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Obama went aggressive –
and looked offensive

Telegraph [UK], by Janet Daley

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 10/17/2012 5:08:26 AM

So he decided to make up for being too passive last time. That was predictable enough. In fact, everybody and his wife was predicting that Barack Obama would go on the offence for this one and that's exactly what he did. But there is an important difference between between being on the offensive and being offensive which his advisers seemed to have missed. Time and again, he interrupted both Romney and the chairman. He may not have sniggered and laughed out loud but there was definitely an air of the Joe Biden playbook here. It was a messier debate all

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Good one by Ms. Daley, who was out with her remarks almost as soon as the debate was at its end.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kurto, 10/17/2012 5:48:48 AM     (No. 8939158)

0bama attacked like Rambo. But, with no ammo he was about as effective as Barney Fife. He seemed to have seen the questions in advance. He even needed CPR from the 'moderator' and didn't fool anyone with the same old lies we've heard for the last four years.

Romney clearly won the debate. He held his composure, and took the tag team attack in stride. He threw 0bama a few bombs, made his points, and did not give up any ground.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: country boy, 10/17/2012 6:24:27 AM     (No. 8939201)

I thought obama's constant lying was disgraceful. Especially the one about drilling permits on federal land, easily debunked.

When these "pundits" grade debates, they should take points off for mendacious behaviour like this. Nobody would want their child to lie like this. Who wants a lying POTUS?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: u2phile, 10/17/2012 6:30:05 AM     (No. 8939209)

We win every debate each time our candidates remind Americans what the hard ecomomic truths are. The Lightbringer and his ilk want noone to hear that truth, at any costs, so we win because both Romney and Ryan have been relentless on bringing up the 800 lb gorilla that is our current existance.



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Reply 4 - Posted by: Janjan, 10/17/2012 7:39:07 AM     (No. 8939307)

Obama is incompetent and a liar. About 2% of the voters (according to polls) are calling themselves undecided. These are low information voters, obviously, and I am tired of the media catering to them like they matter. Unless you are a kool aid drinking liberal moonbat you can't possibly be undecided about this election and that will become clear on November 6.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: mikeh251, 10/17/2012 7:53:52 AM     (No. 8939339)

I agree, there are no undecided voters. If there are. they have no business voting.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99, 10/17/2012 7:55:25 AM     (No. 8939346)

Having read some of the replies below the article, I'm certainly glad that Brits can't vote in our elections. You'd think that, given the mess socialism has made in their country, they'd have a clue. As usual, government handouts trump reality and common sense.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: LZK, 10/17/2012 8:00:44 AM     (No. 8939366)

obama went aggressive -- but -- he looked obnoxious....

President Romney looked in control -- with exception when crowley tackled him from the side/lines.

Remember when stephanopolous (sp?) helped obama when obama called himself a muslim? Ole steph blurred out "Christian" quickly....

WE know what WE get when the media is in control....

LZK

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Reply 8 - Posted by: nonsense, 10/17/2012 8:27:54 AM     (No. 8939428)

I watched on and off, and finally muted the sound when the One spoke. Judging by his gestures I assumed he went into professorial mode which is so booooring.

He does not look well. Was the American electorate provided with his most recent health report? I know I say medical reports on Romney and Ryan, but none on O. Does he not have to comply with federal election mandates? Something is seriously wrong with this man's health. I do not think he is physically capable of being the Leader of the Free World. So depressing that we have a yellow Obama press that will not investigate a matter that is this crucial to the safety of our country.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 10/17/2012 8:29:35 AM     (No. 8939431)

#6, they sound like visitors from the Guardian. Not all Britons are socialists. Perhaps you haven't noticed the right-leaning law-changes Cameron and his coalition government have been making lately.

Note: it's a coalition with the Lib-Dems. Thirteen years of straight Labour is a bit difficult to dig out. You see what a time we are having digging out Obama. after only four years

To see what real socialists are like, I recommend DemocraticUnderground.com. Their debate remarks today will be edifying. And they can vote in our elections.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: reilly, 10/17/2012 8:35:33 AM     (No. 8939446)


Barry's Il Duce pose was grating.


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Reply 11 - Posted by: saucy, 10/17/2012 8:43:35 AM     (No. 8939469)

The juxtaposition of Obama's radiant smile and his dark, piercing, evil eyes was really revealing.
He is desperate and on the ropes - Axe knows it.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: snowcloud, 10/17/2012 8:46:46 AM     (No. 8939483)

#10, It IS grating, isn't it? I also can't stand the constant whistles on his Ss.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: stryker714, 10/17/2012 9:23:22 AM     (No. 8939596)

Right #11. Call it intuition, ESP or eye-analysis-you are correct. His look is one of panic and anger the election is this close. He looks so evil, like there is no level he won't stoop to, nothing he won't put Americans through, to have his way. He's akin to the German soldier in "Saving Private Ryan"-inserting the dagger, yet in his version, telling us all to smile while he twists.

