWYER: Agreed. Let’s get our reputations back by reporting the news instead of spinning it. BLITZER: I’m in. People, we have been flaming hypocrites for a long time. Time to make amends. WILLIAMS: Join hands. Let’s remember what Benjamin Franklin wrote in 1776: ''We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.''
[Williams’ cell rings]
Hello. What? Damn! [hangs up] Word's already out we're turning. Starting tonight, NBC Nightly News is on a five minute tape delay.
Jack Cashill has a similar article as well at American Thinker. The fact is the MSM in person of Crow-ley told a lie to defend Obama. That is the 'tipping point' from yesterday. The press has been telling lies to help Obama and his so called presidency. They are liars assisting a liar in chief. And she knew she was lying to defend Obama. It was arranged for sure. This is also why the MSM has become an enemy to our country and our freedoms.
The sad part of all this is that she has been shuttled to the sidelines of media like so many women because we get older, puffier, and no longer 'relevant to men', if you will.
Rather than come on as an equal and make a name for herself as a feminist icon by holding them both to the fire, she ingratiated herself to men in such a way as to prop him up and diminish her stature.
How could Obama and Crowley think that we would be so credulous as to believe this obviously pre-planned exchange? When did Crowley abandon her previous statements of delay in calling it terror? This is grade school level chicanery.
Having worked for a major media company for almost decades, I tend to chalk up such things to garden variety bias and not conspiracy. But, this really smells like a set up. The coincidences are just too fantastic.
We sit and watch and have apoplexy. Enough is enough. The biased moderators are an insult to this nation and all it was built on. Carrying their agenda into the arena is the height of unfairness. Why have the Republicans tolerated this horse plop all these years?
I suggest that the debate format be changed. There should be TWO moderators; one chosen from each side.
Hate to say it, but this is what I thought right off the bat. Obama's confident "get the transcript"( twice) and Crowley just happening to HAVE the transcript is just too pat......I think the author lets her off the hook way too easily. She is a long term political newsperson, not some kid just off the boat, so she must have sensed her prepping, and at least tacitly agreed------and there is still the fact that she HAD the transcript at the ready. She is a huge embarrassment, but CNN is even more so for being so proud of her, constant interruptions during ROMNEY's key points non withstanding.
Romney will have the facts on his side on Monday. My only hope is that he never turns to ask obama a question.. that only gives the one a chance to respond and lie. Just keep driving home the simple facts, and question rhetorically.
More interesing is the fact that Obama was well aware that Crowley had the transcript on hand .... as he breathlessly awaited the moment when he his debating partner, Candy, could spring a surprise against Mitt.
The WH/CNN team made the mistake of thinking that the sort of chicanery that they get away with on their Honey Boo Boo audience doesn’t fly in the debate forum. Honey Boo Boo’s don’t watch debates – serious people do, and they don’t fall for cheap tricks. Once again, the exploding cigar singes Obama’s eyebrows.
#11, I saved the debate transcript and plan to go through and count. The most obvious to me was when Romney was talking about Fast & Furious. OBAMA: Candy? And lo and behold Candy interrupted Romney & cut him off.
At this point, there is little question that there was collusion. The only questions remaining pertain to the extent, the depth, and the breadth of the collusion. The results have been plain for all to see, but as SOP for this administration, there is obfuscation up front, and frantic cleanup in the backgruund.
Obama is a snake. So are all of the self-appointed elitist liberals who control 90% of the American media. I am so sick of these "socialism for thee, not for me" multimillionaires (Chris Matthews comes right to mind), beyond their hypocrisy, they have made a catastrophic mess of our country.
You never expect to be lied to, in a flagrant way, in public. It's startling and decentering. In this case, however, it represents serious grist for the foreign policy debate. This one is going to be biting Fauxbama's skinny butt, big time.
The so called "main stream press" IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. The Cow Crowley proved her socialist O slanting shamelessly. The really weak TV link is that FoxTVNews, for all the good they do, will not slam their fellow union newscasters along with their enemy politicians. On FoxTVNews, and most of unionized talk radio, Diane Sawyer and the entire Old Media crew get a virtual pass. The TV Mafia Media is the Protection Racket for all of the Beltway greed and crimes. The New Breitbartian Media attack must be versus ALL crooked politicians, bureaucrats, the Fed, etc, along with the commies in the traitorous old media. If the Diane Sawyers were honest to their audience, we would not be in the severe mess we find ourselves. The Benghazi Lie is the most recent and frightening issue to throw at all the Diane Sawyers. This is as obvious a dishonest, blatant cover up as any reasonable person will ever need to see the work of TV network traitors to the truth.