Obama is an ideologue-made his bed. His mission reminds of the old Floyd song, "Set the controls for the heart of the sun". That's what he has done, with his flawed theories and still thinks he deserves another term! ha! Don't think so.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: fed-up, 10/17/2012 9:26:14 AM     (No. 8939606)

Am I the only one that thought Romney made a mistake to ask Obama questions directly? It invited his lies and took away his time. At that point, it was clear Crowly wasnt going to let Romney get to his point. Many times the interruptions only proved to help Obama.

And I agree, if you can possibly still be undecided, you haven't been paying attention and you should stay home!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: wtm, 10/17/2012 9:28:59 AM     (No. 8939613)

He somehow seemed a lot more able to flow with his thoughts......which is not him !!!

Wondering, if they had found someway of providing him a teleprompter or earphone to feed him things ?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Razorgirl, 10/17/2012 9:31:16 AM     (No. 8939623)

Did anyone besides me notice how "whinny" Obama sounded? When pressed his voice would go into a higher pitch. I kept expecting him to cover his ears and stomp his foot. I really wanted someone to ask him if he has ever balanced a checkbook or mowed his own lawn.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 10/17/2012 9:32:46 AM     (No. 8939630)

o's rebuttals were stylistically effective, but he couldn't defend his record, as Romney bullet-pointed him to an agonizing death. If Romney's favorables are +8, as Gallup claims, and women are warming to him, 0 is toast.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Arby, 10/17/2012 9:43:26 AM     (No. 8939653)

Fauxbama looked like an angry college sophomore; Mitt was the adult. Enough already with this experiment in high-level affirmative action. It ain't workin', folks.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: guybee, 10/17/2012 9:47:23 AM     (No. 8939667)

The adults are finally getting noticed. It is about time.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: steph_gray, 10/17/2012 9:52:36 AM     (No. 8939684)

What struck me were the constant halts in the serpent's speech, as if he were indeed listening to some ear prompting.

And what is this business of Crowley's visiting the WH last Sunday? Is there a record? Breitbarters need to get on that story!

Despite all this, our admirable future President Mitt Romney won it going away.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/17/2012 10:01:35 AM     (No. 8939715)

Janet Daley is one of the smarter people in the world, so this concise evaluation carries a lot of weight. She represents an educated, sophisticated mind and clear thinking. A clear eye.

Perhaps the most telling remark that Romney made was that the President was "great as a speaker" – that his vision for America was fine but that his policies did not work. There is the nub of it: what has been wrong with the Obama presidency is that it has been all rhetoric and very little effectual action. And what action there has been – on Obamacare – will discourage job creation and slow the the growth of the economy. The Republican contender only needed a draw to maintain his momentum but he got a win. Round two to Romney.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: AppleAnnie, 10/17/2012 10:09:16 AM     (No. 8939746)

A town hall meeting with a New York crowd at a Long Island university. Oh, brother!

Obama came across as a nasty piece of work, dark and angry and lying like a pro. Same old, same old class warfare and empty promises. Scored well with DU types.

Romney related very well to those who asked questions and presented himself as pro-American, pro-business and very able to tackle our problems. He scored well with women and college crowd, I think.

Crowley's (never heard it pronounced crow-lee before) partisanship was obvious. She interrupted Romney a couple of times just as he was scoring major points. Her backup of Rose Garden terror word was waaaay over the line. During this Rose Garden back and forth Obama's ''Proceed Governor.'' with hate in his eyes was just plain obnoxious.

There are rumbles that Obama is planning a major strike in North Africa. He's placed special operations strike forces on standby. Fasten your seat belts.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 10/17/2012 10:11:23 AM     (No. 8939756)

Romney was terrific , as usual.
His calm demeanor and mastery of all subjects reminded me of Reagan , one time he even sounded like him.
Obama on the other hand seemed to yell his answers
in an upper octave whine
that I feared would make the dog bark.
My wife had some neighbor ladies over to work on a project.
I had the tv on alternating between the game and the debate.
The women observed that Obama has mean eyes that fit his mean personality.
One woman was fixated on his " creepy, ET hands ".
Americans are busy and most of them don't have time to watch the news or keep up with political events.
Debates expose them to actual candidates , not the caricatures created by the media .
I think for some of these women , it was their first real exposure to both Romney and Obama.
I was unsure of some of their political persuasions prior to last night, but, they left our house repulsed by the anger
and behavior of Obama ( as one observed-he acts like he hasn't been president for the last 4 years )
and reassured by the presidential character of Romney.
Romney also looked macho and strong and I really liked that he
got tough with the cry baby.
Crowley was awful , simply awful.
She would not allow Romney to finish his points-getting another moronic question from the idiots was more important than
allowing a future president to explain his plans.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: tgoggin, 10/17/2012 10:11:49 AM     (No. 8939761)