In reading the many good comments on the subject today, I've seen several that presume Governor Romney will try to make his point again about what President Obama knew and when he knew it, i.e., ''...if Romney plays this right, and I have every reason to believe that he will...''
Certainly he has the ammunition to create what many of us see as a huge problem for President Obama and his White House cabal: please explain why for weeks they chose to blame a distasteful video as the cause of the Benghazi Conulate attack if the President, in fact, did initially label it a terror attack as he and CNN's Candy Crowely claimed.
Will Governor Romney take the opportunity? Or instead pressure the President on his total lack of leadership in the Iranian nuclear issue?
I guess we will know soon enough; Monday is a few days away.
The reason urkel kept looking down during the first debate was that a staff member had planted an iPad in his podium earlier to coach him and feed info. Long after the first debate was over and the stage cleared, cameras caught the same staffer retrieving the device. At the second debate, Candy was invited to the WH before hand and coached what to do when (not if) urkel got in trouble. Hence, the 'Candy...' prompts from Urkel and then she jumped right in and cut of Romney. An orchestrated ballet. These are wicked, evil people.
More interesting, still, is that Obama's answer to the Town Hall question was irrelevant, which means that the supposed transcript to support it was also irrelevant. (Town Hall participant, Kerry Ladka, asked 'who denied the embassy's request for aid on 9/11/12, and why').
How did Crowley know Obama was going to give an irrelevant answer?
It was reported here earlier in the week that Crowley had visited the White House the Sunday before the debate. It's almost as if they agreed that if the subject of Benghazi came up, this would be their answer, 'and stick with it.'
If Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr. hasn't been contacted and a demand made to clean up the so-called ''debates'' and eliminate the current two-on-one venue before Monday, he should be... someone of us here must know how to find him. It's way past time IMO!
Leave us not forget that when Candy "got the transcript" as directed, a certain First Lady in the audience broke rules and of course decorum and started the forbidden clapping. The kerry stuff is intriguing! He sure loves the limelight and in subsequent interviews he does not seem the least bit undecided to me. A koolaid drinker fer sure.
Romney will be ready to knock it out of the park at the final debate. No reason to go for the knockout in the 2nd debate. Save it for the final. I think Romney will be prepared and they are keeping Obama off balance. He could have creamed him this week, but why give him time to recover? Do it in the final debate. Romney is no dope.
I don't think Obama actually said during the debate that he called Benghazi an act of terror. He had Crowley do that for him. All he asked was that Romney proceed. Then he asked Crowley to look at the transcript (how did he know she had it in front of her?). When she said that he'd called it terror, he DID NOT agree with her. He just asked for her to repeat it more loudly.
Crowley did the dirty work for Obama, who could then say "I never said that" in subsequent debates and interviews.
At some time Crowley has to be questioned about how she happened to have the transcript and how she didn't have to open the transcript to state that Obama did use the word terror. Surely this will happen??
Look at the exchange between Crowley et al with the MUTE off.You can see her scripted motions, to wit: move hands here,stand up, move hands/arms there--totally scripted appearing.Like a magician distracts from what is said by arm/hand movements. In '08 Obama gave Obama and Hillary the finger by rubbing his cheek with his middle finger-Hillary in the primary and M'cain during the debates. The audience laughed both times.The finger was the side away from the moderator but the audience of morons caught it. This time, Crowley was invited to the WH acc to reports on Sunday. That was when the rehearsal took place. She even has WH docs! Besides Meatloaf couldn't appear as moderator so she was the stand-in.Heh heh!
Crowley was a very poor choice as moderator. Sort of like going to the bottom of the barrel because others didn't want to have anything to do with it. It was a foregone conclusion that Crowley would be a helpmate to the Mulatto Kid, after all she's a lib on a lib network. What more do you have to know?
A few days ago Breitbart.com reported (link below) on how Candy Crowley had stepped into the exact same trap when interviewing David Axelrod on her “State of the Union” Show on 9/30. Following that interview, either Crowley pulled the transcript of Obama’s 9/12 rose garden speech or received a copy of it from someone on the Obama team (with a note to bring it with her to the debate?).