A passionate liberal bordering on socialist friend is switching to Romney after last night's debate..may have legs

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Reply 25 - Posted by: ww2daughter, 10/17/2012 10:23:26 AM     (No. 8939792)

To #15's comments: Was it me or did I see an earbud in "Jug Ears" right ear???? I mentioned it to my husband, but he dismissed it by saying that he could not be "coached" on these questions and that because he is the POTUS he needs to be in "contact" with security. Can we get pix of last night's debate by Breitbart's crew to see if I am right on my assumtion???

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Reply 26 - Posted by: ww2daughter, 10/17/2012 10:26:45 AM     (No. 8939805)

Sorry for the double post: I meant to say "assumption".
To #15's comments: Was it me or did I see an earbud in "Jug Ears" right ear???? I mentioned it to my husband, but he dismissed it by saying that he could not be "coached" on these questions and that because he is the POTUS he needs to be in "contact" with security. Can we get pix of last night's debate by Breitbart's crew to see if I am right on my assumption???

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Reply 27 - Posted by: ivehadit, 10/17/2012 10:27:04 AM     (No. 8939808)

Obama was nauseating. Do you know why? Because lying is a boundary violation and it makes one sick... nauseated.

Romney prosecuted his case last night like an expert lawyer. I like him even more today and I suspect the crowds at his stops today will be louder and larger than ever.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Skeptical1, 10/17/2012 10:38:57 AM     (No. 8939850)

One thing we saw last night is that Romney can be an alpha male. He established right out of the chute that he was not going to be bullied by Obama. That's something that I had my doubts about during the primaries.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ivehadit, 10/17/2012 10:43:49 AM     (No. 8939867)

Just heard Lanny Davis on Fox. The polling must be bad for obama's negative performance and favorability because now Lanny is trying to smear Romney with obama's actions! Ruh roh!

Not happening, Lanny! Obama already established himself as sullen and nasty and the public heard more of the same last night.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: caddyjak, 10/17/2012 10:44:07 AM     (No. 8939868)

Am I the only one who wants to know just where the hell that 10 inch scar on Obama's head came from. I would also like to see the report on Biden's two brain operations.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/17/2012 10:49:52 AM     (No. 8939890)

Do Not Forget

The lens you view colors your opinion

To 47% of the whatever it is that votes - this was the performance they've been waiting for. They're cheering!!

Think about that.

And troll some sites you would not normaly go near. See for yourself.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: dman, 10/17/2012 11:04:47 AM     (No. 8939949)

As NerØbama rendered his "performance", all I could envision was a hologram of Joe Biden hovering over his head - like that of Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Star Wars trilogy: "Use force, Barry. Use force."

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Reply 33 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 10/17/2012 11:05:07 AM     (No. 8939950)

I agree with others here, it seemed like Øbama have have been "prompted" by something this time. He wasn't stammering like he usually does when he doesn't have his teleprompter in front of him. Some kind of super-secret earpiece or new kind of eye-display that we can't see? We can all imagine Axlegrease fitting him with something to make it easier to cheat during the debate. I also agree that Øbama's voice sounded higher-pitched and squeaky. I thought he was buzzing from maybe 5 or 10 cups of coffee or maybe something illegal given to him by Axlegrease. He looks sickly lately.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: oriton, 10/17/2012 11:51:35 AM     (No. 8940081)

obama keeps referring to Romney and his policies as if he, obama, is the challenger and Romney has been president the last four years. His side keeps insisting that Romney give details, yet we have no specifics from them on what they plan to do the next 4 years. We assume that obit will continue to destroy America, but most of his voters, the idiot class, don't know that. Those precious undecideds don't know and even they don't ask. obit has abandoned hope and change for Romney's specifics. If he can't give specifics, you must give me four mo' years.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: lylacat, 10/17/2012 11:51:37 AM     (No. 8940082)

I was happy to see the Luntz focus groups see all the wonderful potential in Romney after the debate; most of them voted for 0bama were sorely disappointed in him. Unlike the owners of "0bama phones," all these people who possess these FREE phones used them to Tweet they want to kill Romney, because they might lose their Food Stamps and Free Phones. How sick has this society become?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: stealthy, 10/17/2012 11:52:54 AM     (No. 8940087)

I couldn't take it and muted him. hard to score points with people if they've tuned you out.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: lana720, 10/17/2012 12:00:14 PM     (No. 8940111)

I saw real anger and hate in his eyes for Romney a couple of times. zippy's few attempts to be animated were so thin and baseless to the particular moment of the debate.

He cannot hold his own against Romney with his lack of a record.

Romney had the stage presence and the facts. zippy was trying to defend a windmill of an administration - empty air, empty suit, empty chair.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: strike3, 10/17/2012 12:06:18 PM     (No. 8940128)

Barry Obama is nothing more than an angry black man who thinks he got a raw deal from the world of whitey and is fixated only on revenge. He hasn't been able to hide that side of himself for the past year when his many illegal actions and failures started to catch up with him.

He is of low quality lineage and his friends and companions are of like character (or lack thereof.) What a hateful, nasty human being. I hope the liberals are over their social experimentation for a while but that would be like flies getting over cowpies.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: worstnightmare, 10/17/2012 12:07:28 PM     (No. 8940131)

Those who are so anxious to increase taxes on the wealthy would do well to remember that yes, high taxes and socialism can make the rich poorer.....but the poor get poorer, too.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 10/17/2012 12:16:16 PM     (No. 8940158)

According to some the prezzy won the debate but romney won 65-30 percent on the economy. The 800 pound gorilla in the room

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Adam, 10/17/2012 2:59:00 PM     (No. 8940578)

I love that Miss Daley called Crowley, "the chairman." Not that she is wrong, "chairman" is genderless. (just a fact of etymology, look it up if you don't believe me) But feminists like Crowley are ignorant and don't realize that, so I am amused that Miss Daley called Ms. Crowley "chairman." Cool.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/17/2012 4:44:08 PM     (No. 8940809)

Bottom line, as the old Marine in the Frank Luntz focus group on Fox New Channel said last night following the debate, "Obama has been bullsh-ting the American people".

Obviously from the polls and the focus groups immediate responses following the debate, Obama's bullsh-iting is now catching up to him.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: M Stuart, 10/17/2012 5:47:28 PM     (No. 8940919)

For those who are marveling about his lucidity, it is not odd to me. When a junkie gets a fix, he is on top of the world and talking like a fiend.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/17/2012 6:03:09 PM     (No. 8940941)

Tag team is the right image. Romney alone.
The Imposter partners with the so called host, can't call that one a hostess just on her ad manners alone. Mitt did okay considering two rehearsed against one.
I was sure enough a two to one tag team.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: safesword, 10/17/2012 7:17:00 PM     (No. 8941039)

i watched 30 seconds of it...i cant stand otard's voice or face...but any way...the part i saw was this....romney talking points,otard interrupting..and romney with "i am speaking,you will get your turn"..and you know who he sounded like? every father in the world who has to correct his child...this one more points to more people than we know...every father has had to do this to his children..or am i wrong?..i see this one statement as checkmate!!

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Reply 46 - Posted by: safesword, 10/17/2012 7:19:41 PM     (No. 8941043)

duh...won more points,not one more points...carry on...

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/17/2012 8:04:27 PM     (No. 8941091)

Dog eat dog.

Wacky Baracky's usual canine-consuming style.

He's in Deep Doo Doo now.

Bring the Bio-Degradable Baggie for cleanup.
Buh-Bye!

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/17/2012 9:10:35 PM     (No. 8941165)

Obie tried Bite Me's approach and it didn't work. Made Obie look more like the community organizer he is.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/17/2012 11:20:16 PM     (No. 8941341)

#43, Interesting that you would mention that line. Obama once told a reporter "I actually believe my own bullsh*t."

Luckily, we don't believe it.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: danu, 10/18/2012 12:01:29 AM     (No. 8941386)

Caaaaandyyyyyyyy

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Daily Mail [UK], by Joshua Gardner    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/16/2014 1:05:29 PM     Post Reply
The Internal Revenue Service is considering a bold move to label perks like free lunch given to workers by companies as taxable. The agency wonders if freebies like haircuts and gym memberships are a way to compensate the highly skilled rather than just a way to jumpstart productivity. After all, argue proponents of such a tax, workers at Silicon Valley firms like Google and Facebook receive free meals from famously fancy in-house eateries every day. Some companies even go a step further by offering freebies like haircuts, car services, and child care. Typical workaday folks can expect to pay for all



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After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

Analysis: Obama Celebrates
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Again Declares Debate ´Over´

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
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Students Demand Acknowledgement of
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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Michelle Obama Riverdances
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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
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Pelosi assists in Holy Week
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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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