I am not trying to defend her actions - she could have said that although Obama used the phrase “acts of terror” in the 9/12 speech in which he also discussed the Benghazi attack, he made no effort to connect the two – but, by interrupting Romney and “settling the issue” of whether Obama said “act(s) of terror” during the 9/12 speech, she may have inadvertently saved Romney from jumping into the trap with both feet.
As it turned out, by drawing so much attention to that speech, the full transcript has come out - allowing anyone with an open mind to realize that Obama was lying. Nowhere in that speech did he identify the Benghazi attack as an act of terror.
My understanding is that Crowley was at the WH last Sunday before the debate. Looks to me like someone told her then or otherwise told her that Obama naturally expected some attacks from Romney on Benghazi and Obama told her to have several transcripts available. I don't think it was conspiratorial, just some coordination that sure should have been made more public and that the Romney campaign should have been informed of the transcripts being present during the debate. Maybe she did inform the Romney campaign. In any case, during the debate it ran letter perfect for Obama and he could even ask Crowley to go to the transcript, and even ask her to repeat it. Gotcha! Or not quite so quick, Mr. Smarty Pants Liar... One problem, he was obviously misrepresenting the transcript contents and got caught and he now after the debate, looks desperate and dishonest for all to see.
What a great concept for a debate! The moderator in cahoots with the incumbent candidate! The aspiring candidate totally out of the loop! It’s an ideal time-saver. No meanspirited bickering and arguing to gum up the works. That’s how things get done The Chicago Way. Just ask Al Capone, whydon’tcha!
If it was a set-up, the set-up BLEW-up in their faces! It has caused all eyes & ears to turn to the Benghazi incident in a way they never wanted. They stupidly thought that it would settle their hot potato once & for all, & everyone would move on. But, instead, it opened a Pandora's box they can't shut.
Now even the talk shows & alphabet news networks are having to cover this story. Talk about an exploding cigar! They have built their own gallows. Thank you God, for allowing them to hang themselves with their own cheating bias!
Wow. Obama looked RIGHT AT and nodded his head at Kerry Latka and said hello Mr. Kerry to him and then caught himself and pretended to look all around the room and then PRETENDED to not remember his name. Check out the 1.07.17 mark.
The whole exchange was a set-up. Its obvious. Look at Obama's demeanor, his "Proceed, Governor" remark, then his telling Candy to say it louder. All very rehearsed.
He might think that this sort of hairsplitting settles things, but it doesn't. The people watching saw it for what it was. Playing lawlerly games with the use of the word terrorism looks exactly like what it is, and people don't have patience for that kind of stuff.
As #70 said, Obama may have thought that would settle the matter. Instead, everyone is paying more attention to the whole Benghazi incident, along with knowing that he and Crowley colluded.
#61 - CNN said of their overwhelmingly positive comments on Crowley's performance, the question most raised was about the transcript. I posted it here twice. They said she had it with her because she had selected the questions herself, and needed transcripts to refresh her memory and to refer to, if needed, during the Town Hall debate. But why did both of them refer to that particular transcript, which had nothing to do with the question of why were the ambassador's requests for aid denied?
#68 - Crowley and Obama should no way have met and discussed the questions to be discussed, since Crowley chose the questions, herself. Did Obama help her select the ones that worked to his advantage? Any discussion between the two of them would be an extreme case of 'conflict of interest' and is probably against the rules of the Town Hall-style debate. However, Crowley changed the rules to suit herself. Now we know why.
Candy Cowlike met obama at the White House or at least was at the White House withing the week prior to the debate. She was subject overplaying her probably-longed-for time in the political arena spotlight--A career or portfolio booster.
I think she at least told him she would have the transcripts and info for the questions and I wouldn't put it past her to have given him the questions.
Inserting herself into the debate was a gift to all of us who hate the media bias as a threat to democracy. Who knows, if it continues we might have a socialist in th eWhite House who gives a cabinet position to an avowed Communist and is so sure of media cover that doesn't even hesitate on many unprecedented actions or inactions. s/
That Romney recovered the double shock blow o and C landed is the good part. He will be able to handle Putin and China and Iran, IMO. And will have a think tank to help him and I bet he puts aside old animosities to do so. An extraordinary man, and Veep and recovery in sight. God willing.
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